I’m not surprised by the downvotes. It’s humiliating. All my czech female friends hate this tradition.
It’s always the “tolerant, accepting” people who cant view anything actually different with a bit of nuance, it’s often the people who scream about cultural appropriation.
Pretty sure a lot of the downvotes are generated from the “it’s not like some men would beat the duck out of you every Easter”. It’s fine to share your opinion but don’t say this doesn’t happen to other women when there were so many claiming that it has happened to them in the thread…
Both my wife and mom are angry at me once I forget to whip them… Happening each year.
I think it also depends on the region. Some of my relatives from the Southern Moravian region were complaining that the men there demand money while completely drunk and sometimes the men pour cold water on the women from a bucket. They also said that if they would have offered eggs/sweets (how it usually goes where I live) they would throw the eggs back at them and demand they get money.
Also heard from other family members that northern Moravia/Silesia isn’t much better but also that there’s always jerks and normal people.
Giving groups of teenage boys and old men free booze and telling them to whip girls in their village or city definitely ends badly quite often from my experiences.
Tak na jednu stranu, pokud se člověk nějak hodně ožere nebo někoho doslova ztříská, tak to není až tak moc problém naších tradic, ale ten dotyčný člověk je prostě debil.
Mimochodem, fakt mě zajímá, kam ten svět spěje, když už i zkurvený Velikonoce způsobují kontroverzi.
You’re a man, aren’t you
Fragile redditor moment
For me it’s not anymore , i never liked it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Oh no, someone has a different opinion on the internet than me. How could that ever come to be? Such an unexpected turn of events!
I don’t know. I live in Central Bohemia in a little town/village and we go to houses of people we know and even some people we dont. And I don’t remember anyone being angry at us. We try to be gentle and even if we are drunk by the time we come to someone’s house we usually make sure to not do anything dumb and just have a nice chat with them. Everyone is healthy at the end and our livers are trashed, but nothing too extreme.
My wife is American and I come from Moravia. She’s lived here for quite some time and accepted the tradition as very strange but sort of part of the culture. Then one year I took here to celebrate easter back home (Moravia) and then it changed. She spent easter at my parents house and all of the neighbors and family members insisted on whiping her and would refuse to leave unless they are allowed to do so. It was extremely uncomfortable for her and even though nobody would hurt her. She viewed it as very demeaning experience.
As for this. I used to go “na koledu” most of my childhood and loved it. I was always respectful to my female friends and family and I agree that my grandmothers would be angry if I didn’t come to whip them (they still kinda are, since I am no longer comming home for Easter) if someone loves it, I don’t want to take it away from them, but I am personally not gonna be angry when this tradition dies out.
Spaniard here , my mother in law always insist that I should do it and I always refuse 😀 my girlfriend as well but.. really I pass, they respect it and it’s not an issue whatsoever. In their little village they do it and it’s never a problem.
Now, am I sure sometimes somebody step out of the line? Most def. I am sure that if this happens to hundreds of thousands of women in a country somebody at some point did not like it or some drunk douche abused it. It’s a no brainer
The real drama comes when somebody abuses it and nobody says anything about it. If I see somebody being a cunt during this tradition trust me I would call them out but in my little tiny circle I haven’t seen it
That said if you try to bring this tradition to Spain you will literally be convicted as sexual abuser/machist violence right now in a court of law no matter the situation or context
Ono to záleží na situaci. V naší farnosti tak o 1000 lidech se slaví, a o Velikonocích se celá farnost vzájemně potká a obecně je to fajn. A samozřejmě nikdo ženy netýrá a ony (až na výjimky což chápeme) to nepovažujou za potupu.
As a woman, I hate this tradition with a burning passion and I’ll never involve my future kids in it. I have a trauma from being beaten up by drunk strangers every year and I’ll be happy when this stupid thing dies out.
I’m from South Bohemia and where I live only people you know come by and there’s no alcohol involved in the morning
Já si pamatuji, jak mi to jako náctileté bylo nepříjemné. Vždycky se najde debil, který neví, co znamená ne. Pokud koledníci nejsou vlezlí nebo hrubí, tak mi to nevadí.
Celebrating Easter in the countryside with my grandparents are one of my most treasured childhood memories.
I guess it’s not a custom in bigger towns, but there girls go “na koledu” as well up until they are like 8-10 years. I thought I’d be bored the first year I actually stayed home in the morning instead of leaving with my father and brothers, but I learned that I actually enjoyed it more.
For me as a little girl, it was an important learning and growing moment, when I realised I could be happy not only about receiving things but also giving them – gifting the arriving people, sometimes total strangers with good food, drink and handmade painted eggs. Sure, some people made me uncomfortable at times, but that was also a part of the experience – it helped me learn to stand up for myself and draw the lines of what I no longer found acceptable.
Czech easter always was and always will be my favorite custom. Times when everybody is laughing, joking, feasting and having fun. At least in my personal bubble, absolute majority of women are happy about it and those that aren’t just don’t open to people on Monday, leave for a trip or so – it’s not really that hard of a problem to solve.
