China’s foreign minister tells EU that Beijing cannot afford Russia to lose in Ukraine, media reports

https://kyivindependent.com/chinas-foreign-minister-tells-eu-that-beijing-cannot-afford-russian-loss-in-ukraine-media-reports-6-2025/

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  1. Could Bejing have lived in a world in which Russia did not try to invade Ukraine? I think they could. And that is good. Because that is the world Ukraine and NATO are fighting to restore. China will have to adjust their “wrong thinking” and live with the consequences of Russian failure.

  2. What a load of crap; however, I totally get what he is saying. What makes U.S. feared in the international arena is their (the U.S. military/Pentagon and many in congress) ability to chew gum and walk at the same time and now, they have to do it strategically from within it’s borders (because Trump is plum loco and no one can say for 100% accuracy what he will do). McCain (R.I.P.) left his seeds unto congress and most, not all, but most distrust both countries. However, that does not mean neither has had success at stealing military information and God knows what Musk has when he was roaming free through DC unchecked by government agencies. Musk has worked with Russia and against Ukraine in the recent past.

    “**China’s continued economic and diplomatic support for Russia enables the latter to sustain its war of aggression in Ukraine.** This war undermines the principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity that underpin global stability, threatens the United States’ NATO allies, and risks drawing the United States into a military confrontation in Europe..” [https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-china-russia-relationship-and-threats-to-vital-us-interests/](https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-china-russia-relationship-and-threats-to-vital-us-interests/)

  3. Maybe because it would be a successful demonstration of the small independent nation standing up to being annexed by a larger regional power hungry leader?

    Would make taking Taiwan a little less tolerable for the world.

  4. That’s unfortunate because the entire world cannot afford for Ukraine to lose.

    And obviously China can afford Russia losing. It’s a minor inconvenience compared to what will happen if this war results in spoils for Russia. It will be the start of a new century of death and destruction as we give up all the tenuous gains towards peace we’ve made in the past hundred years.

  5. The CCP’s existence relies on keeping authoritarian regimes around the world from collapsing it has domino effect that it will affect the CCP regime later on this is why China supported Assad’s regime in Syria until its ultimate demise.

  6. Humanity doesn’t stand a chance. Good luck to the octopi in the next round of intelligent evolution. May you figure your shit out where we couldn’t.

  8. So what? People are in over their head with things they cannot afford all the time. Welcome to reality.

  9. F*CK the CCP, a bunch of thieving crooks. The IRGC will collapse, then Moscow followed by the CCP. The CCP is NOT China.

  10. No one with their head screwed on is surpised. I pity my fellow Europeans who think this dicatorship is/could be our friend.

    This hostile regime can go f itself.

  11. They support Russians from the start, look at their propaganda.

  12. Strange, cause I would have thought Europe would have more to lose from losing Ukraine as a buffer against Russia vs China that just winds up with an ally having egg on their face (after initiating an illegal/unprovoked invasion).

    Europe (and the West) cannot afford Ukraine losing.

    China can afford Russia losing. Because losing on their end simply amounts to ending the war and returning troops home.

  13. “No-limits Partners” before the war and “Moderates” officially.

  14. “China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi reportedly told the EU’s top diplomat Kaja Kallas on July 3 that the country cannot afford for Russia to lose the war in Ukraine amid fears the U.S. would shift focus towards Beijing”

    So he’s full of shit. The US is always focused on Beijing.

  15. China will have to suck it up because Russia is losing. Their economy is collapsing and they are having shortages of weapons, vehicles and soldiers. China should be boycotted for supporting Russia.

  16. The longer the war goes on in Russia the more it serves Chinas interests, from observing the wests weapons to degrading the Russian state not only their military. China is no ally of Russia they have territorial claims to large portions of eastern Russia as well as a long and distrustful history with them … it also serves to deflect attention from their military build up for their inevitable invasion of Taiwan .

  17. Took you long enough to say the quiet part out loud.

  18. If Russia loses. All the attention goes to China as the evil empire. Right now they are not as evil so we keep buying stuff and trading with them. If they become the most evil. Well their economy collapses as the world shifts away.

  19. A russian collapse would mean NATO + the west would focus on China. It’s a no brainer that Russia losing would be bad for China. Only an idiot Chinese statesman would want Russia to lose.

  21. Read the words. “Cannot afford to lose” instead of advising them to stop

  22. Hear that Donald? If you want to dominate China (and I know you like to dominate) then make sure Ukraine wins. You’ll dominate Russia at the same time.

