There has been a media war against the public in Australia, the UK and the USA by Murdoch for decades. This isn’t new.
The entire media wages psychological warfare on the public and has done since the beginning of time.
They play it as 10mins or less yet the met says an hour or more lol
There’s a fb page called back boris that I’ve spent a fair bit of time lurking on. Most of the stuff posted recently there has more or less parroted the mails headlines here . It’s only got 42k members but it does make me wonder how big of a percentage of this country genuinely hold this exact same view.
Ahh yes, because there is absolutely zero precedent for changes of government and prime minister during war time.
Except the two most significant wars of the modern era of course.
Asquith was replaced by Lloyd George in 1916 during WW1, and Chamberlain oversaw the first year of WW2 only to be replaced by Churchill in November 1940 – neither of these were general elections.
We changed prime minister 3 times during the Malayan Emergency.
Once during the Korean War – which we were involved in – but this was during the Malayan Emergency.
Not to mention going through 7 prime ministers during the troubles – although whether you consider this to be a war is up for debate – it was definitely an armed conflict.
And of course, the resignation of Blair and rise of Gordon Brown during the Iraq War, and our ongoing “special military operation” in Iraq and Syria against ISIS having seen 3 Conservative prime ministers – Cameron, May, and Johnson.
Tell us again about how a war has any bearing on whether we should get rid of the criminally incompetent government we have?
Ok so the BBC is biased against everyone. That seems fine. The interviewers are *supposed* to ask important people the questions that are on all our minds. If you’re a Boris backer you probably do want someone to ask whether 9 minutes at a party matters. The answer from the interviewee is the one that matters.
Backed by a fuck ton of Russian bot farms and a fuck ton of their money, at least that might dry up a bit now.
Every news outlet, and I do mean *every* news outlet, is propaganda. Yes even that one. Yes even Byline Times.
The state of news media in the UK is why we need stronger media analysis skills because that’s how you combat it’s effectiveness.
For people who weren’t actually in attendance, they sure do proclaim to know a lot of fine details about exaclty what happened.
Where on earth did this 9 minutes tuppawares story come from?
It’s always been this way. Especially from reactionary media like the DM.
Boris was on the ropes a few months ago around this partygate scandal, with even the DM starting to join in on the criticism, but they’ve seen an opportunity to raise him up again. They’ll stick by their man.
I can only cling on to the idea that the vast majority of the British public saw that headline for the pathetic, arse-licking, offensive dirge that it is. Boris’s approval rating has tanked, so I hope this tanks sales of The Mail too, whose readers are mostly older and have surely had to deal with, funerals, hospitals, and GPs through that time, and are exactly the kinds of people the Tories were trying to reach with their “Blitz spirit” inspired messaging. Surely they’re going to find it more offensive than anyone.
A lot of people do not even read passed the opening paragraph of an article, which is why headlines have become so provocative and outlandish in recent times. People want to be told how to feel or to have their beliefs validated as soon as possible and over-the-top headlines help with that.
That argument is completely invalidated by Nevil Chamberlain resigning during the second world war, it’s ridiculous
So, a lot of posts here seem to be focused on Tory ‘propaganda’ and the Murdoch press.
It cuts all ways.
– You think ethnic minorities have had a voice until recently?
– What about Christians on Netflix or in films, pretty villified ey?
– Culturally conservative voices, do they get a look in on the BBC?
– Are there any Trans people on mainstream TV? Many disabled people?
– How many working class voices are there?
– How many Brexit comedians are there?
– How many socialists or actual communists get a voice?
Honestly, the mainstream voice is usually right-on, upper middle class liberals. The Cathy Newman’s and Mishal Hussein’s of this world, Justin Webb and John Snow’s of the world. They run the polling companies, media companies and film companies.
Yeh Murdoch has a place, but that’s increasingly irrelevant.
9 minutes 90 minutes bottom line is he broke the rules those same rules he made for us to follow.
Johnson knowingly broke the law and then lied to the house of commons in a lame attempt to cover up his law breaking.
If Johnson weren’t so corrupt he would have resigned. If the Tory party weren’t so spineless, they would have kicked Johnson out of office months ago.
I do think at some point we will need to come to terms with this new media landscape. Preferably by regulating. It kind of feels right now like some groups with right-leaning views have figured out the right series of psychological buttons to press in key demographic groups that they can spin reality *any* way they want, regardless of facts, simple logic, common sense, and often common decency. I am quite concerned that we seem to be riding on a wave of right-wing populism driven by what seems to be a deliberately induced low-level psychosis that I think will be stuck with many of these people long after the political cycle is over. And its quite upsetting to think there are groups out there in the world who see nothing wrong with inflicting that on a society-wide level just so they could win a cheap vote or two…
Didn’t know we had declared war on Russia, best get to the bunkers
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There has been a media war against the public in Australia, the UK and the USA by Murdoch for decades. This isn’t new.
