When you look at portugal this is just objectively the right thing to do.
There’s a massive difference between decriminalisation, allowing medicinal use and full legalisation.
Yeah, Portugal seems to be the way to go. Decriminalise the addict. Sticking some poor chap in jail because he’s addicted helps nobody.
Never going to happen.
Time to decriminalise.
The Kinihans can restructure their criminal empire on selling turf.
I’ll tell ya after a few days on the bog they will be turning themselves in no need for the 5 Million reward..
In order for this to happen you’d need an entire societal shift in opinion, people can’t even allow apartments to be built in their area can’t imagine they’d see the benefits of this.
Decriminalisation is definitely the way to go, outright legalisation would be an absolute nightmare.
Drugs should be legal if alcohol and cigarettes is.
Senator Lynn Ruane has some very good contributions on the subject. Here’s an excerpt from a talk she gave in Jobstown in February:
The reasons for legalization are fair, to have legislative influence on the market and to collect tax from it. However this operates on the presumption that these drugs are not harmful inherently. They ARE.
And before someone brings up alcohol or tobacco, I lump then all in the one. I think it’s crazy that there are such blatantly harmful products out there that are completely normalized. And now people want to add more to that pile?
I would be voting no in a referendum about this if one occurs.
I will not see it, but I hope my children will.
Make cannabis legal and tax it
I remember listening to a radio interview with a doctor talking about how the Swiss legalised heroin for people diagnosed as addicts and it convinced me that it is the way to go. Crime and over doses went down massively as a result.
This article seems to be a fairly decent synopsis:
More chance of getting petrol capped at 1.10 a litre.
Coz when drugs are legal they stop being addictive and there would be no more no social or health or crime problems arising from their use.
It’s about bleedin time.
Don’t let that gobshite Eurovision person make you think legalization means drugs will be available in your local Centra. They hasn’t a clue and are fear mongering on a topic they are incredibly ignorant on. I’ve worked in the NGO sector around drug policy in the past. The definition of legalization when it comes to drugs is fairly well defined by the EMCDDA.
The European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction (EMCDDA) are the leading authority on illicit drugs in the EU and have contributed to EU and national policy on the subject of drugs.
Their definition of legalization is:
*Making an act lawful when previously it was prohibited. In the context of drugs, this usually refers to the removal of all criminal and noncriminal sanctions, although other regulations may limit the extent of the permission.*
We already have strong regulations on the sale of tobacco and alcohol and they get stronger all the time. There is not a hope a newly legalized substance would have anything close to the availability that they currently have.
Typically people creating future policy on drug legalization are looking at frameworks where the access would be strongly regulated based on the potential for harm of the substance. So cannabis might be available from a licenced dispensary, MDMA or cocaine would be available following a consultation with a pharmacist, and heroin or methamphetamine would require meeting a GP and registering with a service through the HSE.
The idea is to completely get rid of the black market. So the notion that only addicts can get access is nuts. Because a first time user going to a doctor and getting all the precautions, access to harm reduction just is so much more likely to have better outcomes than them going to a dealer.
The other aspect no one here is bringing up is the safety of regulated drugs. Being able to know what’s in your drugs is an enormous contributor to people not dying from drug use. Surprisingly.
There are far less dangerous drugs than cigarettes and alcohol. We need to rethink what should be classed as illegal.
Some regulations or laws in this time don’t have any sense. I never smoke or take any drugs in my life (alcohol either) but give freedom to people to choose whatever they want.
Decriminalisation all the way
Well, Ireland has money to do it.
Heck, only in my one hospice I work at, they dump yearly drugs worth 100k e like.
By drugs I mean any prescription tablets u can imagine used when patients coming, and if they going out and have own drugs, leftovers are dump, even if there is only one tablet used from package, not to mention out of date, that could be used too, with little less efficacy, but we’ll, all go to dump…feckin waste everywhere in HSE…
Portugal way is way to go.
Was staying in a BnB in Mings constituency. Lovely old house with lace pattern everywhere and china for the tea.
The woman of the house was maybe 65 and she said that it made absolute sense to legalise drugs.
A powerful Irish woman if ever there was one. If she realised that it needs to be done then surely others can be convinced?
I see it like that
Its sold and taken anyway
Instead of letting them jobless cunts get Rich of addiction
At least pump that money into the country and stop putting ppl fighting addiction in prison
Drugs cause nothing but trouble. To all those quoting Portugal, have you actually lived there ? The quality of life doesn’t match Ireland unless you’re in a tourist area.
What is wrong with people? … is that many of the public now on drugs and trying to support legalisation to get their little fix ?
Weed should be legalised and some others decriminalised. Gangs profit off hurt and vulnerable people who need help ,not be taken advantage of or thrown in prison bc they want to smoke a joint to de stress. Also the tourism it brings in.
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When you look at portugal this is just objectively the right thing to do.
There’s a massive difference between decriminalisation, allowing medicinal use and full legalisation.
