Ha shouldn’t have voted Brexit stupid Brits! ….wait a second
Accor made a profit of €464m in 2019 and a loss of €1.99bn in 2020.
When times are good they can afford to, but governments have screwed the hospitality industry during covid so not surprising they are unwilling to pay more after those losses.
But not so desperate that they’ll raise wages?
People dont want to slave away their life for shit wages.
Just think about how to automate hotel industry. Budget travelers won’t mind if rooms are cleaned by robots or with help of robots.
“__If I have to pay more, will that be sufficient? No. Am I capable of doing that? No. That’s the problem__.”
__Bazin urged the government to lower social charges on new hires to help the sector return to full activity__.
Well if the government lowered the social charges who would benefit?
It just sounds like the industry is using staff shortage as an excuse to stop paying their fair share of social charges.
Hotel wages tend to low, hours horrible and not exactly the first choice if your not one of the prestige or higher up roles. Those are rather rare.
The staff who keep everything running are not exactly taking in the cash.
I had an on an off job in a hotel before covid – at a nice wage.
But it’s been super unstable since covid started, opening and closing all the time. That’s why I quit. Not really usefull as a job when it closed 5 months 🙂 It was good for me, I found something else to do.
Also, just really weird & strange people was even travelling.
Frankly France should face the reality of the cheap labor boom and arguably brexit has shown what happens when the reality hits and what you to solve the problem
It seems Europe is not any different to the US.
Well, there goes a significant portion of the ground my anti-american comments stood on, thanks france.
Oh, yea, and part of my soul, too.
Why has Brexit done this!?
Must be hard to pay staff well. Let’s have a quick look at the company accounts:
>Annual fixed compensation, which takes into account
the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer’s experience
and responsibilities as well as market practices.
For fiscal 2021, **Sébastien Bazin will receive gross annual
fixed compensation of €950,000**
Now he did reduce his income by 25% that went to charity (tax write off in UK – not sure about France).
>For 2021, the annual **variable compensation** will represent
between 0% and 150% of a gross reference amount set
at €1,250,000, equivalent to between 0% and 197% of his
annual fixed compensation. If his variable compensation
reaches 100% of the reference amount, this will represent
**132% of his annual fixed compensation.**
That’s what happens when you leave the EU….oh, wait….
Its incredible how suddenly this subreddit loses interest in a “staff shortage” topic when it’s not about the U.K., and how the few people commenting suddenly understand it’s not a staff shortage but a wage shortage.
Who can explain this magical turn of events…? Replace “French” with “British” in the title and this topic would be at 1000+ posts and all of them talking about leopards eating faces, and sarcastic comments about “Oh no who could have ever foreseen this!”.
It’s the same everywhere, it seems. Hotel owners have been beating the same drum in Cyprus for a few years now.
They don’t ask for reductions in social contributions, because taxation is already extremely low in Cyprus (so, indeed, French hoteliers are lying when they are saying that they are struggling because employment costs are high), and they are not even asking for a lowering of the minimum wage because Cyprus doesn’t -yet- have a minimum wage and industry collective agreements aren’t enforced (so, it’s not true that high minimum wage levels cause unemployment).
In absence of all those excuses, they are just saying that Cypriots think that service industry jobs are beneath them (“they are lazy” argument), that social safety nets are too generous (“welfare mentality” argument), and that they should be allowed to employ more third-country nationals instead because they are more hard-working.
Bullshit of course, the reason they are asking for that is that Cyprus’ stupid work visas are basically modern slavery visas (complete with bosses keeping their employees passports in a safe, so that they don’t run away). Foreign workers are legally barred from unionising and striking, they cannot easily switch workplaces without invalidating their visas and risking deportation, and above all: part of their salary can be paid in “room and board”. The hotelier can stuff 8 foreign workers in a hotel room, feed them leftovers from the hotel restaurant, and voilà, they get away with paying them 350 EUR per month.
If we fix our exploitative immigration law, they will move to asking for prisoners being forced to work in hotels and they will present themselves as heroes for doing it.
Oh how I wish the Cypriot hotel industry collapses in the next few years. They are more immoral than even our banks, and our banks are into some nasty shit themselves.
So, French workers, make the hotel bosses suffer too. Withhold your labour until they pay a fair price, and don’t let them create legal avenues for them to exploit people who can’t do the same.
Are hotel profit margins really so slim they can’t afford to pay their staff more?
How about paying the staff more you rich fucks?
Because no one wants to be payed 1200e for a very tiring job, raise the wages
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There is no labor shortage.
Ha shouldn’t have voted Brexit stupid Brits! ….wait a second
Accor made a profit of €464m in 2019 and a loss of €1.99bn in 2020.
