Most of the students are to hungry to study properly! And with all the rising costs quiet soon most of the teachers will be as well.
* I am not trying to be funny or make a joke my comment is genuine.
So I used to do volunteer work with a local school group. We would help with UCAS forms for some volunteers to show they had experience of teaching.
I don’t think any of those people are still teaching. And that was before Covid!
I’ve always wanted to know what the accuracy of surveys like these turn out to be. I’m not saying it’s wrong but you hear stats like this year after year, but very rarely hear what actually ended up happening
They will have no problem getting jobs in industry, they have valuable skills the private sectors is desperate for.
Don’t worry, the Government will just pump more money into recruitment, and who needs retention.
I love being a Teacher but cuts to funding have made the job so incredibly difficult. Add to that the slow decline of society due to – yep – funding cuts – and it feels like our young people are being screwed over at every turn.
Am curious – all of these teachers wanting to quit by 2027 what do they plan to do instead? I feel some sympathy for teachers. No question that I would ever want to put up with the children and for that level of pay. However, there are plenty of other people working harder in crappier jobs for the same or less pay. My point is that I am guessing a lot of people who get these types of surveys are also always thinking of quitting but don’t because there are no better alternatives.
Give the extra workload to my wife. Seems to be her aim in life to work her full time hours plus another 40 on top for free. F**king brainwashing in schools goes unchallenged because “it’s good for the kids.”
I come from a family of teachers. My mum (a deputy headmistress) is currently off with PTSD due to violence in her school which she was hospitalised for – nothing was done about it. My sisters were both TAs (they’ve since quit). One was sexually assaulted (no action taken). The other was asked to teach classes and mark books with no extra pay – she was earning minimum wage.
I taught abroad for years and loved it. I’m now returning to the profession, working supply. I realised I couldn’t stand office work and it was making me unhappy. There’s virtually unlimited work available because of the staff shortage/stress.
I’m planning on going abroad again next year.
It’s an absolutely amazing profession that’s sadly under-valued in this country, both in terms of pay and pastoral care.
I personally don’t know a single teacher that has laster more than a decade in the job. Everyone I know who had taught left in that time, and the ones I know who are teaching are thinking of the best ways out. It is insane but totally understandable.
I have various friends and relatives who are teachers, and they say it gets worse every year. Surely more can be done. Not only would it benefit the exhausted teachers, but also the numerous kids who aren’t getting adequate attention to learn skills properly.
This story could have been from any year in the last what, 20 years? I see it again and again. Everyone knows teaching is not worth it for the money vs. Hours worked. That said, many (most?) Teachers once they have some experiencing hardly have to prepare much for their classes so it probably does become a cushy job really.
This number seems relatively low to me. I’m a teacher and it has taken a good few years to get ovet the ‘hump’ period at the beginning of my career by realising that I’m going to organise myself and do things my way to make sure I get enough time to do what I need. I work the holidays but it means I don’t have to work evenings, which I know many of my colleagues have to do.
There are roughly two types of teachers wanting to leave at the moment. Firstly, those new to the career who are still finding their feet and having the confidence to say no to extra workloads. This can take 10 years of your career to realise. Secondly, there are those who have been teaching for 15+ years who have seen too many changes enforced upon them and have lose enthusiasm for the job due to constraints.
Not only do we have loads leaving, we are struggling to recruit and train. Just look at the r/teachingUK to see how many people are struggling with their training.
I honestly think teachers make it way harder for themselves than necessary (not the individuals but the department of education). How is there not standardised lesson plans available for everyone to use?
Ways of marking that doesnt take up whole weekends?
Also hire some more bloody assistants to help with workload. Basically a little bit of investment in the right areas will make teachers and kids lives immeasurably better.
I always think about going back, then I remember the paperwork, the parents, the senior leadership/governors, the ridiculous hours etc. The behaviour of the kids is not even the top ten reasons as to why I left. Being a teacher can be awesome, the problem is that you are never left alone and are always being told what to do by people who have not taught for over a decade (if at all). Teachers needs to have autonomy again and to feel as valued as people claim we are.
I didn’t survive the PGCE year. Props to anyone who can do that job, it was borderline impossible.
