Sweden bans AR-15 as hunting rifle after school shooting – all rifles to be turned in and sent to Ukraine

https://svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/uppgifter-tidopartierna-overens-om-ny-vapenlagstiftning-ar15-forbjuds-vid-jakt

by Helmer-Bryd

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  1. > The government and the Swedish Social Democratic Party have agreed on some changes to gun legislation. After the mass murder in Örebro, they wanted to change the gun laws and ban the semi-automatic weapon AR-15, which was not used during the shooting.

    > Other semi-automatic weapons will continue to be allowed for hunting.

    Absolutely stupid law. So they’re banning the AR-15 for hunting, not other 5.56 rifles, and not semi-automatic rifles, just AR-15. And they’re banning because of a shooting in which it hasn’t been used.

  2. What are they supposed to do with AR-15s in Ukraine?

    Edit: people don’t seem to realize the AR-15 is neither a weapon of war, nor is it in a caliber commonly used by the Ukrainian army

  3. That will do absolutely nothing. You can easily use any other semi automatic weapon for school shooting, it does not need to be specific pattern or caliber. This is just some politician who has no idea what they are doing trying to do something and banning scary military stuff.

    But for national defense and training, legitimate use case, it does help that it is specific pattern and caliber.

    >AR-15, which was not used during the shooting.

    This PROVES how their ban does nothing.

  4. FYI, the shooter didn’t use one I don’t even think he used 5.56

  5. It’s not just AR15s, but AR15s are mentioned as an example of a semi automatic rifle that can not be realistically prevented from being compatible with large capacity magazines.

    Which makes sense imho. The AR15 is a design where you can easily modify or 3D print a lower receiver, which means you can easily modify trigger group or magazine well.

  6. Swedish sport shooter here. I watched the entire press conf. yesterday.

    It’s worth noting that the shooter in Örebro brought with him a Browning BAR Long Track in .30-06, a Ruger 10/22, and a pump action shotgun. Though all shots except 1 was fired through the Browning.

    There was a rumor the day of the shooting that an AR-15 was used, and the politicans thought they had to do something quickly, thus an immediate call for banning AR-15 for hunting.

    Then just a few hours after that the police releases info about what guns was used and an AR wasn’t one of them.

    But at that point the politicians can’t just go back on their word because that would make them look weak with people who don’t really care about guns (the vast majority of Swedes).

    Thus, we’re now in a place where guns that were not used by the shooter will not be legal for hunting anymore, while the gun he used, will very likely still be legal.

    It’s worth noting that in Sweden (like many other Nordic countries) we have a separate license per gun, instead of you as a person having a gun license (like in Poland for example). The license states the purpose of the gun (e.g. hunting, sport, collection). You can hunt **and** do sports with a gun on a hunting license, but you can only do sports with a gun on sport. (And yes, even if the gun model is legal for hunting, if the license says sport, it’s a crime to use it for hunting).

    Sport shooting takes a lot more time to get into, in Sweden, than hunting. My collection is basically on a sport shooter license so right now I won’t be affected much by it. [https://imgur.com/mina-sportredskap-skyttesport-EBmLwix](https://imgur.com/mina-sportredskap-skyttesport-EBmLwix)

    I still think it’s a weird legal precedent to set, that you can approve of something then take it back just like that.

    Though it’s worth noting that this is more or less just a government suggestion. It still needs to pass a legal review and parliament. It’s possible that they say that already approved licenses will stay approved and the government can’t force anyone to sell them.

    EDIT: Pic of the shooter’s primary rifle here [https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/orebro/rickard-anderssons-omgivning-visste-inte-att-han-hade-vapen](https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/orebro/rickard-anderssons-omgivning-visste-inte-att-han-hade-vapen)

  7. 5.56 mm is a bad hunting cartridge either way. Thats just a “we’re helping” law.

  8. So shooting kids with any other gun, that performs literally the same, is okay. Good to know.
    This it what happens when they make laws driven by the irrational fear. This doesnt change anything AT ALL, except putting minds of people, uneducated on this topic, at ease. Only if they had knowledge about things they make laws about.
    Another swedish government L, but its just another one in the loooong list.

  9. L gun legislation, in Norway we did the same thing banning lots of semi-auto rifles for hunting a few years back and I thought Sweden did it better, guess they’re not immune to symbolic politics and politicians going after what is essentially a non-issue that only harms law-abiding citizens because no one dares speak up

  10. I think the system was perfectly fine before this. This just sets some strange precedent. Not all 5.56 rifles are banned, only the AR-15, which wasn’t even used by the shooter. The shooter used a pump action shotgun.

  11. I understand he didn’t actually use an AR. so pretty weird that is the gun they are banning, but imo it’s not really the most necessary hunting rifle.

    I was going to say that a bolt 06 is plenty, then I read that is actually what he used, so idk my point anymore lol.

    Mental health care should be a high priority for every nation.

  12. Interesting! So it IS possible to try to fight against school shootings. So weird that one side of the Atlantic gives a shit, the other is 100% AOK with child murder. So ODD

  13. Arbitrary idiotic law. A weapon isn’t more dangerous because it looks tactical. Anyone who disagree is flat out wrong.

  14. So the next time some looney drives a Volvo truck into a crowd, we should ban Audi SUVs.

    Not all SUVs, not the trucks that was used in an attack. Just specifically 1 type of SUV. But feel free to obtain a bigger or faster, or heavier one from any other company. Or go get a special permit to get an Audi SUV.

    This makes no sense, if the translated article is accurate.

  15. Why would Ukraine want AR-15s, compared to real assault rifles?

  16. Where’s the Simpsons slapping the back of the head meme

  17. “Freedom” – stealing property of people because of a rumor that turned out to be false, and instead make the guns actual killing machines in an active war. another win for personal freedom, democracy and western values!

    fuckass brainwashed western “democracists”, just admit you only pretend to care about freedom and democracy

  18. Civil people should not have semi-auto weapons. There is another forms of entertainment then playing delta force.

  19. What a way to marginalize gun owners. Politicians can’t solve the underlying problems. So they do what looks good since they know the majority of people won’t be personally effected. Ban all guns, people will either smuggle them in or use whatever they had available. 

  20. I’d like to remind everyone that while theres MASSIVE differences in availability of guns between EU countries, theres barely any differences in violent crime between EU countries. Restricting guns any harder than now is just a policy red herring that does nothing in practice.

    We have tons of guns per capita (including piles of privately owned AR-15’s) in Finland and they aren’t a problem any more than they are in countries where there are barely any guns per capita.

  21. Note to America, this is how easy it is to properly regulate guns. Zero tolerance when something horrific happens.

  22. Will this apply to the elites and their minions (the military and police)? Or just regular peasants?

  23. I like it although this would never happen in the USA or if it did, riots would break out

  24. Interesting. Would America be in board if they’re guns will be sent to israel?

    They can get like a certificate back “your gun was used to kill _ Muslims, aged: _, _, _”.

  25. 50,000 MAGA dudes in the US just bought 3 additional AR-15s each to “own liberal Sweden”.

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