When times are good they can afford to, but governments have screwed the hospitality industry during covid so not surprising they are unwilling to pay more after those losses.
But not so desperate that they’ll raise wages?
People dont want to slave away their life for shit wages.
Just think about how to automate hotel industry. Budget travelers won’t mind if rooms are cleaned by robots or with help of robots.
“__If I have to pay more, will that be sufficient? No. Am I capable of doing that? No. That’s the problem__.”
__Bazin urged the government to lower social charges on new hires to help the sector return to full activity__.
Well if the government lowered the social charges who would benefit?
It just sounds like the industry is using staff shortage as an excuse to stop paying their fair share of social charges.
Hotel wages tend to low, hours horrible and not exactly the first choice if your not one of the prestige or higher up roles. Those are rather rare.
The staff who keep everything running are not exactly taking in the cash.
I had an on an off job in a hotel before covid – at a nice wage.
But it’s been super unstable since covid started, opening and closing all the time. That’s why I quit. Not really usefull as a job when it closed 5 months 🙂 It was good for me, I found something else to do.
Also, just really weird & strange people was even travelling.
Frankly France should face the reality of the cheap labor boom and arguably brexit has shown what happens when the reality hits and what you to solve the problem
It seems Europe is not any different to the US.
Well, there goes a significant portion of the ground my anti-american comments stood on, thanks france.
Oh, yea, and part of my soul, too.
Why has Brexit done this!?
Must be hard to pay staff well. Let’s have a quick look at the company accounts:
>Annual fixed compensation, which takes into account
the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer’s experience
and responsibilities as well as market practices.
For fiscal 2021, **Sébastien Bazin will receive gross annual
fixed compensation of €950,000**
Now he did reduce his income by 25% that went to charity (tax write off in UK – not sure about France).
>For 2021, the annual **variable compensation** will represent
between 0% and 150% of a gross reference amount set
at €1,250,000, equivalent to between 0% and 197% of his
annual fixed compensation. If his variable compensation
reaches 100% of the reference amount, this will represent
**132% of his annual fixed compensation.**
Top of page 2.
https://group.accor.com/-/media/Corporate/Group/PDF-for-pages/Gouvernance/Politique-de-remuneration/Compensation_policy_applicable_to_Executive_Officers_in_2021.pdf
That’s what happens when you leave the EU….oh, wait….
Its incredible how suddenly this subreddit loses interest in a “staff shortage” topic when it’s not about the U.K., and how the few people commenting suddenly understand it’s not a staff shortage but a wage shortage.
Who can explain this magical turn of events…? Replace “French” with “British” in the title and this topic would be at 1000+ posts and all of them talking about leopards eating faces, and sarcastic comments about “Oh no who could have ever foreseen this!”.
It’s the same everywhere, it seems. Hotel owners have been beating the same drum in Cyprus for a few years now.
They don’t ask for reductions in social contributions, because taxation is already extremely low in Cyprus (so, indeed, French hoteliers are lying when they are saying that they are struggling because employment costs are high), and they are not even asking for a lowering of the minimum wage because Cyprus doesn’t -yet- have a minimum wage and industry collective agreements aren’t enforced (so, it’s not true that high minimum wage levels cause unemployment).
In absence of all those excuses, they are just saying that Cypriots think that service industry jobs are beneath them (“they are lazy” argument), that social safety nets are too generous (“welfare mentality” argument), and that they should be allowed to employ more third-country nationals instead because they are more hard-working.
Bullshit of course, the reason they are asking for that is that Cyprus’ stupid work visas are basically modern slavery visas (complete with bosses keeping their employees passports in a safe, so that they don’t run away). Foreign workers are legally barred from unionising and striking, they cannot easily switch workplaces without invalidating their visas and risking deportation, and above all: part of their salary can be paid in “room and board”. The hotelier can stuff 8 foreign workers in a hotel room, feed them leftovers from the hotel restaurant, and voilà, they get away with paying them 350 EUR per month.
If we fix our exploitative immigration law, they will move to asking for prisoners being forced to work in hotels and they will present themselves as heroes for doing it.
Oh how I wish the Cypriot hotel industry collapses in the next few years. They are more immoral than even our banks, and our banks are into some nasty shit themselves.
So, French workers, make the hotel bosses suffer too. Withhold your labour until they pay a fair price, and don’t let them create legal avenues for them to exploit people who can’t do the same.
Are hotel profit margins really so slim they can’t afford to pay their staff more?
How about paying the staff more you rich fucks?
Because no one wants to be payed 1200e for a very tiring job, raise the wages