Pope Leo XIV confirms stance on equal marriage

https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/07/09/pope-leo-xiv-confirms-stance-on-equal-marriage/

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  1. He’s basically saying he blesses everyone. He doesn’t weigh their marriage the same as another, but he still blesses them. It’s a weird sort of… I’m still your guy heteros… but… you gays are okay too! He’s being a typical religious person desperately seeking a loop hole to make everyone happy.

    Hell of a lot better than it use to be so… take what we can get from this theater troupe. You know the flock will just decide whatever they want anyway. Look what they said about Francis.

  2. I’m reminded of George Carlin’s advice about religion:

    “There should be two commandments: Don’t be a dick, and keep thy religion to thyself”

  3. Hear me out, this is an overwhelmingly positive development in today’s world. Put aside your misgivings about the church for just a minute and realize in a time where our democracy is at best moribund and the fundamentalist dogs are slavering at the prospect of putting us all in camps, there is now a well-placed voice for at least some reason and progressive change.

    Francis put a lot of work into laying the groundwork for change. Voices out of especially Africa and Eastern Europe will be very unhappy with Leo. And he could have simply given Trump the nod for a great many things but he has been indirectly very critical of the current regime.

    We can talk about how things can be better but don’t forget to appreciate what we actually have going for us in this dark time. We need people to take heart and fight, because a little resistance at this crucial juncture will help set the tone as we determine a new relationship between our government and its people.

  4. If you aren’t a believer, you shouldn’t care what the religious believe. And in that same vein, they shouldn’t care what you believe

    Edit: people are either misunderstanding or not reading the second sentence.

  6. I never understood why someone would be against gay marriage.. You’re fine with arranged marriages, people who are forced into marriage, people who only marry for money and women who marry men old enough to be their grandfather. But two men who genuinely love each other is where you draw the line..

  8. I went to church from 18-30. Came out at 30. Dealt with tons of guilt and shame over my sexuality and feeling like a demon/gross/disgusting human for thinking other men were attractive. The gays were around before the church, and we will be around after the church. Also, the amount of “friends” that I have from my church days who are crazy outwardly bigoted is wild. I have “friends” who went to seminary in the states in Detroit, and they are so radicalized against the queer community its terrifying. The off handed crazy shit they share on facebook/insta stories is wild…. A direct quote from the last video I watched from one of them “homosexuality is a disorder but so is masterbation….” bruh it’s 2025… homosexuality isn’t in the dsm-5… if priests were forced to take psychology instead of philosophy and theology, maybe they wouldn’t be such crazy bigots…

  9. This is very good news. Cardinal Prevost held very homophobic positions in the past, so this current stance either means:

    a) his association with Pope Francis led him to genuinely reconsider his views and embrace a more open-minded approach, or

    b) he senses that the prevailing winds in the Catholic Church are towards tolerance at least, and perhaps acceptance, and isn’t planning to stand in the way of that.

    Either way, a relief for people who feared he might be gearing up to take the Church a big step backwards.

  10. Why would anyone expect the leader of a religion to bless something that is clearly stated as being a sin by said religion?

  11. Alright, I’ll bite.

    I get a lot of people on Reddit say religion sucks and all the catholic priest diddling kids jokes. I get it. I’m Catholic and I’m the first one to say, lock those pedophile priests up and throw away the key. I’m pro-choice, pro-gay marriage. Trans people have the right to making decisions about their bodies just like anyone else does. Rejecting modern medicine/science is complete bullshit, and the Catholic community should look down on these people. Pierre Elliot Trudeau, when gay marriage was passed as law in Canada, said the government had no business in the bedrooms of fellow Canadians. He was correct. If you are Catholic, we are in this club, we are in this circle, and it is OUR job to make sure to be more progressive, more inclusive, and beat the odds of what “religion” is supposed to be. It kills me that these Christians walk around judging others, taking away the rights of others, belittling the poor and the hungry, when Jesus EXPLICITLY told us to HELP those who are in need. Not shame, not guilt-trip, but help. You’ve got bread? Cool, now give half your loaf of bread to the person who is hungry. Someone in need? Open your doors to them and show kindness and respect. Fuck all these wannabe Christians who pretend to act like they are following Christ’s teachings when they act the total opposite of what Christ taught us to do. I live my life trying to be the most kind, compassionate, honest, and charitable person I can possibly be because that is what my catholic parents taught me to be. And that includes accepting everyone. I wish the Pope would just come out and fucking say it already. Gay people are people, and they are loved and appreciated just like everyone else is. Full stop. Stop fucking around. This is the 21st century here, and me as a Catholic, I’m not gonna stoop to the level of being hateful, resentful just because some people are different than me. I celebrate that because the world would be a mind numbingly boring place if everyone was the same as me.

