Really dosent fill me with confidence for the future of labour.
>Protests have caused “misery” for motorists, the Labour Party said in a statement on Monday, citing statistics published by the Campaign for Fair Fuel that say around one in three petrol stations in southern England have been forced to close.
>Labour is demanding the government bring in an injunction that would ban protests not only at oil terminals but also to stop them across Britain’s roads network.
Nice to see that someone is finally sticking up for ordinary people who just want to get to work. It’s about time the government started protecting ordinary people’s livelihoods from protesters who try to stop others from going about their daily business.
I support your right to protest right up until the point I can no longer ignore it
Which is really just a roundabout way of saying “I don’t really support your right to protest at all”
So Labour is now the Tory party? Fuck me just burn it down.
Get a grip. We’re talking literal existential threat to humanity, and all we can focus on is how inconvienient and annoying these protests are? This is exactly why we’re facing this threat though isn’t it? We’re so self absorbed, we’re unwilling to make even the smallest sacrifice that might slightly inconvenience us.
People agreeing with banning the protests are missing the point entirely – the protesters are not the issue, our inaction around climate breakdown is.
If the world continues to heat as it is – we are facing societal breakdown, millions of deaths, food shortages, maybe even a planet we can’t live on.
That is what we should focus on – not a few people trying to highlight the insanity of carrying on as we are.
The amount of people here defending/calling for protests to be banned/outlawed is just depressing.
Is the right to protest really as unpopular as our politicians seem to believe?
To those who are very anti these protests, I ask you how do you perform a protest against these oil companies without inconvenienceing the public?
Your right to protest ends where my right to go through life without facing the occasional minor inconvenience begins.
To the people that downvoted me yesterday for saying Labour were Diet Tories, lol.
Shoot me if I’m wrong but with the poorest people in this country literally starving to keep the heating on or freezing to afford food the last thing we need right now is to make oil less accessible. Yes the environment is a priority but not over people’s lives
After reading this thread, fuck it, warm the planet, lets murder ourselves. I’m ready, we don’t deserve our societies.
“Labour is demanding the government bring in an injunction that would ban protests not only at oil terminals but also to stop them across Britain’s roads network.”
So not only will the ocean be a soup and the air poison by the end of the century, they want to ban protests at the scene of the crime.
Tbf if they’re gonna criminalise peaceful climate protest, maybe the peaceful thing needs to go. Global warming is going to kill tens of millions if not hundreds. This is violence.
Is it me or are Labour going back to sticking up for the common working class again ?
This is a terrible idea! Labour might actually have a winning chance in the next election, if they keep coming up with stupid ideas!
Labour are a joke. We need a new, real socialist party.
The right to protest fine ….. what you don’t have a right to is to seriously impinge on the day to day lives of everyone else, all that will happen is that you’ll piss off further those that disagree with you and also change the minds of those that were beginning to agree with you.
Labour are seeing that a majority of people disagree with this type of protest and trying to collect more support by saying this, it’s politics they all change their minds when there’s a chance of more votes in the offing.
I saw coverage of a similar blockade in the Netherlands people were just driving through these idiots whilst the police stood there and did nothing … that’s the way to handle it. 🤣
Because the government wants to take our freedom of speech.
Labour needs to become electable, so we get a non-tory government. it doesn’t matter if they adopt entirely tory policies in the process, because we still have a labour government.
Where do you draw the line for what you’re allowed to do as part of a protest? Things like insulate Britain shutting down major transport routes are really pushing it for me.
Keir Starmer, as you will probably already know, is a member of the trilateral comission. He is not on the side of anyone except the ultra wealthy. Labour is a meaningless sham.
Climate change will be solved by NUCLEAR FUSION reactors. There are several prototypes being built. It just needs more research funding.
There are no emissions at all and it will be safe.
The public needs to know about this.
Unfortunately peaceful protesting is a fundamental right. You can’t stop people protesting.
Think of all the money that has been wasted on track and trace and dodgy COVID contracts. Then think of all the money that could be made taxing the gigantic profits of energy companies (which contribute to climate change).
Put that money into catapulting the UK to a greener economy and get a headstart before absolutely every country is fighting for the same equipment and letting the price of these things soar.
There’s so many obvious things, and obviously must be easier said than done because we’re not doing it. That, or maybe the fucking idiots in charge for 12 years don’t actually care.
100% agree, this has effected the local community, it will have no effect on the government policy or oil companies.
This type of action is essentially holding the public to ransom where what is really needed is to. engage those people to. support change.
It’s also a stupid sentiment ‘Just stop oil’ as if it’s really that simple. But I guess slowly phase out oil for other alternatives doesn’t allow this kind of. demonstration as its too rational.
As much as want diesel back on the forecourts, banning demonstrations seems dangerous to me. Also why is Labour taking a position to the right of the Tories?
They’re right.
While we absolutely should be doing all we can to move from fossil fuel dependence; we’re in a crisis situation with fuel and heating oil, with prices being driven up to historic highs due to a shortage of supply due to a number of factors. Protestors blockading terminals and refineries are only going to make those supply issues worse and therefore increase prices.
Don’t forget this doesn’t only affect vehicle fuel, but people’s ability to heat their homes as well.
So again, absolutely, unequivocally agree that we need to completely move away from fossil fuel, however we haven’t yet, and these protests will make people’s fuel poverty even worse.
Labour are bang on message; the protestors need to read the fucking room with regard to their timing.
Ladies and gentlemen I present to you the Keith centrism.
It’s refreshing to see Labour taking electable positions rather than dying on every progressive hill.