Yep. My wife quit already. Teaching is supposed to be a vocation, not a lifestyle.
It’s insane.
I’m 20 years into a career and looking for a change. Looking into teaching.
The starting pay is abysmal. The hours are foolish. The requirements are unrealistic.
I can’t imagine why anyone would want to teach under these conditions?
Teachers are one of a small set of people who leave uni and seem to think they are picking a job for life. Sounds like a lot of pressure to put on yourself and the job.
Most people try out a few things or at least move around a bit to find what they like. Nothing wrong or unexpected about that. How many people realistically land in their dream forever job in their 20s really.
Public sector outside of govt looks a bit horrible right now. My mum’s a teacher and I’m halfway through med school. She’s very much pushing the idea of us both going to Dubai once I graduate because we’ll both be treated much much much better than we are/would be in the UK
The government seems to make cuts in the weirdest of places.
Teaching is a joke.
SLT and management are looking to jump ship for the next promotion and the schools are led by grifters.
The students are like cattle and behaviour has noticeably deteriorated.
The only focus is on final year students sitting their exams to ensure schools do as well as they can for local league tables.
The academy conversion set back education decades imo.
I’m training to become a teacher so, this article and others aren’t filling me with confidence.
The teachers and teaching unions didn’t do them selves any favours throughout Covid, it seemed like the last thing they were interested in was teaching and they just wanted to stay at home for as long as possible
Was 2 essays away from qualifying but turned away. Absolutely dreadful lifestyle and workload.
Things that have changed:
One must remember that teachers now are faced with groups of youth a considerable percentage of whom are neurally addicted to phones.
The collapse of the family and community, in general, is papered over ( badly ) by huge expenditure but teachers see the reality….unruly children who are badly fed, badly reared and badly behaved. Many indeed most teachers dislike many of their students and loathe the parents but won’t admit it because most teachers are nurturing women who feel awful about their true feelings but let me tell you go into any staff room at coffee break and be a fly on the wall…it would educate you.
Revealed preference shows us teachers leaving in droves and many only stay because they are institutionalised and fear the outside world.
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Most of the students are to hungry to study properly! And with all the rising costs quiet soon most of the teachers will be as well.
* I am not trying to be funny or make a joke my comment is genuine.
So I used to do volunteer work with a local school group. We would help with UCAS forms for some volunteers to show they had experience of teaching.
I don’t think any of those people are still teaching. And that was before Covid!
I’ve always wanted to know what the accuracy of surveys like these turn out to be. I’m not saying it’s wrong but you hear stats like this year after year, but very rarely hear what actually ended up happening
They will have no problem getting jobs in industry, they have valuable skills the private sectors is desperate for.
Don’t worry, the Government will just pump more money into recruitment, and who needs retention.
I love being a Teacher but cuts to funding have made the job so incredibly difficult. Add to that the slow decline of society due to – yep – funding cuts – and it feels like our young people are being screwed over at every turn.
Am curious – all of these teachers wanting to quit by 2027 what do they plan to do instead? I feel some sympathy for teachers. No question that I would ever want to put up with the children and for that level of pay. However, there are plenty of other people working harder in crappier jobs for the same or less pay. My point is that I am guessing a lot of people who get these types of surveys are also always thinking of quitting but don’t because there are no better alternatives.
Give the extra workload to my wife. Seems to be her aim in life to work her full time hours plus another 40 on top for free. F**king brainwashing in schools goes unchallenged because “it’s good for the kids.”
I come from a family of teachers. My mum (a deputy headmistress) is currently off with PTSD due to violence in her school which she was hospitalised for – nothing was done about it. My sisters were both TAs (they’ve since quit). One was sexually assaulted (no action taken). The other was asked to teach classes and mark books with no extra pay – she was earning minimum wage.
I taught abroad for years and loved it. I’m now returning to the profession, working supply. I realised I couldn’t stand office work and it was making me unhappy. There’s virtually unlimited work available because of the staff shortage/stress.
I’m planning on going abroad again next year.
It’s an absolutely amazing profession that’s sadly under-valued in this country, both in terms of pay and pastoral care.
