Every 10th person you apss being unemployed it crazy. How do you afford anything, Spain isn’t that cheap iirc.
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Rookie numbers, compared to 2010-2020.
Lets be fair this is skewed by a massive black market in the south
Quite good progress considering.
Why a bar graph? What was the reasoning for choosing that among the many ways of showing a timeline, with awide range of beauty and clarity?
And still the 4th biggest economy in the EU..
Spain is notorious for its black market jobs though, with actual unemployment (that is, including people working in unregistered, illegal employment) being much lower than the official figures.
How can they afford that? I’m guessing these people get benefits?
Seems like you left out the interesting years (after the financial crisis), which disproportionally impacted Spain. Would be nice to see that!
Spain’s economy is actually doing quite well. One of the fastest growing in the EU.
And the only jobs being created nowadays are low-paying temporary jobs (tourism, hospitality, construction) that new migrants take in overwhelming numbers. The job market in Spain is cooked, it simply doesn’t work, if you want a job you better have acquaintances that can do you a favor; everything works through nepotism.
Decreasing the tourism industry will help.
“Trabajar en negro” is the name of the game.
Also “vivir de las rentas”
Yeah but Spain is probably less cheating at number compared to other countries.
France is making it worse and worse each years for unemployed people. You miss a meeting or a status update? Congratulations, you lose all your rights and don’t count anymore in unemployment rates.
So sure the unemployment is lower, but the real number of people without a job is WAY higher than the official number.
why you do not show it from 2008 onwards
I’m afraid this numbers are heavily influenced by big unregulated markets. Just out of my mind waiters are usually hired half of the time at best. Same for cleaning service hotels and farm workers.
Also depends what eurostat consider for unemployed person (students, migrants?). But is not realistic to think that the country is actually running with that unemployment rate even considering the benefits that you could potentially have because they are 2 years max in most cases.
Yet we are still getting hundreds of thousands of immigrants from South America every year.
can someone answer why that is in a maximum of 10 words so my small brain understands?
A decade ago Spain had a 22% unemployment rate??? That’s insane
Didn’t it tip 25% at one point during COVID?
One of nine people in Spain is looking for a job but doesn’t have one? That’s insane.
There’s nothing beautiful about this at all
The youth unemployment rate for people under 25 in Spain remains chronically high at 26%.
You should add years on the x axis for easier reading
Why don’t more Spanish people emigrate to EU countries with lower unemployment?
This number is not right actually. This government has included a lot of laws that manipulate the data, the real number is around 18%
Bit weird to cut it at 2021, when the numbers only make sense if we see the peak unemployment rate of 26% in 2012.
Spain has rigid labor laws where hiring and firing inefficient workers are almost impossible, thus Spaniards aged 25-44 opt to work in the black market or emigrate to wealthier European countries like Germany.
Just imagine how Spain would fare if it were to adopt the American-style at-will employment laws.
You never heard of stereotypes?
can’t wait for it to be reposted on r/2westerneurope4u with the caption ‘espana numero uno!’
And that 10% is false as hell.
The government has been “tweaking” the employment metrics for a long time now
The real value could be a 5% or 10% more easily.
10.9%? ojalá!
If you trust those figures then I am writing to you from the Microsoft. I want you to go and buy some gift cards for me.
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Every 10th person you apss being unemployed it crazy. How do you afford anything, Spain isn’t that cheap iirc.
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Rookie numbers, compared to 2010-2020.
Lets be fair this is skewed by a massive black market in the south
Quite good progress considering.
Why a bar graph? What was the reasoning for choosing that among the many ways of showing a timeline, with awide range of beauty and clarity?
And still the 4th biggest economy in the EU..
Spain is notorious for its black market jobs though, with actual unemployment (that is, including people working in unregistered, illegal employment) being much lower than the official figures.
How can they afford that? I’m guessing these people get benefits?
Seems like you left out the interesting years (after the financial crisis), which disproportionally impacted Spain. Would be nice to see that!
Spain’s economy is actually doing quite well. One of the fastest growing in the EU.
And the only jobs being created nowadays are low-paying temporary jobs (tourism, hospitality, construction) that new migrants take in overwhelming numbers. The job market in Spain is cooked, it simply doesn’t work, if you want a job you better have acquaintances that can do you a favor; everything works through nepotism.
Decreasing the tourism industry will help.
“Trabajar en negro” is the name of the game.
Also “vivir de las rentas”
Yeah but Spain is probably less cheating at number compared to other countries.
France is making it worse and worse each years for unemployed people. You miss a meeting or a status update? Congratulations, you lose all your rights and don’t count anymore in unemployment rates.
So sure the unemployment is lower, but the real number of people without a job is WAY higher than the official number.
why you do not show it from 2008 onwards
I’m afraid this numbers are heavily influenced by big unregulated markets. Just out of my mind waiters are usually hired half of the time at best. Same for cleaning service hotels and farm workers.
Also depends what eurostat consider for unemployed person (students, migrants?). But is not realistic to think that the country is actually running with that unemployment rate even considering the benefits that you could potentially have because they are 2 years max in most cases.
Yet we are still getting hundreds of thousands of immigrants from South America every year.
can someone answer why that is in a maximum of 10 words so my small brain understands?
A decade ago Spain had a 22% unemployment rate??? That’s insane
Didn’t it tip 25% at one point during COVID?
One of nine people in Spain is looking for a job but doesn’t have one? That’s insane.
There’s nothing beautiful about this at all
The youth unemployment rate for people under 25 in Spain remains chronically high at 26%.
[Instituto Nacional de Estadística](https://www.ine.es/ss/Satellite?L=es_ES&c=INESeccion_C&cid=1259925463174&p=%5C&pagename=ProductosYServicios%2FPYSLayout¶m1=PYSDetalle¶m3)
You should add years on the x axis for easier reading
Why don’t more Spanish people emigrate to EU countries with lower unemployment?
This number is not right actually. This government has included a lot of laws that manipulate the data, the real number is around 18%
Bit weird to cut it at 2021, when the numbers only make sense if we see the peak unemployment rate of 26% in 2012.
Spain has rigid labor laws where hiring and firing inefficient workers are almost impossible, thus Spaniards aged 25-44 opt to work in the black market or emigrate to wealthier European countries like Germany.
Just imagine how Spain would fare if it were to adopt the American-style at-will employment laws.
You never heard of stereotypes?
can’t wait for it to be reposted on r/2westerneurope4u with the caption ‘espana numero uno!’
And that 10% is false as hell.
The government has been “tweaking” the employment metrics for a long time now
The real value could be a 5% or 10% more easily.
10.9%? ojalá!
If you trust those figures then I am writing to you from the Microsoft. I want you to go and buy some gift cards for me.
In case anyone is interested in more data
https://preview.redd.it/65y7i1xm9h9f1.png?width=1637&format=png&auto=webp&s=415d2926f2b5389ed3f7f297121564b74f356a25
There’s the fact that our subprimes crisis lasted until into the 2010s.
Should start creating army jobs. NATO will approve…
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