Most Europeans would support independent Scotland joining EU, poll finds

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/scotland-keir-starmer-yougov-brexit-britons-b2789188.html

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  1. >In Italy, 64% favour Scotland being allowed to join, with 11% against, broadly similar to **Spain** – where 65% said they would support an independent Scotland in the EU while 13% are opposed to this.

    For some reason though, every Spanish politician that has ever existed always falls under the 13% camp, not the 65%. I wonder why!!!

  2. I think it’s far to say most people in the UK, outside of Scotland, don’t fight against the idea.

    It’s their choice, and so far they’ve chosen to stay.

    Now… lots of people think it would be beyond a disaster for them! in the style of Brexit as it were… But it’s their choice to make that mistake.

  3. Interesting survey.
    Only I did not understand why they were asked the British , and not only the Scots.

     And as I understand it , the UK government in the near future against a referendum on Scottish independence.

     Well, I would like to know from the Scots themselves , what the results of the survey on independence in Scotland itself.

  4. If Scotland were to become an independent state and wanted to join the EU, of course I would support that. But I think it’s a theoretical discussion. London won’t allow a new referendum anytime soon, and when I look at the polls in Scotland, it seems that the public isn’t particularly enthusiastic about the idea yet.

  5. As a Scot, like the majority of Scottish voters who voted against Brexit, feeling awful pessimistic about this.

    Westminster always held a veto over Scottish Independence, and are unlikely to grant another in the short to long term.

    It’s sad to be shackled to the Reform fuelled politics of England but what can we do?

  7. Are we still doing this shit?

    Scotland leaving the UK would destroy Scotland it’s that simple.

  9. Seeing any part of the current UK back in the EU would be nice.

    UK as a whole being here would be awesome.

  11. Why wouldn’t they support it? It would be a very rich country. Although I think that partitioning the UK would be wrong.

  12. I think for most of us Europeans we think of Scotland as it’s own country same as Ireland so them being under British rule is surprising to us.

  14. An independent scotland would be an act of self-harm similar to brexit.

  15. For now it’s a political fiction: of course Scotland is close to the EU and viceversa, but creating tensions with it’s biggest neighbor and trade partner over some discontent is not worth it. Unless England does something really stupid that will make Scotland seriously reconsider the union, this article it’s just sensationalism

  16. Those are strange times, when France and the Kanaks just signed a conclusive agreement to “Scottlandize” Nouvelle-Calédonie (becoming a nation *inside of France*), and meanwhile the British commenters here are acting all Parisian towards Scottland (“the mere thought would be treason”)

    —

    Don’t worry, British friends, Madrid and Paris could be capable to refuse to integrate Scottland in the EU. They would be terrorized Catalonia, Corsica, Euskadi, and Britanny are next !

  17. Of course.

    The English have a fantasy that Spain or the Netherlands would block Scotland from joining. No, they wouldn’t.

    (But Hungary or Slovakia might, depending on if Putin is more interested in weakening the UK by splitting off Scotland than he is in splintering the EU.)

  19. Of course The EU could fund a totally poor country when independent.

  20. Scotland feels like a Nordic country. Not sure why they want to tie themselves to the chaos south of their border.

  21. Although I’d doubt Scottish independence is on the cards for a while now, for myriad reasons, but the oppressiveneds and backwards attitudes of English people, but also for defence and the government has invested a considerable amount of money into electricity in Scotland due to lacking space in England

  22. Isn’t mostly russian propaganda that continuously support Scotland independence ?

  23. Oh christ. Again. As an Englishman, I’m all for their independence. But this view ignores reality. Scotland leaving the UK wouldn’t just be difficult but it would be devastating to them.

    They run one of the highest deficits in Europe and funded massively by English taxpayers. The Barnett formula props up their public services. There’s no currency plan, no central bank and oil revenues is shaky to say the least. Then they’d be border complicationd. Independence means losing that financial support and subsidies overnight. The result would be brutal cuts, economic instability, market instability, capital flight and long term damage to jobs, services and investment. And a potential public service collapse unless taxes skyrocket.

    And the narrative that Scotland was a victim of the British Empire doesn’t stick. Scots played a major role in building and running that empire. They weren’t subjects, they were architects of it, partners. Scottish generals, governors, and.. slave traders, oh yes. Deeply involved.

    If Scotland wants to go its own way, that’s their right 100%, I think all 4 nations in the UK should be independent. But it’ll be a leap into a financial crisis without a single doubt.

  24. /u/GargantuanMonkeyFist

    with all respect, the Independant is owned by Evgeny Lebedev, who is the son of a Russian oligarch and a KGB agent.

    Too much to write about him, but he comes up frequently in the Private Eye, which probably says enough for anyone familiar with it.

  25. Until they sort the issue of the Irish sea border (since they don’t want to have a hard border between Northern Ireland and Ireland) there won’t be any Scotland joining the EU. There would be an even more difficult border to enforce, the one between Scotland and England.

  26. Obviously, that’s never going to happen, but why wouldn’t people support it? Scotland would be adopted as an honorary Nordic country in a heart beat.

  27. I just don’t see it happening for Scotland. Independence or signing up to joining the Euro. But sure.

  28. Given the Spanish provinces seeking independence from Spain, I don’t think Madrid would be happy to welcome Scotland to the EU.

  29. No, BS. No point to have a weakened UK near EU. We need all UK, together, all forces in the EU.

    Make this f**king referendum again.

  32. We’d also support independent Mars joining the EU.

    Scots should accept they lost a once in a lifetime occasion and independence will probably never happen this century.

    Same as the remainers that bang on about brexit 10 years later.

    Move on and make the most of it.

  33. EU members think it would be awesome to balkanise the U.K. but not grant indy to EU states within it.

  34. So Europe would lose half its nuclear deterrent while submarine relocation from Faslane would be figured out and Europe inherits a newly basket case country that has to unstitch hundreds of years of integration from the rest of the UK while it loses its economic and financial centre and entire military presence.

  36. Unfortunately Scotland really isn’t the position to become independent. The budget deficit is more than 10%. The country would be so bankrupt without the rest of the UK.

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