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Really dosent fill me with confidence for the future of labour.
>Protests have caused “misery” for motorists, the Labour Party said in a statement on Monday, citing statistics published by the Campaign for Fair Fuel that say around one in three petrol stations in southern England have been forced to close.
>Labour is demanding the government bring in an injunction that would ban protests not only at oil terminals but also to stop them across Britain’s roads network.
Nice to see that someone is finally sticking up for ordinary people who just want to get to work. It’s about time the government started protecting ordinary people’s livelihoods from protesters who try to stop others from going about their daily business.
I support your right to protest right up until the point I can no longer ignore it
Which is really just a roundabout way of saying “I don’t really support your right to protest at all”
So Labour is now the Tory party? Fuck me just burn it down.
Get a grip. We’re talking literal existential threat to humanity, and all we can focus on is how inconvienient and annoying these protests are? This is exactly why we’re facing this threat though isn’t it? We’re so self absorbed, we’re unwilling to make even the smallest sacrifice that might slightly inconvenience us.
People agreeing with banning the protests are missing the point entirely – the protesters are not the issue, our inaction around climate breakdown is.
If the world continues to heat as it is – we are facing societal breakdown, millions of deaths, food shortages, maybe even a planet we can’t live on.
That is what we should focus on – not a few people trying to highlight the insanity of carrying on as we are.
The amount of people here defending/calling for protests to be banned/outlawed is just depressing.
Is the right to protest really as unpopular as our politicians seem to believe?
To those who are very anti these protests, I ask you how do you perform a protest against these oil companies without inconvenienceing the public?
Your right to protest ends where my right to go through life without facing the occasional minor inconvenience begins.
To the people that downvoted me yesterday for saying Labour were Diet Tories, lol.
Shoot me if I’m wrong but with the poorest people in this country literally starving to keep the heating on or freezing to afford food the last thing we need right now is to make oil less accessible. Yes the environment is a priority but not over people’s lives
After reading this thread, fuck it, warm the planet, lets murder ourselves. I’m ready, we don’t deserve our societies.
“Labour is demanding the government bring in an injunction that would ban protests not only at oil terminals but also to stop them across Britain’s roads network.”
So not only will the ocean be a soup and the air poison by the end of the century, they want to ban protests at the scene of the crime.
Tbf if they’re gonna criminalise peaceful climate protest, maybe the peaceful thing needs to go. Global warming is going to kill tens of millions if not hundreds. This is violence.
Is it me or are Labour going back to sticking up for the common working class again ?
This is a terrible idea! Labour might actually have a winning chance in the next election, if they keep coming up with stupid ideas!
Labour are a joke. We need a new, real socialist party.
The right to protest fine ….. what you don’t have a right to is to seriously impinge on the day to day lives of everyone else, all that will happen is that you’ll piss off further those that disagree with you and also change the minds of those that were beginning to agree with you.
Labour are seeing that a majority of people disagree with this type of protest and trying to collect more support by saying this, it’s politics they all change their minds when there’s a chance of more votes in the offing.
I saw coverage of a similar blockade in the Netherlands people were just driving through these idiots whilst the police stood there and did nothing … that’s the way to handle it. 🤣
Because the government wants to take our freedom of speech.
Labour needs to become electable, so we get a non-tory government. it doesn’t matter if they adopt entirely tory policies in the process, because we still have a labour government.
Where do you draw the line for what you’re allowed to do as part of a protest? Things like insulate Britain shutting down major transport routes are really pushing it for me.
Keir Starmer, as you will probably already know, is a member of the trilateral comission. He is not on the side of anyone except the ultra wealthy. Labour is a meaningless sham.
Climate change will be solved by NUCLEAR FUSION reactors. There are several prototypes being built. It just needs more research funding.
There are no emissions at all and it will be safe.
The public needs to know about this.
Unfortunately peaceful protesting is a fundamental right. You can’t stop people protesting.
Think of all the money that has been wasted on track and trace and dodgy COVID contracts. Then think of all the money that could be made taxing the gigantic profits of energy companies (which contribute to climate change).
Put that money into catapulting the UK to a greener economy and get a headstart before absolutely every country is fighting for the same equipment and letting the price of these things soar.
There’s so many obvious things, and obviously must be easier said than done because we’re not doing it. That, or maybe the fucking idiots in charge for 12 years don’t actually care.
100% agree, this has effected the local community, it will have no effect on the government policy or oil companies.
This type of action is essentially holding the public to ransom where what is really needed is to. engage those people to. support change.
It’s also a stupid sentiment ‘Just stop oil’ as if it’s really that simple. But I guess slowly phase out oil for other alternatives doesn’t allow this kind of. demonstration as its too rational.
As much as want diesel back on the forecourts, banning demonstrations seems dangerous to me. Also why is Labour taking a position to the right of the Tories?
They’re right.
While we absolutely should be doing all we can to move from fossil fuel dependence; we’re in a crisis situation with fuel and heating oil, with prices being driven up to historic highs due to a shortage of supply due to a number of factors. Protestors blockading terminals and refineries are only going to make those supply issues worse and therefore increase prices.
Don’t forget this doesn’t only affect vehicle fuel, but people’s ability to heat their homes as well.
So again, absolutely, unequivocally agree that we need to completely move away from fossil fuel, however we haven’t yet, and these protests will make people’s fuel poverty even worse.
Labour are bang on message; the protestors need to read the fucking room with regard to their timing.
Ladies and gentlemen I present to you the Keith centrism.
It’s refreshing to see Labour taking electable positions rather than dying on every progressive hill.