Trump: All NATO countries should spend 5% of GDP on defence, except US

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/06/21/7518091/

by Orcasystems99

39 comments

  2. who cares what he says? it’s all bluster, dementia, and lies.

  3. Trump is sucking Putin’s knob which kinda defies the NATO charter. Why should anyone listen to this compromised fool?

  4. And spend all that money with US def industry from whom he’ll be expecting significant sized brown envelopes.

  6. We will do it in, let’s say, 2 weeks. Would that be good TACO?
    Also, we will be spending it at European defence contractors. Do you mind?

  7. He wants Europe to buy up US defense products. Yes, it’s probably not a bad idea….but he doesn’t care about the possibility of conflict, this is just a favor to other rich people.

  9. As the Perun YouTube post on this subject suggested- If all NATO countries spent 5% they would be spending considerably more than the US in total.

    Fox News would be in meltdown if that happened. Overnight Europe would become the biggest world threat to US dominance and the Republicans would be screaming about it and demanding an alliance with China!

  10. He repeats Putin’s wishes and then doesn’t know what he said 10 minutes later.

  11. I mean on the face of it doesn’t really seem that unreasonable. For many years NATO countries have spent far less than 2% of the supposed commitment required. So yeah it makes sense that they would have to spend an additional percentage for some period of time in order to “catch up.” although he still a complete idiot when he’s referencing Canada getting by for free, which is complete nonsense.

  12. IIRC, under NATO rules, certain infrastructure updates can also be included in the “defence spending”, such as strengthening bridges, building put rail capacity, dual-use airports etc.

  14. He is just straight up thick isn’t he. For such an amazing country the US really have made themselves look completely dumb. For such a macho country they’ve been completely defeated in the misinformation war

  17. He’s saying this because so many countries in NATO were going to meet the previous 3% target. He’s pathologically unable to say nice things so he has to raise the bar. once they balk, he can again claim they are “fleecing America”. What a TACO.

  18. There is legitinate justification to the idea that othet NATO members need to spend more than the US due to scale, unless they reorganize into a common shared organization. A lot of NATO funding is “wasted” in covering duplicative headquarters, command and control, logistical, and support functions to create the necessary tail for the “tooth” to function at an individual national level. That translates to very small and compact combat forces that are smaller than what the amount of spending would suggest.

    The smart way of handling this would be to say that all NATO members need to spend x% on defined capabilities that contribute directly to mission readiness, excluding the duplicative and redundant elements. It then becomes contongent on members to determine for themselves how much they are willing to spend on the backbone needed to operate independent of NATO partners vs leveraging shared resource for coalition ops.

  19. I get this is an anti-trump sub but we can’t disagree that all NATO members need to pay their fair fucking share.

  20. The GDP of non-US NATO countries combined is roughly the same as U.S. GDP. In 2024, non-U.S. NATO spending reached $485B. U.S. GDP in 2024 was $29T. The U.S. defense budget in 2024 was $883B. So, not quite double non-US NATO spending. To jump to 5% of total GDP, THE U.S. would have to spend another $700B on defense. Given all the ships, subs, aircraft, etc. we have, i don’t even know what we could spend that much money on.

    But beyond that, leaders don’t ask others to do what they themselves won’t do.

  21. Lets make the european armies ready to battle every army of the world. Including Russia, China AND USA.

  22. Who would Canada need to defend itself from, realistically?

  24. I would think most of europe would want to do this to counter russian aggression anyways.

  25. First it was 2%, now Krasnov says its 5%. The ever moving goalposts of a tyrant looking to tear apart the most powerful military partnership in the history. Wonder what other sound bite his handlers will be providing him.

  26. How about all countries stop the Sabre rattling and learn how to get along. If all countries spent the money they currently spend on defense on solving the world’s problems this world might just survive.

    How we are behaving is stupid and sustainable.

  27. Let’s try and be balanced here.

    The USA has spent 3~5% of its GDP on the military since, basically forever at this point. NATO nations are SUPPOSED to spend at least 2% each.

    Until around 2012 only the USA and UK had kept spending on military at or above 2% of their GDP.

    For those other nations to catch up they’re going to need to invest heavily, 5% is a modest number that would enable them to play catch-up after riding on the USA coattails for decades.

  28. If Europe had been meeting the nato goal all along we wouldn’t be in this place

  29. He is right that all countries should spend more money. However America should not forget that NATO came to their aid in 2001. Although other countries spend less than the USA, the USA has been one of the largest recipients of NATO military support due to the war on terror.

  30. I’m shocked, shocked I tell you to discover that the goalposts keep moving so that Trump can make up a reason to be anti-NATO.

  31. You can just say ”he’s a moron” and billions of people know who you are talking about

  33. Except the US? What’s the deal with the trillion dollar military budget?

  35. Canada should spend 5%, but not on a single American weapon.

  37. I think everyone should look at these fairly detailed stats ( [https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2024/6/pdf/240617-def-exp-2024-en.pdf](https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2024/6/pdf/240617-def-exp-2024-en.pdf) ) showing breakdowns of which NATO countries actually had met the minimum 2% and the rate of incline. In 2014, NATO Heads of State and Government agreed to commit 2% of their national Gross Domestic Product (GDP) to defense spending, to help ensure the Alliance’s continued military readiness. Most countries should be embarrassed. Trump was right years ago about NATO countries not meeting the minimums.

    I understand the proposal is actually 5% – Specifically, this proposal, reportedly from NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte, suggests setting a new, higher target of **5% of GDP for defense spending**. This 5% would be divided as follows: 

    * **3.5% of GDP** allocated to “core” defense capabilities and equipment budgets.
    * **1.5% of GDP** ringfenced for additional security investments like infrastructure and cybersecurity

    Many can hate on Trump but his words regarding NATO have been true. Hopefully NATO is getting their shit together now and there are two people responsible for that… Trump & Putin.

    “I think what you’re going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It’s one thing if it’s a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do.” – Joe Biden. This literally was a green light for Putin to invade and everyone with a brain knows it. Russia would not have invaded Ukraine if Trump was president… only with weak-ass Obama & Biden as the “facts of history” show.

  38. Yeah, they don’t give a shit what he says. 5% is way too high. It should be higher but not that high

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