I have always hated the Easter tradition with burning passion. I have never been beated to the point where it hurt, but my region (Valašsko) uses juniper branches which fucking sting for hours. My problem with this is that it’s always so degrading and one-sided. I don’t understand how it’s ok that the male members of the family are allowed to go trick or treating while the female members lock themselves up at home and hope nobody comes by – not to mention brothers refusing to share his candy “because those are his treats”. Just explain how that is fair to a child.
I am all for celebrating Easter as a social occasion where family and friends get together but if we could remove the gendered aspect that’d be great.
Mně se ségrou, jako dvěma holkám, vždycky babička s dědou schovávali po zahradě čokoládová vajíčka. Jednou jsme s kamarádkama byly i koledovat (když mi bylo asi 10) a už v tu dobu mi přišel celý akt s pomlázkou divný. Takže jsem nakonec jen říkala básničku a máchala pomlázkou ve vzduchu. No dneska je mi skoro 30, na Velikonoce jsem většinou u rodičů na venkově a sledovat strejce o 15 – 20 let starší, ze kterejch táhne chlast, já je ani neznám (vim, že existujou, ale nepotkám je, co je rok dlouhej) a oni přijdou na Velikonoce, plácat tě přes zadek s podtextem, abych byla plodná… no jdu se poblít
Where I live everyone takes is extremely light hearted and no one would think to actually seriously injure anyone or use that much force. Never knew it’s such a problem in other parts of the Czech republic but oh well
Most of the women I know have never enjoyed Easter in the first place. I thankfully don’t have the experience of being beaten to the point of actual pain, but I still find the whole affair uncomfortable and very humiliating.
I will say it was much worse for me as a teenager because my mother and grandmother forced me into it. I remember drunk men my grandpa’s age leering at me and having way too much fun. It was a horrible experience. I’m also not sure why we need to confer fertility onto 12 year olds..
The worst part for me by far is that a lot of people just refuse to take no for an answer and refuse to understand when you tell them you don’t like it. I don’t care if other people want to uphold these traditions, they’re free to do so. I can’t stand the fact that I’m being pushed into it and looked down upon for not wanting to participate, though.
lidi co holky MLÁTĚJ pomlázkou jsou kreténi, má to bejt symbolicky
people who BEAT girls with pomlázkas are idiots, it’s supposed to be symbolic
An easy way of making easter way more enjoyable is to only visit family, friends and other people you have good relations with.
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Why so many downvotes??
I’m not surprised by the downvotes. It’s humiliating. All my czech female friends hate this tradition.
It’s always the “tolerant, accepting” people who cant view anything actually different with a bit of nuance, it’s often the people who scream about cultural appropriation.
Pretty sure a lot of the downvotes are generated from the “it’s not like some men would beat the duck out of you every Easter”. It’s fine to share your opinion but don’t say this doesn’t happen to other women when there were so many claiming that it has happened to them in the thread…
Both my wife and mom are angry at me once I forget to whip them… Happening each year.
I think it also depends on the region. Some of my relatives from the Southern Moravian region were complaining that the men there demand money while completely drunk and sometimes the men pour cold water on the women from a bucket. They also said that if they would have offered eggs/sweets (how it usually goes where I live) they would throw the eggs back at them and demand they get money.
Also heard from other family members that northern Moravia/Silesia isn’t much better but also that there’s always jerks and normal people.
Giving groups of teenage boys and old men free booze and telling them to whip girls in their village or city definitely ends badly quite often from my experiences.
Tak na jednu stranu, pokud se člověk nějak hodně ožere nebo někoho doslova ztříská, tak to není až tak moc problém naších tradic, ale ten dotyčný člověk je prostě debil.
Mimochodem, fakt mě zajímá, kam ten svět spěje, když už i zkurvený Velikonoce způsobují kontroverzi.
You’re a man, aren’t you
Fragile redditor moment
For me it’s not anymore , i never liked it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Oh no, someone has a different opinion on the internet than me. How could that ever come to be? Such an unexpected turn of events!
I don’t know. I live in Central Bohemia in a little town/village and we go to houses of people we know and even some people we dont. And I don’t remember anyone being angry at us. We try to be gentle and even if we are drunk by the time we come to someone’s house we usually make sure to not do anything dumb and just have a nice chat with them. Everyone is healthy at the end and our livers are trashed, but nothing too extreme.
My wife is American and I come from Moravia. She’s lived here for quite some time and accepted the tradition as very strange but sort of part of the culture. Then one year I took here to celebrate easter back home (Moravia) and then it changed. She spent easter at my parents house and all of the neighbors and family members insisted on whiping her and would refuse to leave unless they are allowed to do so. It was extremely uncomfortable for her and even though nobody would hurt her. She viewed it as very demeaning experience.
