A very large commercial food supplier used to import chicken breasts from Vietnam, through the Netherlands. Once they had ‘processed’ the chicken breasts in the Netherlands they would claim EU origin I’m glad if this practice is beginning to slow
Also, the UK is experiencing issues with bird flu (not to say Ireland isn’t, just we’ve got less of a problem)
If anyone could help me find out where this chicken is actually from I’d greatly appreciate it as it’s wrecking my head, I’ve tried reading all over the packaging and googling it but can’t find anything
When I worked in McDonald’s they told me all the chicken came from the UK. The UK must export a lot of poultry!
enjoy your china chicken
A battery hen is a battery hen no matter where it comes from.
Yes, apparently.
>Is it really that much more expensive to just use ethical Irish goods?
Yea, I’d easily imagine it being twice the price.
The vegetables are processed in killinchy Northern Ireland. I worked there when I was younger and watched a boy kick a tub of coleslaw over the floor of the factory then scoop it back in for shipping off to those guys.
I left after seeing that
An organic free range Irish chicken typically costs €10-€15, so 2 or 3 times more expensive than a standard Irish battery bird and maybe 5 times as expensive as a cheap imported one. Are you willing to pay 5x the price for your wrap?
Tbh they are shit enough wraps, you barely get any grub in the them
If you keep buying it they will keep selling it.
Yes. The chicken in that lived and died like shit.
Those raps are awful, makes me feel sick thinking about them
Salmonella is all the rage apparently.
Probably, but only due to the rules and regulations that EU and Ireland has around that kind of thing, that outside of EU isn’t really a thing. Had they enforced similar standards, the price would increase. If you take into account the amount of CO2 released due to travel around the fucking globe to deliver that stuff, well, then it would quickly become unviable.
Us looking through fingers at all these externalities and where that stuff comes from for the sake of a cheaper fillet roll, well, we play stupid games, we win stupid prizes and we are yet to win the biggest one.
I’ve worked in a Bacon and Sausage factory here that also handled some chicken, all of which came from Thailand
Why don’t you just make your own? That way you don’t have the ethical question. But to be honest chicken isn’t the most ethical no matter where it comes from, you just assume the conditions are better because it is produced in Ireland.
You will be tasting that wrap on your breath all day long and I mean all day long
Do a burp at 8pm and you will still taste it, the gift that keeps on giving
Ah, the good old chicken debate. I have looked pretty extensively into the production chains there (I’m now keeping chickens).
Frozen chicken comes exclusively from Southeast Asia and Brazil, where the standards for bird housing and feed are non existant and the processing is much cheaper cause the average pay for workers is very low.
Even factoring in shipping, you’ll end up with much, much lower prices than you would here, where different standards exist, workers need insurance and a minimum wage and a lot of substances are illegal to give to animals intended to be eaten (various antibiotics and steroids, bonemeal protein feed).
There is a very high likelihood that any chicken you’ll find in a prepacked sandwich is bought frozen, cause that means it keeps for much longer and the chain of production is much less time sensitive. Fresh chicken needs to reach the consumer on day 7 to 10 after processing, so you’d have to get it in, cook the stuff, make the sandwich, get it to the shop and have the consumer buy it in that time frame.
If you rely on ready cooked, it’s going to cut out all that food safety business that comes with processing raw chicken, so the someone assembling your sandwich does not need to worry about core temperature and all that business either.
Meaning: shit gets cooked straight out of the production line somewhere in Asia, frozen after and on its way around the world it goes.
Price in bulk: cents per breast. So yes, absolutely worth it for the company to do if they get away with it. The reason they get away with it is consumers buy it. Restaurants buy it and sell it on to consumers.
Same people on here complaining about the cost of a chicken fillet roll also complaining about imported ingredients.
Family have a spar, switched to higher quality Irish breaded chicken breasts, price rose as expected, people complained and gave out, had to revert.
I know this is gonna get downvoted like hell but – ethical != animal products.
Not to get too up on a soapbox here, but stuff like this is a large part of the reason I am a vegetarian. Aside from the pure ethics of killing animals, it is quite difficult to find meat that has been produced ethically, sustainably, and to a safe standard.
Unethically sourced meat, industrial meat farms, as well as topics like the horsemeat scandal, make it hard to eat meat with any kind of confidence that what you’re eating isn’t contributing to the misery of animals, nor climate change.
IMHO a good place to start is to stop eating meat that has dodgy labelling like “Non EU meat”, or is too cheap to be plausibly ethical. Eat meat from your butcher or from decently farmed meat in supermarkets. It’ll be more expensive – It’s not going to be €5 for 6 chicken fillets, but then again should it be?
I wasn’t aware there’s any ethical way to kill something that doesn’t want to die.
You get what you pay for
Nothing ethical about killing animals nó matter what continent.
fuck off with your “ethical” corpses and cop on
Lol ‘ethical’. Also you’re the one buying it pal
If you’re worried about the ethics, don’t buy meat.