Yeah, Portugal seems to be the way to go. Decriminalise the addict. Sticking some poor chap in jail because he’s addicted helps nobody.
Never going to happen.
Time to decriminalise.
The Kinihans can restructure their criminal empire on selling turf.
I’ll tell ya after a few days on the bog they will be turning themselves in no need for the 5 Million reward..
In order for this to happen you’d need an entire societal shift in opinion, people can’t even allow apartments to be built in their area can’t imagine they’d see the benefits of this.
Decriminalisation is definitely the way to go, outright legalisation would be an absolute nightmare.
Drugs should be legal if alcohol and cigarettes is.
Senator Lynn Ruane has some very good contributions on the subject. Here’s an excerpt from a talk she gave in Jobstown in February:
https://twitter.com/CYMDublin/status/1514667158684508160
Another FFG failure.
The reasons for legalization are fair, to have legislative influence on the market and to collect tax from it. However this operates on the presumption that these drugs are not harmful inherently. They ARE.
And before someone brings up alcohol or tobacco, I lump then all in the one. I think it’s crazy that there are such blatantly harmful products out there that are completely normalized. And now people want to add more to that pile?
I would be voting no in a referendum about this if one occurs.
I will not see it, but I hope my children will.
Make cannabis legal and tax it
I remember listening to a radio interview with a doctor talking about how the Swiss legalised heroin for people diagnosed as addicts and it convinced me that it is the way to go. Crime and over doses went down massively as a result.
This article seems to be a fairly decent synopsis:
https://www.northcarolinahealthnews.org/2019/01/28/switzerland-fights-heroin-with-heroin/
“Sure we’d all be getting stoned sure!”
– My 72-year-old dad.
More chance of getting petrol capped at 1.10 a litre.
Coz when drugs are legal they stop being addictive and there would be no more no social or health or crime problems arising from their use.
It’s about bleedin time.
Don’t let that gobshite Eurovision person make you think legalization means drugs will be available in your local Centra. They hasn’t a clue and are fear mongering on a topic they are incredibly ignorant on. I’ve worked in the NGO sector around drug policy in the past. The definition of legalization when it comes to drugs is fairly well defined by the EMCDDA.
The European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction (EMCDDA) are the leading authority on illicit drugs in the EU and have contributed to EU and national policy on the subject of drugs.
Their definition of legalization is:
*Making an act lawful when previously it was prohibited. In the context of drugs, this usually refers to the removal of all criminal and noncriminal sanctions, although other regulations may limit the extent of the permission.*
We already have strong regulations on the sale of tobacco and alcohol and they get stronger all the time. There is not a hope a newly legalized substance would have anything close to the availability that they currently have.
Typically people creating future policy on drug legalization are looking at frameworks where the access would be strongly regulated based on the potential for harm of the substance. So cannabis might be available from a licenced dispensary, MDMA or cocaine would be available following a consultation with a pharmacist, and heroin or methamphetamine would require meeting a GP and registering with a service through the HSE.
The idea is to completely get rid of the black market. So the notion that only addicts can get access is nuts. Because a first time user going to a doctor and getting all the precautions, access to harm reduction just is so much more likely to have better outcomes than them going to a dealer.
The other aspect no one here is bringing up is the safety of regulated drugs. Being able to know what’s in your drugs is an enormous contributor to people not dying from drug use. Surprisingly.
There are far less dangerous drugs than cigarettes and alcohol. We need to rethink what should be classed as illegal.
Some regulations or laws in this time don’t have any sense. I never smoke or take any drugs in my life (alcohol either) but give freedom to people to choose whatever they want.
Decriminalisation all the way
Well, Ireland has money to do it.
Heck, only in my one hospice I work at, they dump yearly drugs worth 100k e like.
By drugs I mean any prescription tablets u can imagine used when patients coming, and if they going out and have own drugs, leftovers are dump, even if there is only one tablet used from package, not to mention out of date, that could be used too, with little less efficacy, but we’ll, all go to dump…feckin waste everywhere in HSE…
Portugal way is way to go.
Was staying in a BnB in Mings constituency. Lovely old house with lace pattern everywhere and china for the tea.
The woman of the house was maybe 65 and she said that it made absolute sense to legalise drugs.
A powerful Irish woman if ever there was one. If she realised that it needs to be done then surely others can be convinced?
I see it like that
Its sold and taken anyway
Instead of letting them jobless cunts get Rich of addiction
At least pump that money into the country and stop putting ppl fighting addiction in prison
Drugs cause nothing but trouble. To all those quoting Portugal, have you actually lived there ? The quality of life doesn’t match Ireland unless you’re in a tourist area.
What is wrong with people? … is that many of the public now on drugs and trying to support legalisation to get their little fix ?
Weed should be legalised and some others decriminalised. Gangs profit off hurt and vulnerable people who need help ,not be taken advantage of or thrown in prison bc they want to smoke a joint to de stress. Also the tourism it brings in.