Well the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development is a lonely place
you’re never alone on r/ireland…
and there’s no one but ourselves to blame
Not much of difference between them really
Take that Denmark?
I noticed how tik tok and ~~unemployable~~ influencers apportioned a lot of blame on to men for their own lonliness and part of that statement is true but not in the way that a lot of people think. Men as they grow older do not tend to keep the same friend circle, their friends move away, get married, have kids and the circle gets smaller and smaller. Easy for me to make friends, being gay I have a ready made scene but for those over 40 and predominantly straight, they tend to , in my experience stick to being family men but do wish to have male friends they can go for a pint with, watch football, go hiking etc etc. With the advent of mens sheds, the mens clubs etc it has lessened the lonliness aspect but I would urge anyone here who is lonely to look at MeetUp, Eventbrite, their local community centre for opportunities to alleviate that
On the plus side for the extremists, with our birth rate below replacement for the last 28ish years and no real “next generation”. All our “social progress” for the conservatives, and the “evil capitalist west” for the liberals/dems, should end with us.
So if you’re at either end of the political spectrum, this is technically all good news.
I am surprised the Turks are lonely.
Try being a young Irish man with the ’tism! It’s living life on Extremely Difficult mode for relationships of all kinds.
In seriousness, is there a common idea of the feeling of loneliness across different cultures (idk, just interested if it’s perceived as an emotional state differently). Again, in seriousness, how much might a feeling of loneliness actually sit within an undiagnosed depression, other mental illness or condition, or stem from an alienation from the social norms around you (which I imagine aren’t fixed and really multiple and variable: eg you’re in a close-knit rural set-up and you don’t want to stay there and run the generationally-owned farm or family pub; you’re in a very suburban setting where people are transitory and it’s difficult to establish deeper connections around you).
People be liking Tiktok videos in their 100s of thousands laughing at the concept of the Male Loneliness Crisis and then take somber selfies at events like Darkness Into Light 🤪
I love Ireland. But after living abroad for a while, you realise the need is out there for more ways to socialise. We are getting better, but my God, it’s hard to get a social event going that doesn’t involve going to the pub.
Any lonely young Irish men please message me…
When you have a culture built around socialising in bars and then experience lockdowns followed by extortionate costs, is really a recipe to kill and prevented the rejuvenation of the social bar culture
I have about 2 or 3 friends that try too keep up with me in any shape or form. Most of the time, I feel like if I never contacted people first, I wouldn’t even have that. I feel like I don’t fit in anywhere and that nobody really wants me around, some just put up with me while I’m around and can’t wait until I’m gone. My own family treat me like an outcast and didn’t invite me to a siblings birthday party yesterday (I thought she was out with her fella for the day). I probably spend a good 90% or more of every day alone and it fucking sucks.
The stat should be “young Irish men are amongst the most likely to report loneliness”
We have spent years suffering through campaigns designed to get folks to talk about how they feel. Look at those countries scoring low here (Slovakia and Poland at 4%). Is it that they are less lonely, or that they are less likely to report loneliness.
It looks like everyone is lonely
Of course they are. They’re not only priced out of moving from their childhood bedroom into middle age, but they’re also priced out of so many social activities and for 95% of the country, unless you have a car (which have also skyrocketed in prices in recent years on the second hand market) being able to get most places can take multiple hours.
just stop gooning
Just above Spain?! I don’t think I’ve been to a more sociable country where the locals are always in groups and engaging socially. That seems suspect.
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Well the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development is a lonely place
you’re never alone on r/ireland…
and there’s no one but ourselves to blame
Not much of difference between them really
Take that Denmark?
I noticed how tik tok and ~~unemployable~~ influencers apportioned a lot of blame on to men for their own lonliness and part of that statement is true but not in the way that a lot of people think. Men as they grow older do not tend to keep the same friend circle, their friends move away, get married, have kids and the circle gets smaller and smaller. Easy for me to make friends, being gay I have a ready made scene but for those over 40 and predominantly straight, they tend to , in my experience stick to being family men but do wish to have male friends they can go for a pint with, watch football, go hiking etc etc. With the advent of mens sheds, the mens clubs etc it has lessened the lonliness aspect but I would urge anyone here who is lonely to look at MeetUp, Eventbrite, their local community centre for opportunities to alleviate that
On the plus side for the extremists, with our birth rate below replacement for the last 28ish years and no real “next generation”. All our “social progress” for the conservatives, and the “evil capitalist west” for the liberals/dems, should end with us.
So if you’re at either end of the political spectrum, this is technically all good news.
I am surprised the Turks are lonely.
Try being a young Irish man with the ’tism! It’s living life on Extremely Difficult mode for relationships of all kinds.
In seriousness, is there a common idea of the feeling of loneliness across different cultures (idk, just interested if it’s perceived as an emotional state differently). Again, in seriousness, how much might a feeling of loneliness actually sit within an undiagnosed depression, other mental illness or condition, or stem from an alienation from the social norms around you (which I imagine aren’t fixed and really multiple and variable: eg you’re in a close-knit rural set-up and you don’t want to stay there and run the generationally-owned farm or family pub; you’re in a very suburban setting where people are transitory and it’s difficult to establish deeper connections around you).
People be liking Tiktok videos in their 100s of thousands laughing at the concept of the Male Loneliness Crisis and then take somber selfies at events like Darkness Into Light 🤪
I love Ireland. But after living abroad for a while, you realise the need is out there for more ways to socialise. We are getting better, but my God, it’s hard to get a social event going that doesn’t involve going to the pub.
Any lonely young Irish men please message me…
When you have a culture built around socialising in bars and then experience lockdowns followed by extortionate costs, is really a recipe to kill and prevented the rejuvenation of the social bar culture
I have about 2 or 3 friends that try too keep up with me in any shape or form. Most of the time, I feel like if I never contacted people first, I wouldn’t even have that. I feel like I don’t fit in anywhere and that nobody really wants me around, some just put up with me while I’m around and can’t wait until I’m gone. My own family treat me like an outcast and didn’t invite me to a siblings birthday party yesterday (I thought she was out with her fella for the day). I probably spend a good 90% or more of every day alone and it fucking sucks.
The stat should be “young Irish men are amongst the most likely to report loneliness”
We have spent years suffering through campaigns designed to get folks to talk about how they feel. Look at those countries scoring low here (Slovakia and Poland at 4%). Is it that they are less lonely, or that they are less likely to report loneliness.
It looks like everyone is lonely
Of course they are. They’re not only priced out of moving from their childhood bedroom into middle age, but they’re also priced out of so many social activities and for 95% of the country, unless you have a car (which have also skyrocketed in prices in recent years on the second hand market) being able to get most places can take multiple hours.
just stop gooning
Just above Spain?! I don’t think I’ve been to a more sociable country where the locals are always in groups and engaging socially. That seems suspect.
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