Don’t call it ‘Alligator Alcatraz.’ Call it a concentration camp.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/immigration-alligator-alcatraz-concentration-camp-rcna216874

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  1. It’s. A. Fucking. Concentration. Camp.

    Here’s how we know this: Those being rounded up are NOT being deported right away. They are being held there indefinitely without due process (just like the Nazis did). They are now being required to pay for the costs of the deportation. If they don’t pay it… They become work labor. Where is that affected group representing those that died in the death camps? Where is the fucking outrage? Or is it as long as we sent arms to Israel and drop bombs on Iran give this a pass. What the fuck happened to understanding Nazi history?

  2. We called Guantanamo Bay a concentration camp and it didn’t change anything.

  3. It’s a taxpayer gift to a Florida buddy. Ask yourselves why Republicans needed to raise the national debt by trillions.

  4. >For many Americans, the word “concentration camp” evokes another country, a time long ago and a facility operating in the dark of night, away from the prying eyes of an outraged public. But a new concentration camp opened in Florida’s Everglades this week, and it’s the opposite of a secret.

    But it’s not just a new prison, Alcatraz or otherwise. I visited four continents to write a global history of concentration camps. This facility’s purpose fits the classic model: mass civilian detention without real trials targeting vulnerable groups for political gain based on ethnicity, race, religion or political affiliation rather than for crimes committed. And its existence points to serious dangers ahead for the country.

    >This camp stands apart from other immigration detention facilities for a few reasons. First, its projected capacity of 5,000 beds is several times the average detention center (though Immigration and Customs Enforcement is looking at even larger facilities). Its improvised tents and chain-link cages put detainees on display reminiscent of El Salvador’s CECOT prison. And it is billed as a “temporary” camp, with the theory being that the administration can seamlessly process massive numbers of detainees with rapid-fire judicial hearings by National Guard members-turned-immigration judges. In practice, this is unlikely to go smoothly.

    Some defenders of current immigration policy say that arbitrary detention or abuse of foreigners isn’t like what Hitler did to citizens. Years before he came to power, however, Hitler wrote about his goal of stripping German Jews of legal protections so that they would have no more rights than aliens and could be put into camps.

    >In 1935, at Hitler’s behest, the German Reichstag passed the Nuremberg Laws, a focus of which was to identify German Jews and revoke their citizenship, with countless other regulations restricting them. Dreaming of a pure Aryan nation, the Nazis initially imagined their targets would self-deport. Once the myth of self-deportation collapsed, they turned to more punitive measures.

    >On Tuesday, Noem similarly noted that the Everglades camp was meant to frighten immigrants into self-deporting. “If you don’t,” she said, “you may end up here.”

    >What will happen in the U.S. if the pressure to self-deport fails, as it did nearly a century ago? We’re already seeing aggressive moves against people living in the U.S. legally. The administration is still trying to strip legal status from half a million Haitians who were allowed in before Trump’s return. The DOJ is prioritizing cases involving the possible revocation of citizenship, working to undo birthright citizenship itself and targeting the citizenship of political enemies. The administration wants to define who can be an American in ways that appear profoundly racist, and it seems immigrants are the most politically advantageous large population to target.

    >And there are parallels in U.S. history for these camps as well. Centuries of Indian removal and genocide set the stage for abuse of those not counted as citizens. Lawmakers and courts wielded the weight of law or executive authority to prop up slavery, allowing cross-border trafficking and detention of humans denied rights. Concentration camps holding Japanese Americans during World War II showed the U.S. government was eminently capable of unjust detention of citizens and noncitizens alike. And Trump himself has hailed “Operation Wetback,” a lethal, abuse-filled deportation operation carried out by Dwight D. Eisenhower’s administration that included detention camps.

    >Today in Florida, the U.S. is expanding on its own concentration camp legacy. We’re seeing other clues that police-state tactics are intensifying in America. Masked agents in unmarked cars or without warrants who refuse to show IDs are sweeping people off the street. Some who vanish reemerge; others have been effectively disappeared.

    When people think of concentration camps, they think of more than a million people murdered at Auschwitz. But extermination camps appeared only after nearly a decade of Nazi rule and several evolutions in wartime detention.

  5. let’s call it alligator concentration camp. cause that’s all it will be be good for between floods.

  6. Alligator Auschwitz has a better ring, gets the point across much more heavily and straightforward

  7. Its literally cartoon villain behavior with how blatantly evil it is. No one clapping to feed immigrants given no due process to alligators is ever on the right side of history

  8. Alcatraz was a prison, where convicted inmates served their sentences. Now it is historic tourist site.

    This is Alligator Auschwitz.

  9. Crocodile concentration camp, alligator Auschwitz take your pick because the administration is definitely taking their pick of the population to send there.

  10. What it’s called matters less than why you think it should be called a concentration camp. If someone thinks it’s just another detention center, then they’d most likely think calling it a concentration camp is a gross exaggeration. Keep in mind that when people hear concentration camp, they think gas chambers.

  11. Someone should make Alligator Auschwitz merch and then donate the proceeds to benefit immigrants and refugees.

  12. Call it a waiting room for Elon musk neurochip brain experiments since the big bill authorized some billions to UofMiami just 40 miles away for the project.

  13. That’s what I’m doing. It is a concentration camp.

    It is an abomination and everyone involved in its creation should be the only ones locked up inside it.

  14. Yes please. I’m so sick of reasonable people tacitly agreeing with MAGA freaks on this propagandistic terms they use. These fascists created concentration camps.

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