The entire media wages psychological warfare on the public and has done since the beginning of time.
They play it as 10mins or less yet the met says an hour or more lol
There’s a fb page called back boris that I’ve spent a fair bit of time lurking on. Most of the stuff posted recently there has more or less parroted the mails headlines here . It’s only got 42k members but it does make me wonder how big of a percentage of this country genuinely hold this exact same view.
Ahh yes, because there is absolutely zero precedent for changes of government and prime minister during war time.
Except the two most significant wars of the modern era of course.
Asquith was replaced by Lloyd George in 1916 during WW1, and Chamberlain oversaw the first year of WW2 only to be replaced by Churchill in November 1940 – neither of these were general elections.
We changed prime minister 3 times during the Malayan Emergency.
Once during the Korean War – which we were involved in – but this was during the Malayan Emergency.
Not to mention going through 7 prime ministers during the troubles – although whether you consider this to be a war is up for debate – it was definitely an armed conflict.
And of course, the resignation of Blair and rise of Gordon Brown during the Iraq War, and our ongoing “special military operation” in Iraq and Syria against ISIS having seen 3 Conservative prime ministers – Cameron, May, and Johnson.
Tell us again about how a war has any bearing on whether we should get rid of the criminally incompetent government we have?
Ok so the BBC is biased against everyone. That seems fine. The interviewers are *supposed* to ask important people the questions that are on all our minds. If you’re a Boris backer you probably do want someone to ask whether 9 minutes at a party matters. The answer from the interviewee is the one that matters.
Backed by a fuck ton of Russian bot farms and a fuck ton of their money, at least that might dry up a bit now.
Every news outlet, and I do mean *every* news outlet, is propaganda. Yes even that one. Yes even Byline Times.
The state of news media in the UK is why we need stronger media analysis skills because that’s how you combat it’s effectiveness.
For people who weren’t actually in attendance, they sure do proclaim to know a lot of fine details about exaclty what happened.
Where on earth did this 9 minutes tuppawares story come from?
It’s always been this way. Especially from reactionary media like the DM.
Boris was on the ropes a few months ago around this partygate scandal, with even the DM starting to join in on the criticism, but they’ve seen an opportunity to raise him up again. They’ll stick by their man.
I can only cling on to the idea that the vast majority of the British public saw that headline for the pathetic, arse-licking, offensive dirge that it is. Boris’s approval rating has tanked, so I hope this tanks sales of The Mail too, whose readers are mostly older and have surely had to deal with, funerals, hospitals, and GPs through that time, and are exactly the kinds of people the Tories were trying to reach with their “Blitz spirit” inspired messaging. Surely they’re going to find it more offensive than anyone.
A lot of people do not even read passed the opening paragraph of an article, which is why headlines have become so provocative and outlandish in recent times. People want to be told how to feel or to have their beliefs validated as soon as possible and over-the-top headlines help with that.
That argument is completely invalidated by Nevil Chamberlain resigning during the second world war, it’s ridiculous
So, a lot of posts here seem to be focused on Tory ‘propaganda’ and the Murdoch press.
It cuts all ways.
– You think ethnic minorities have had a voice until recently?
– What about Christians on Netflix or in films, pretty villified ey?
– Culturally conservative voices, do they get a look in on the BBC?
– Are there any Trans people on mainstream TV? Many disabled people?
– How many working class voices are there?
– How many Brexit comedians are there?
– How many socialists or actual communists get a voice?
Honestly, the mainstream voice is usually right-on, upper middle class liberals. The Cathy Newman’s and Mishal Hussein’s of this world, Justin Webb and John Snow’s of the world. They run the polling companies, media companies and film companies.
Yeh Murdoch has a place, but that’s increasingly irrelevant.
9 minutes 90 minutes bottom line is he broke the rules those same rules he made for us to follow.
Johnson knowingly broke the law and then lied to the house of commons in a lame attempt to cover up his law breaking.
If Johnson weren’t so corrupt he would have resigned. If the Tory party weren’t so spineless, they would have kicked Johnson out of office months ago.
I do think at some point we will need to come to terms with this new media landscape. Preferably by regulating. It kind of feels right now like some groups with right-leaning views have figured out the right series of psychological buttons to press in key demographic groups that they can spin reality *any* way they want, regardless of facts, simple logic, common sense, and often common decency. I am quite concerned that we seem to be riding on a wave of right-wing populism driven by what seems to be a deliberately induced low-level psychosis that I think will be stuck with many of these people long after the political cycle is over. And its quite upsetting to think there are groups out there in the world who see nothing wrong with inflicting that on a society-wide level just so they could win a cheap vote or two…
Didn’t know we had declared war on Russia, best get to the bunkers