Hey eveyone,
After one too many stressful commutes being forced to listen to people have conversations on loudspeaker or experience someone else’s tik tok reel, I have decided to take this to TfL. There silence on the issue and been deafening.
I’m hoping with enough signatures I can take this petition to TfL and demand as a customer that they start to tackle this issue.
There are signs everywhere telling people ‘be kind’, how about some signage asking people to be respectful of others journeys. This may also embolden people to speak up, I do believe that some societal pressure is also needed to tackle this. I’m often asking people to use headphones and it very rarely goes badly.
I know this is now a larger issue nationwide and possibly worldwide but I’m thinking of starting small here.
If you wish to sign here’s the link
Please remember you need to confirm from your email address for the signature too count.
by SuccessfulYogurt7476
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How exactly would this be enforced? I hate them as much as the next person, but if TfL were able to implement anything like this, surely the first port of call would be crack down on fare evaders.
The social contract died of aids in the 80s. You’re just witnessing its final embers flickering out, nothing can be done.
You could ask them to put up this poster from 1987. https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/posters/item/1987-76
Kind of agree with the other post – I really dislike the music-players, but it’s not tfl’s job to do anything about it, and any kind of meaningful action would cost them a fortune and drive up fair prices…
Signed!
I agree and it’s also a safety issue because you literally cannot hear announcements when someone’s phone is on high volume.
We at least need adverts to teach these inconsiderate idiots that what they are doing is indecent public behaviour.
What exactly do you expect a petition to achieve?
Unless you are suggesting they spend human capital policing the behaviour in which case are you prepared to pay the increased costs?
People should behave better but this is an education and societal issue not a tfl one.
I’m not getting stabbed asking passengers to be quiet.
You will need Facial Recognition cameras and decibel meters
Noise cancelling headphones are a must now on trains, buses and even planes
Was on a flight recently where the tiktoks were going off and someone was having a video call
how many times have you actually said something to the person rather then relying on death stares and tutting
I wonder if it is specific tube lines? I mostly bike around London, but recently took the overground from Liverpool Street to Clapton after work hours and everyone was so quiet
That ai picture is horrendous.
This might end up needing a technological solution rather than a societal one as I don’t think people are going to listen.
Possibly a signal that forces the device into ‘public transport mode’ which disables the speakers. Headphones would still work.
As a South Asian, I want to know why is it always a South Asian having a loud call on speakerphone?
Signed
I feel like people always say this but i havent noticed it at all, the distribution of idiots on the tube rises when you get to westminister smd the clueless tourists get on without waiting, and a few other toruist spots, but other thsn that most people are following the ettiquete, stsnding to the side on escalators, not putting their bag on a seat. Also, i know most people arent brave enough to do this, and im tall with a shaved head so maybe i have intimidation factor, but a tap on the shoulder and actually telling someone to stop will work 90% of the time. Be brave
Should just start fining people. Amazed people can’t sit on a train for 10mins without blasting TikTok videos like a slot machine of pure random noise.
Monocles should be mandatory.
This is very British. Just ask people nicely, rather than outsource your civic duty to a third party.
Maybe I’m in the minority but I’ve never been bothered by phone speaker issues so many get upset about.
When I’m alone I have my earphones and I do my own thing.
If I’m travelling with someone else then the chances are we’re chatting and making noise ourselves.
There already are posters around asking people to be considerate about this – what exactly are you asking TfL to do?
This is an issue of cultural difference – some people think it’s an acceptable way to behave in public, many of us do not think it’s acceptable, but the change has to come from cultural pressure I think. People who feel confident to do so calling out or otherwise shaming people doing it. Personally I quite like the pass-ag move of playing a well known classical piece of music at top volume to compete, if I feel like I’m in a friendly crowd who are all also gritting their teeth at the offender. Done it twice now. One time they tried to ignore it but everyone started giggling a bit and they got off at the next stop. The second they got a bit aggro with me but I felt safe in the crowd and again they got off at the next stop. No way would I do it every time but just judge if I felt safe/confident in the moment.
Are you also going to campaign against people *talking* on public transit? What is the difference is between someone communicating on loudspeaker vs someone who’s having a conversation next to you? Social media I get – but on loudspeaker seriously?
I think it can’t be denied that there are cultural differences with noise and what is seemed acceptable varies from country to country. It does irk me that people are not culturally aware of whats appropriate in the country they live in. However instead of making it a race issue as some people are keen to do, I think some signage and education would go a long way. In my experience many south Asians are very polite and respectful and are just not aware what they are doing is deemed rude.
I’m pretty sure the kind of person that has music on full blast without headphones doesn’t give a shit about a poster telling them not to.
There’s barely any staff on the platforms and none on the trains apart from the driver. They won’t do anything about this.
I just always wear nose cancelling headphones.
Signed 🫡
Can we make one forcing people to take off their backpacks, moving down the carriage and letting people off before boarding as well?? 😡😭
Its not even etiquette imo, its lack of common sense…
When has a Change petition ever actually changed anything, let alone something as nebulous as this?
They just need to enforce a rule that doesn’t allow people to eat on public transport – £100 fine if you’re caught.
What do you expect them to do?
The people who are doing it know it’s not nice already and don’t care.
overly dramatic redditor is dramatic
Got my vote, we need a culture shift, all immigrants arriving to U.K. should be shown posters teaching about etiquette, children in schools should be told about it on regular basis. More can be done for sure. Posters up on TFL buses/tube stations shaming those wankstains
look its a nice idea but if you think TFL aren’t aware of this problem then you are dreaming. Here is the only thing TFL will listen to: stop using public transport as much as possible. write to TFL to tell them that public transport is an utter hellscape and until they get it sorted you will shop online, go to restaurants/bars etc within walking distance of your home and work from home as much as possible.
TFL is apparently losing money hand over fist and I suspect this is one of the reasons.
How is someone having a call on loud speaker more egregious than two people having a conversation in person?
There are posters already asking people to be more respectful, but of course, if you’re ignorant enough to play music out loud you’re not going to be told off by a poster.
I do agree with you but petitioning simply aint gonna work.
What would be effective is to ask those making this disturbance, politely and respectfully, to turn it down.
Scrotes are going to scrote but hopefully you’ll get through to a few people.
“Please remember you need to confirm from your email address for the signature too count.”
Yeah, thanks but no thanks.
Transport police actually need to ride on transport regularly throughout the day and fine people, it’s the only way.
We also need cultural and civic lessons posted all over the tube network.
If you want to actually do this: you’ll want to submit your petition to [the London Assembly](https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/london-assembly-petitions), and you’ll need to get your local Assembly member on board with presenting it. Info on that link.
Tfl could do with cutting down the unnecessary waffle on the PA as well. We don’t need audio reminders about everything every thirty seconds…. They are contributing hugely to the noise pollution themselves.
The worst are the ones with the kids lecturing us about some safety nonsense. Some ad executive told them it’s cute. It’s not and nobody is listening when they are stressed to fuck cos the service is late, boiling hot, and expensive
As a short female that uses the underground every day, and it being summer, I do request: please use deodorant. Tanks.
What is actually wrong with these people though? Crass to an incomprehensible level.
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