Opinion: Stop defending Brexit fantasy and start telling the truth

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1. Most of humanity could only ever dream of living in Europe, meanwhile the UK does so why be such dicks about things? What has the EU done to the UK ever except bend over backwards?

2. I haven’t met a single person defending Brexit in the last couple of years. Seems pretty much a consensus that this was a debacle.

3. There is one thing the poster doesn’t understand – Labor isn’t announcing their intent to rejoin partially because they know they would be denied. Having UK back would be great in many ways, but they can’t be let back in before there is a general consensus across their society on rejoining and commiting to federalisation. Nobody wants more decades of UK blocking any meaningful progress. And given what a shitshow UK politics are right now, these requirements are not even close to being fulfilled. We are simply better just being friends for now.

4. Tories and avoiding responsibility, name a more iconic duo. I’m counting the days until the Daily Mail start to blame Labour for screwing a very successful Brexit.

5. Since the UK actually voted to leave, IMO, they’re too stupid to let back in. Maybe if they agree to adopt the euro, they should be allowed back.

6. Just flew back from Portugal. The passport control has a 45minute queue of sunburnt gammon complaining that it was “absolutely ridiculous” and why couldn’t Faro airport put more staff on.🤦🏾

   WE LITERALLY VOTED FOR THIS (as a country not me personally)

7. What was the reason for Brexit? Without hyperbole and vague gripes. what were some of the expected concrete results of Brexit?

8. What are the comments in this thread even referring to? Did any of you read the article? It’s a piece in Farmers Weekly and yet you’re all talking about re-entry, a single line at the end of the article. Comments about the Tories when the author explictly calls out Labour’s new farmer policies:

   > Labour doesn’t need to say it hates farmers. Its fiscal plans speak clearly enough

   > > The Tories built Brexit. Labour whipped it. Now Labour owns it — and shows no intention of reversing course.

   It’s also an opinion piece from the director of what seems to be a small Lincolnshire farm. Any opportunity to have a Brexit circlejerk it seems.

9. 53% of farmers said they voted for brexit and similar would again 18 months after the referendum.

   https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/farmer-support-brexit-strong-ever-fw-poll-reveals

   Just to point out there is no push for another referendum in UK. 29% think there should definitely be a referendum in the next 5 years, **13% didn’t know** and 23% thought definitely not. If 13% of a population don’t give enough of a shit to have an opinion on if it should be a vote, it’s not gaining traction. Even if you add in the people that thought there probably should be a vote in the next 5 years and you get a total of 51%.

   I can seeing the EU being excited of having the UK as a member with those kind of stats, 51% are okay with holding a new vote about is few should remain or leave.

   I suspect the apathy of UK voters would be dwarfed by an EU poll in terms of giving no fucks about the issue.

10. It’s falling into there own trap of the British politeness to not name the things what they really are.

11. Is the endless shitting on the UK and Brexit from our media not enough? Shall we start lopping off digits and supplicate?

    Farming in Europe is suffering, inside the UK and outside, half of French farmers will retire in the next 5 years with the majority not having anyone to take over. In 1970 there were 1.6 million farms in France, now around 400,000. British farmers are worried about competing with the world as if the EU hasn’t signed the Mercosur trade agreement and European farmers aren’t doing the same? Look at the farming protests in basically every single eu country, the lifting of tariffs from Ukrainian imports (yes it’s a good thing), rising fuel prices, the green deal, CAP reform – don’t mistake a general shitshow for all European farming with ‘ohh Brexit dun it’.

    In 2022 the UK agri industry saw higher growth than the EU, largely price-driven, in 2024 the EU saw higher growth after suffering a larger dip in growth the previous year. Both face challenges but until we understand that it’s not one issue, like Brexit, that causes these complex problems but about 30 concurrent issues, we won’t make rational decisions to fix it. European politicians, uk & eu need to stop selling out Europeans to international/foreign corporations and realise that these marginal initial gains lead to long-term shortfall and insecurity – just like it has with defense.

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