As for this. I used to go “na koledu” most of my childhood and loved it. I was always respectful to my female friends and family and I agree that my grandmothers would be angry if I didn’t come to whip them (they still kinda are, since I am no longer comming home for Easter) if someone loves it, I don’t want to take it away from them, but I am personally not gonna be angry when this tradition dies out.
Spaniard here , my mother in law always insist that I should do it and I always refuse 😀 my girlfriend as well but.. really I pass, they respect it and it’s not an issue whatsoever. In their little village they do it and it’s never a problem.
Now, am I sure sometimes somebody step out of the line? Most def. I am sure that if this happens to hundreds of thousands of women in a country somebody at some point did not like it or some drunk douche abused it. It’s a no brainer
The real drama comes when somebody abuses it and nobody says anything about it. If I see somebody being a cunt during this tradition trust me I would call them out but in my little tiny circle I haven’t seen it
That said if you try to bring this tradition to Spain you will literally be convicted as sexual abuser/machist violence right now in a court of law no matter the situation or context
Ono to záleží na situaci. V naší farnosti tak o 1000 lidech se slaví, a o Velikonocích se celá farnost vzájemně potká a obecně je to fajn. A samozřejmě nikdo ženy netýrá a ony (až na výjimky což chápeme) to nepovažujou za potupu.
As a woman, I hate this tradition with a burning passion and I’ll never involve my future kids in it. I have a trauma from being beaten up by drunk strangers every year and I’ll be happy when this stupid thing dies out.
I’m from South Bohemia and where I live only people you know come by and there’s no alcohol involved in the morning
Já si pamatuji, jak mi to jako náctileté bylo nepříjemné. Vždycky se najde debil, který neví, co znamená ne. Pokud koledníci nejsou vlezlí nebo hrubí, tak mi to nevadí.
Celebrating Easter in the countryside with my grandparents are one of my most treasured childhood memories.
I guess it’s not a custom in bigger towns, but there girls go “na koledu” as well up until they are like 8-10 years. I thought I’d be bored the first year I actually stayed home in the morning instead of leaving with my father and brothers, but I learned that I actually enjoyed it more.
For me as a little girl, it was an important learning and growing moment, when I realised I could be happy not only about receiving things but also giving them – gifting the arriving people, sometimes total strangers with good food, drink and handmade painted eggs. Sure, some people made me uncomfortable at times, but that was also a part of the experience – it helped me learn to stand up for myself and draw the lines of what I no longer found acceptable.
Czech easter always was and always will be my favorite custom. Times when everybody is laughing, joking, feasting and having fun. At least in my personal bubble, absolute majority of women are happy about it and those that aren’t just don’t open to people on Monday, leave for a trip or so – it’s not really that hard of a problem to solve.
I have always hated the Easter tradition with burning passion. I have never been beated to the point where it hurt, but my region (Valašsko) uses juniper branches which fucking sting for hours. My problem with this is that it’s always so degrading and one-sided. I don’t understand how it’s ok that the male members of the family are allowed to go trick or treating while the female members lock themselves up at home and hope nobody comes by – not to mention brothers refusing to share his candy “because those are his treats”. Just explain how that is fair to a child.
I am all for celebrating Easter as a social occasion where family and friends get together but if we could remove the gendered aspect that’d be great.
Mně se ségrou, jako dvěma holkám, vždycky babička s dědou schovávali po zahradě čokoládová vajíčka. Jednou jsme s kamarádkama byly i koledovat (když mi bylo asi 10) a už v tu dobu mi přišel celý akt s pomlázkou divný. Takže jsem nakonec jen říkala básničku a máchala pomlázkou ve vzduchu. No dneska je mi skoro 30, na Velikonoce jsem většinou u rodičů na venkově a sledovat strejce o 15 – 20 let starší, ze kterejch táhne chlast, já je ani neznám (vim, že existujou, ale nepotkám je, co je rok dlouhej) a oni přijdou na Velikonoce, plácat tě přes zadek s podtextem, abych byla plodná… no jdu se poblít
Where I live everyone takes is extremely light hearted and no one would think to actually seriously injure anyone or use that much force. Never knew it’s such a problem in other parts of the Czech republic but oh well
Most of the women I know have never enjoyed Easter in the first place. I thankfully don’t have the experience of being beaten to the point of actual pain, but I still find the whole affair uncomfortable and very humiliating.
I will say it was much worse for me as a teenager because my mother and grandmother forced me into it. I remember drunk men my grandpa’s age leering at me and having way too much fun. It was a horrible experience. I’m also not sure why we need to confer fertility onto 12 year olds..
The worst part for me by far is that a lot of people just refuse to take no for an answer and refuse to understand when you tell them you don’t like it. I don’t care if other people want to uphold these traditions, they’re free to do so. I can’t stand the fact that I’m being pushed into it and looked down upon for not wanting to participate, though.
lidi co holky MLÁTĚJ pomlázkou jsou kreténi, má to bejt symbolicky
people who BEAT girls with pomlázkas are idiots, it’s supposed to be symbolic
An easy way of making easter way more enjoyable is to only visit family, friends and other people you have good relations with.