I personally don’t know a single teacher that has laster more than a decade in the job. Everyone I know who had taught left in that time, and the ones I know who are teaching are thinking of the best ways out. It is insane but totally understandable.
I have various friends and relatives who are teachers, and they say it gets worse every year. Surely more can be done. Not only would it benefit the exhausted teachers, but also the numerous kids who aren’t getting adequate attention to learn skills properly.
This story could have been from any year in the last what, 20 years? I see it again and again. Everyone knows teaching is not worth it for the money vs. Hours worked. That said, many (most?) Teachers once they have some experiencing hardly have to prepare much for their classes so it probably does become a cushy job really.
This number seems relatively low to me. I’m a teacher and it has taken a good few years to get ovet the ‘hump’ period at the beginning of my career by realising that I’m going to organise myself and do things my way to make sure I get enough time to do what I need. I work the holidays but it means I don’t have to work evenings, which I know many of my colleagues have to do.
There are roughly two types of teachers wanting to leave at the moment. Firstly, those new to the career who are still finding their feet and having the confidence to say no to extra workloads. This can take 10 years of your career to realise. Secondly, there are those who have been teaching for 15+ years who have seen too many changes enforced upon them and have lose enthusiasm for the job due to constraints.
Not only do we have loads leaving, we are struggling to recruit and train. Just look at the r/teachingUK to see how many people are struggling with their training.
I honestly think teachers make it way harder for themselves than necessary (not the individuals but the department of education). How is there not standardised lesson plans available for everyone to use?
Ways of marking that doesnt take up whole weekends?
Also hire some more bloody assistants to help with workload. Basically a little bit of investment in the right areas will make teachers and kids lives immeasurably better.
I always think about going back, then I remember the paperwork, the parents, the senior leadership/governors, the ridiculous hours etc. The behaviour of the kids is not even the top ten reasons as to why I left. Being a teacher can be awesome, the problem is that you are never left alone and are always being told what to do by people who have not taught for over a decade (if at all). Teachers needs to have autonomy again and to feel as valued as people claim we are.
I didn’t survive the PGCE year. Props to anyone who can do that job, it was borderline impossible.
Yep. My wife quit already. Teaching is supposed to be a vocation, not a lifestyle.
It’s insane.
I’m 20 years into a career and looking for a change. Looking into teaching.
The starting pay is abysmal. The hours are foolish. The requirements are unrealistic.
I can’t imagine why anyone would want to teach under these conditions?
Teachers are one of a small set of people who leave uni and seem to think they are picking a job for life. Sounds like a lot of pressure to put on yourself and the job.
Most people try out a few things or at least move around a bit to find what they like. Nothing wrong or unexpected about that. How many people realistically land in their dream forever job in their 20s really.
Public sector outside of govt looks a bit horrible right now. My mum’s a teacher and I’m halfway through med school. She’s very much pushing the idea of us both going to Dubai once I graduate because we’ll both be treated much much much better than we are/would be in the UK
The government seems to make cuts in the weirdest of places.
Teaching is a joke.
SLT and management are looking to jump ship for the next promotion and the schools are led by grifters.
The students are like cattle and behaviour has noticeably deteriorated.
The only focus is on final year students sitting their exams to ensure schools do as well as they can for local league tables.
The academy conversion set back education decades imo.
I’m training to become a teacher so, this article and others aren’t filling me with confidence.
The teachers and teaching unions didn’t do them selves any favours throughout Covid, it seemed like the last thing they were interested in was teaching and they just wanted to stay at home for as long as possible
Was 2 essays away from qualifying but turned away. Absolutely dreadful lifestyle and workload.
Things that have changed:
One must remember that teachers now are faced with groups of youth a considerable percentage of whom are neurally addicted to phones.
The collapse of the family and community, in general, is papered over ( badly ) by huge expenditure but teachers see the reality….unruly children who are badly fed, badly reared and badly behaved. Many indeed most teachers dislike many of their students and loathe the parents but won’t admit it because most teachers are nurturing women who feel awful about their true feelings but let me tell you go into any staff room at coffee break and be a fly on the wall…it would educate you.
Revealed preference shows us teachers leaving in droves and many only stay because they are institutionalised and fear the outside world.