A microcosm of the issues with the Irish planning system – Buys a flat in temple bar, starts making noise complaints.

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1. [Source](https://www.instagram.com/stories/street66dublin/3678200151168915155?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=aHY2N2Z0NTU1eXFu) is Street 66’s Instagram story

2. I hope they can claim for costs, and I hope the flat owners never have a good nights sleep again.

3. Between this and the council not granting them planning permission for outdoor seating and instead putting in a bike rack, they’ve really been having a tough time the last few years. Delighted they’ve got the win on this one!

4. This shit has killed nightlife in London. When I lived there over ten years ago Soho was buzzing every night of the week, now everywhere is closed after 12.

   Don’t live in an area famous for its nightlife if you don’t want noise.

5. I remember all the people started moving to the countryside and complaining about the smell! Whoever was over the farmers at the time had to go on R.T.E. and tell people to stop complaining just cos u moved from the city!

6. If it’s a quiet night of sleep you enjoy (as I do), the rule of thumb of “don’t buy an apartment in Temple Bar” is one that most would file under The Bleedin’ Obvious.

7. I know people in Edinburgh who moved above a bar and complained so much that the bar had to reduce it’s opening hours and halt live music and karaoke.

   It was a complete shit hole mind you, but they knew what it was before they moved. People upstairs in a bar I worked on complained all time about noise, even when there was very little going on.

   If you don’t want any noise. Don’t buy a property above, or close to a bar.

8. I feel like the underlying issue isn’t being mentioned here: if there were enough flats available elsewhere, I doubt this person would’ve moved into the place above this pub.

   I’d say this is a supply and demand issue, not a zoning issue.

   Edit: Maybe I’m wrong. But it’s difficult to judge when you don’t know their side of the story.

9. I lived in a new build estate near the airport. Locals immediately began looking for ways to begin objecting to the second runway. They also started objecting to new developments in the area (already in the council master plan.)

   People are just self interested wankers.

10. Bigger issue with cases like this is solicitors taking them on a no win, no fee basis. Solicitors are given a free ride whenever bewildering cases of litigation are discussed.

    If individuals had the risk of having to actually pay the price for a defeated case they brought, a large portion would think twice.

11. Aye, folk buying gaffs along the railway line and complaining about train noise. Gobshites.

12. This is rampant – O’Donoghue’s owner bought the apartments behind Toners Garden with the sole purpose of using them to do the same. Allegedly.

    SOURCE: Was definitely not a barrister in that area if practice at the time

13. Nuisance claims aren’t a planning matter *per se*, likewise noise complaints.

14. This has nothing to do with planning law. It’s a microcosm of the misunderstanding of the Irish general public and planning and law, maybe….

15. This is not unique to Ireland.

16. Many of the residents above street 66 have owned their apartments in that building since the time when it was The Front Lounge and owned by Sherland Entertainment. There was never an issue with noise back then and that was a long time ago. The fact the Street 66 is operating on a club licence and not a bar licence is where the issue is. There is little to no sound proofing in the venue and they added a much louder sound system without talking to the residents. It’s the current owners and managers that have been the dicks in this situation that forced the apartment owners to take action . Knowing the area very well and a lot of those residents I do not think this will be last time this is in court.

    Looking forward to the downvotes!

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