    Rant over. Thank you all for coming to my Ted talk.

  12. Why do need the church do change its stance on same sex marriage? If youre gay and you wanna get gay married and the church doesnt allow or recognize it, then get out of that church. You can already get gay married by law. Do that.

  13. Still waiting for the Papel Bull excommunicating Green Bay.

  14. Fair enough. You don’t have to agree with something to treat a person with kindness and love, especially if they’re a good person. I wish church was more open with these things, but things take time.

  15. > According to the National Catholic Reporter, cardinal Victor Manuel Fernández, the head of the dicastery for the doctrine of the faith, told an Italian reporter last week that same-sex blessings would continue. Asked if the pope would backtrack, he replied: “I really don’t think so, the declaration will remain.”

    The headline is not even in the ballpark of what was said or by whom.

  18. He knows marriage equality is right but he knows the church won’t let him say it. 

  20. I’ll believe him when the Roman Catholic Church marries gay people. Until, then, it’s hot air.

  21. The best way to support equal rights is to not support the Catholic Church. I grew up Catholic and went to Catholic K-12. What most people don’t realize is that the Pope doesn’t set doctrine. That takes a very long process that traditionally only happens every few generations. It doesn’t really matter what the Pope says as far as what Catholic doctrine does or does not support. That’s why it’s so slow to change and take action. Also, with the lack of response to pedos, even if the K-12 hadn’t turned me away from religious belief, I still wouldn’t go back.

  23. popes get to pick their name. I’d pick my pope name to be: Pope John Paul Jimmy Page Asskicker *Incorporated*

  24. I mean, it’s about as good as you can expect from someone in his position.

    He says that he would continue to bless same-sex marriages, but also mentions there is a distinction with hetero marriages. It’s certainly better than it used to be many years ago. I think it would have been rather unrealistic to expect the leader of the most predominant sect of Christianity to suddenly be like “You know what? Heck what the Bible says”. He’s not been militant against homosexuality, nor tried to undo the progress started by Pope Francis. If he honestly believes in Jesus and the teachings of the Bible, then he’ll have to accept it as a whole, including the parts he may not like, agree with, or question.

    Unfortunately I think it’ll be a long while (if at all) before Christian leaders agree to homosexual marriage as fully equal. However, taking steps to normalize its presence and ease animosity are good first steps. Like I said, the dude could be out here militantly denouncing homosexuality as a whole. It would’ve be expected not many years ago. I think this is a sign of positive steps forward.

    That said, this article is kinda crap that it says “Pope Leo confirms” but then we see the source is one of his Cardinals saying “well I guess he hasn’t changed anything…”

  26. I just can’t believe in 2025 people give a shit about gay people marrying each other.

  27. If you decline to follow/disagree with some of the practices of the Pope, can you no longer be considered Catholic?

  28. Weird how the Catholic Church can have different stances on subjects as time passes.

    It’s almost like they aren’t in communication with God at all.

    It’s almost like their religion is complete bullshit.

  29. The pope can make whatever rules on religious marriage that he wants.

    Legal marriage should remain up to the government to define.

  31. Embarrassing question but what does “Everyone, everyone. Mind you, I am talking about those who are capable of receiving baptism.” (Pope Francis) mean in this context?

    I can only find explanations relating to age (infants) and mental disability – is that it?

  32. Everyone deserves to be just as unhappy as everyone else

  34. So, I am not a catholic (or religious at all for that matter) but this makes no sense to me. Is there actually some theological argument on why God changed his mind about gay marriage? Or is the church just full mask off on not caring about the rules of the religion they claim to believe in?

  35. I’m super progressive, but religion is a different beast. There’s particular rules within the rites of a religious practice which are absolutely arbitrary to anyone outside the practice.

    I think the Pope’s offering of a blessing to same sex couples is the closest he can get to showing love and respect to same sex couples.

    However, I would say that the point of marriage in the Catholic Church is to join a man and a woman with the expressed consent of them having children. So if the man and/or the woman disclosed that they can’t have children or choose not to, they shouldn’t be able to preform the sacrament of marriage under Catholic liturgy.

    Rules is rules 🤷‍♀️

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