> The Department for Health and Social Care responded to this proposed solution by saying: “The regulations allow businesses to provide menus without calorie information at the request of the customer.”
So if you don’t want to see the information, you don’t have to. But that’s no reason to stop anyone else from seeing it.
Almost everything you can buy in a supermarket has calorie counts on it (except for alcohol), and people manage to survive that.
Moral of the story, you can’t do right for doing wrong.
Very oversimplified descriptions of the three most common EDs there.
The biggest problem is that they will be bollocks that lead to less fresh food.
Because chefs aren’t measuring every teaspoon .
The objections to this seem to scraping the barrel. You could cure cancer and someone would find a complaint.
The main problem for me is that I will always go for the most calories for the money.
Nothing. There’s no problem with it.
Suggesting that the overwhelming majority of people be denied this information to spare the feelings of a tiny minority of those with ED is bonkers.
Absolutely nothing.
There’s a silly argument over people with eating disorders but if you think someone with an eating disorder hasn’t already worked out what the calorie content of a restaurant meal is… you’re wrong.
Restaurants, with more than 250 staff must print how many calories are in meals, some like Wetherspoons pubs already do.
People with these sorts of ED’s tend to know how many calories are in food anyway so get triggered regardless.
Also, how do they do grocery shopping?
> Prof Ranote adds that calories on menus can be incredibly triggering for people with both anorexia and bulimia, who may search for lower calorie foods, but on the flipside could lead to people with binge eating disorder finding higher calorie items “to trigger guilt and shame”.
How is this person a professor?
Sometimes changes to the status quo are actually good, even if the smallest of minorities don’t like them.
If they did Carb counts I and many other insulin dependent diabetics would love that.
I hate seeing the calories on the menu as I have an unhealthy relationship with food (focusing way too much on it some days and then bingeing on others), but generally I think this is a good idea.
I don’t necessarily like the idea of folk with eating disorders having to ‘out’ themselves by asking for a specific menu though, when going out to eat is hard enough as it is in that situation. But not sure there’s an alternative that everyone would be happy with. Also not convinced it will do much to curb obesity, but it’s worth a go.
I have anorexia so seeing this would definitely make a restaurant trip much more distressing. But then again it’s not as if I enjoy going to restaurants anyway so it probably won’t make much difference. I think it will be ok for restaurants too- can’t imagine eating disorder people are exactly the kind of customers they want!
At the end of the day, most people do not care in the slightest how it affects people with eating disorders, and why should they? They find it laughable and ridiculous to be honest. Fortunately there has been a real show of understanding, empathy and solidarity *within* the recovery community. So we will just support each other, even if seems stupid to most.
There’s no such thing as having access to too much information.
The problem is that it means small businessmen have to put in extra work for no extra profit and they hate that idea. Everything else is a fabrication by the same lobby, designed to get civil libertarians and conspiracy theorists wound up to try to stop it happening.
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> The Department for Health and Social Care responded to this proposed solution by saying: “The regulations allow businesses to provide menus without calorie information at the request of the customer.”
So if you don’t want to see the information, you don’t have to. But that’s no reason to stop anyone else from seeing it.
Almost everything you can buy in a supermarket has calorie counts on it (except for alcohol), and people manage to survive that.
Moral of the story, you can’t do right for doing wrong.
Very oversimplified descriptions of the three most common EDs there.
The biggest problem is that they will be bollocks that lead to less fresh food.
Because chefs aren’t measuring every teaspoon .
The objections to this seem to scraping the barrel. You could cure cancer and someone would find a complaint.
The main problem for me is that I will always go for the most calories for the money.
Nothing. There’s no problem with it.
Suggesting that the overwhelming majority of people be denied this information to spare the feelings of a tiny minority of those with ED is bonkers.
Absolutely nothing.
There’s a silly argument over people with eating disorders but if you think someone with an eating disorder hasn’t already worked out what the calorie content of a restaurant meal is… you’re wrong.
Restaurants, with more than 250 staff must print how many calories are in meals, some like Wetherspoons pubs already do.
People with these sorts of ED’s tend to know how many calories are in food anyway so get triggered regardless.
Also, how do they do grocery shopping?
> Prof Ranote adds that calories on menus can be incredibly triggering for people with both anorexia and bulimia, who may search for lower calorie foods, but on the flipside could lead to people with binge eating disorder finding higher calorie items “to trigger guilt and shame”.
How is this person a professor?
Sometimes changes to the status quo are actually good, even if the smallest of minorities don’t like them.
If they did Carb counts I and many other insulin dependent diabetics would love that.
I hate seeing the calories on the menu as I have an unhealthy relationship with food (focusing way too much on it some days and then bingeing on others), but generally I think this is a good idea.
I don’t necessarily like the idea of folk with eating disorders having to ‘out’ themselves by asking for a specific menu though, when going out to eat is hard enough as it is in that situation. But not sure there’s an alternative that everyone would be happy with. Also not convinced it will do much to curb obesity, but it’s worth a go.
I have anorexia so seeing this would definitely make a restaurant trip much more distressing. But then again it’s not as if I enjoy going to restaurants anyway so it probably won’t make much difference. I think it will be ok for restaurants too- can’t imagine eating disorder people are exactly the kind of customers they want!
At the end of the day, most people do not care in the slightest how it affects people with eating disorders, and why should they? They find it laughable and ridiculous to be honest. Fortunately there has been a real show of understanding, empathy and solidarity *within* the recovery community. So we will just support each other, even if seems stupid to most.
There’s no such thing as having access to too much information.
The problem is that it means small businessmen have to put in extra work for no extra profit and they hate that idea. Everything else is a fabrication by the same lobby, designed to get civil libertarians and conspiracy theorists wound up to try to stop it happening.