  24. So they need the distraction as it’s very convenient because of “reasons” and by hinting at it they are drawing said attention to themselves, also for “reasons”. Then this just might mean that they need it to go on for much longer as they have not finished their shenanigans.

    Or, they are telling the US that they are okay with the strange orange man stopping all support for Ukraine because they need the USA to look weak by being unreliable so they can grow more powerful.

    Or they need the Russians to win because they need the boost that Russian gas and oil can bring when the world will hit the Chinese with all sorts of bans after they have taken over Taiwan.

    Or they do not want the Russians to win but cannot say so out loud. So they are using these messages to increase support for Ukraine by triggering the orange weirdo in charge with a perfectly silly statement to provoke him by telling him what they need so he will make sure they will not get what they want and give the Ukraine more weapons.

  25. What they are saying is they don’t want a US Ally replacing the antagonistic current Russian government, which *will* happen.

    When it does they will have a border with the US basically.

  26. Evidently Europe must then in turn start supporting the US in terms of Taiwan, since China insist on threatening Europe by aiding Russia. China and Europe are across the globe from each other, and Europe are fundamentally not interested in the question of Taiwan, but if this is the path that China will choose then so be it.

  27. So Europe has a vested interest in Ukraine winning and Russia losing. China “Cannot afford Russia to lose in Ukraine” – they are on Russia’s side.

    So Russia is China’s proxy.

    So Ukraine is Europe’s proxy.

    Does China want to keep trade and dialogue with EU? Because that really shouldn’t continue in light of the stated foreign policy.

    Is this really what China’s foreign minister is telling us about China’s foreign Policy? Because this, therefore looks a lot like a declaration of war against Europe…

  28. So what is the EU gonna do? Wait for its turn to have its union members slowly turn into Russia soil, one by one?

  29. This is so frustrating. RoI on Ukraine aid is so high, almost no matter who is providing it, and yet it’s still penny packeted out.

  30. Not surprising. I’m sure this was all agreed upon between Russia and China back in 2022. China quietly supports Russia taking Ukraine and Russia backs China taking Taiwan. Except it was only supposed to take “3 days”. And both nations were surprised how quickly and forcefully the West responded. It’s made China plan the invasion of Taiwan much more strategically to take the island in a much shorter time period. They wouldn’t survive what Russia is going through in Ukraine and they know it.

  31. They can say that. West surrendered their industries and manufacturing to China and now is on c”opium” needle that it can’t get off economically. It takes decades to rebuild industries and infrastructure for them, it’s hard, and it’s most importantly – profits are small so corporations will not move out of China, not now, not any time soon in years.

    Our leaders will not dear to piss off the markets, especially here in the Europe – we are the biggest losers in this charade.

  32. What are the chances that China is just egging Russia on so they spend too much and their country collapses? Is that just pure hopium?

  33. If china can’t afford to have Russia loose in Ukraine, then we need to send more stuff to Ukraine.

  34. China doesn’t support the war openly out of principle (Russia attacked first), but it isn’t going to abandon a reliable long term partner to placate an unreliable and often hostile EU, especially since China is in the position of strength.

    This is basically China telling EU to go pound sands while maintaining some sort courtesy.

  36. finally went mask off but everyone already knew what was underneath

  38. come on China, if your “one China policy” is actually a big deal, you’d invade Russia and at the very least take vladivostok back.

  39. This is an absolute play on Trumpism and the batshit foreign policy in the US. China is taking advantage of the chaos as would be expected.

  40. Ok but the article doesn’t say that exactly. It more says that China does not want the war to end now, because it is keeping the US’s attention away from Taiwan, which they want soon. But nowhere did it way that they cannot afford Russia to lose period.

  41. It’s obvious China is going for Taiwan and NK will go for south. Now is the best time they can. Our idiot and chef won’t know how to handle it. Keeping Ukraine at war distracts the US.

  42. Well I suppose the US and China had to agree on something *eventually.*

  43. Kyiv independent seems to always exaggerate or misreport news. I would double check everything they report.

    Here they say they are quoting from SCMP. But SCMP reports.

    > Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told the European Union’s top diplomat on Wednesday that Beijing does not want to see a Russian loss in Ukraine because it fears the United States would then shift its whole focus to Beijing, according to several people familiar with the exchange.

    That’s very clearly a different statement to what KI is reporting. What was said is already news-worthy, I don’t see why they needed to exaggerate it.

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