France and Italy refuse to join Trump’s Ukraine weapons fund

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1. ***From The Telegraph:***

   France and Italy have refused to participate in [Donald Trump’s plan to send US-made weapons to Ukraine](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/07/15/republicans-turn-on-trump-over-10bn-ukraine-weapons-pledge/).

   Governments across Europe are pondering whether to take part in the $10bn initiative. It will involve Ukraine’s allies on the continent, along with Canada, buying “top of the range” weapons – including Patriot air defence systems – from Washington before giving them to Kyiv.

   But without the release of key details, some countries have yet to make a decision on whether to join the scheme, which was presented by [Mr Trump and Mark Rutte](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/15/frozen-russian-assets-to-pay-for-trump-ukraine-weapons/), the Nato secretary general, in the Oval Office on Monday.

   France has told allies it will not join the initiative, according to officials briefed on the discussions.

   **Read more:** [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/16/france-and-italy-refuse-to-join-trumps-ukraine-weapons-fund/](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/16/france-and-italy-refuse-to-join-trumps-ukraine-weapons-fund/)

2. Shows their seriousness in defending Ukraine

3. It is rather….I don’t know, humiliating from a European perspective having to line American pockets when Trump could just as easily send the weapons directly.

4. LOL. Of course, talk is cheap. Don’t send their weapon, don’t even buy others’ weapons. Europe is always good at doing speeches and sending strong worded letter.

5. This is because France is insisting on spending the money on European weapon systems instead. Which makes a lot of sense considering what’s been going on in the US in recent months.

   France and Italy have already sent SAMP/T to Ukraine and could provide more.

6. It’s ridiculous that the U.S. is not providing a discount, because it’s in the U.S.’s interest to see Putin fail. And it would help ensure everyone sticks with U.S. products.

7. How much talk and no walk from Europe. They have always been like that. Russia is closer to them, not to U.S., you know.

8. The only thing that can be read in the comments is an evident rift between Europe and the US. Trump’s goal has been achieved 

9. Say no to grifters and pedophiles.

10. It is paradoxical that a geopolitical expert does not know how to speak in geopolitical, economic and moral terms.
    Even reducing it to the simplest terms does not reduce the polarisation caused by *defaultism.
    Trump is not reliable. Not even on a commercial level, let alone on a geo-economic level.
    He is a threat.
    A narcissistic, mafia-like threat, with his adoration of Putin.
    Simple.
    France has said the right thing.
    Money should be spent where it yields a return and the return is reliable.
    The rest is nonsense from people who can’t read the numbers.

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