This is the reality of our economic system. It requires people be taken advantage of. So, as our laws surrounding labour improve certain industries can not survive here, as they can no longer be profitable. They rely on the exploitation of others in poorer countries. If you’re not a fan of this like me, shop at your local butchers and farmers market if you can afford to. The food you’ll get will be a million times nicer, fresher and exploitation free!
What exactly is ethical about eating chicken?
Think of it this way if you produce 1,000 chicken rolls/wraps a day and you save 1 cent by importing that’s €10 a day. That’s €3,650 a year and you can imagine the scale in which chicken is being imported for rolls/wraps in Ireland.
Don’t kid yourself that chicken produced in Ireland is “ethical.”
You can dress it up however you like but there’s no such thing as ethical meat. Chickens are treated like shit wether you’re in Ireland, the UK, Asia or anywhere else. You’re either alright with the suffering and eventual slaughter of animals for your food and other products, or you’re not. I’m not here to make moral judgements, wether or not you can square that circle in your own head is up to you and how much moral weight the life and comfort of an animal holds to you. Or just click downvote and move on, makes very little difference to me.
Irish goods aren’t automatically ethical… EU standards are better than most of the world but they are far from ethical
A lot of “Made in Ireland” Chicken comes from abroad due to shitty labelling laws
Non-EU chicken still tastes like chicken. Every chicken in every Irish supermarket tastes like boiled rolled up paper towels. They could however use a carton tray and get rid of that plastic shite.
Nothing ethical about chicken broilers , have a look on YouTube how they are raised, the best thing in their lives is when ends.
Ethical!
What on earth is seasoned wayo?
This usually means it’s from a Chinese factory farm that meets “EU standards”. They’ll keep selling it if you keep buying it.
What makes local slaughter ethical? 🤔
The frozen chicken label in Aldi is gas. “Made from EU and non EU chicken”. So somewhere on the planet then, great.
Be interesting to know if it’s chlorinated chicken, like they do in ‘Murica. That’s banned in the EU and UK.
It’s cute that you think cheap Irish chicken is ethical..
Nothing ethical about chicken no matter what way you look at it lol
47 comments
Chicken is probably from the UK if I had to guess
Was it British chicken?
A very large commercial food supplier used to import chicken breasts from Vietnam, through the Netherlands. Once they had ‘processed’ the chicken breasts in the Netherlands they would claim EU origin I’m glad if this practice is beginning to slow
Also, the UK is experiencing issues with bird flu (not to say Ireland isn’t, just we’ve got less of a problem)
If anyone could help me find out where this chicken is actually from I’d greatly appreciate it as it’s wrecking my head, I’ve tried reading all over the packaging and googling it but can’t find anything
When I worked in McDonald’s they told me all the chicken came from the UK. The UK must export a lot of poultry!
enjoy your china chicken
A battery hen is a battery hen no matter where it comes from.
Yes, apparently.
>Is it really that much more expensive to just use ethical Irish goods?
Yea, I’d easily imagine it being twice the price.
The vegetables are processed in killinchy Northern Ireland. I worked there when I was younger and watched a boy kick a tub of coleslaw over the floor of the factory then scoop it back in for shipping off to those guys.
I left after seeing that
An organic free range Irish chicken typically costs €10-€15, so 2 or 3 times more expensive than a standard Irish battery bird and maybe 5 times as expensive as a cheap imported one. Are you willing to pay 5x the price for your wrap?
Tbh they are shit enough wraps, you barely get any grub in the them
If you keep buying it they will keep selling it.
Yes. The chicken in that lived and died like shit.
Those raps are awful, makes me feel sick thinking about them
Salmonella is all the rage apparently.
Probably, but only due to the rules and regulations that EU and Ireland has around that kind of thing, that outside of EU isn’t really a thing. Had they enforced similar standards, the price would increase. If you take into account the amount of CO2 released due to travel around the fucking globe to deliver that stuff, well, then it would quickly become unviable.
Us looking through fingers at all these externalities and where that stuff comes from for the sake of a cheaper fillet roll, well, we play stupid games, we win stupid prizes and we are yet to win the biggest one.
I’ve worked in a Bacon and Sausage factory here that also handled some chicken, all of which came from Thailand
Why don’t you just make your own? That way you don’t have the ethical question. But to be honest chicken isn’t the most ethical no matter where it comes from, you just assume the conditions are better because it is produced in Ireland.
You will be tasting that wrap on your breath all day long and I mean all day long
Do a burp at 8pm and you will still taste it, the gift that keeps on giving
Ah, the good old chicken debate. I have looked pretty extensively into the production chains there (I’m now keeping chickens).
Frozen chicken comes exclusively from Southeast Asia and Brazil, where the standards for bird housing and feed are non existant and the processing is much cheaper cause the average pay for workers is very low.
Even factoring in shipping, you’ll end up with much, much lower prices than you would here, where different standards exist, workers need insurance and a minimum wage and a lot of substances are illegal to give to animals intended to be eaten (various antibiotics and steroids, bonemeal protein feed).
There is a very high likelihood that any chicken you’ll find in a prepacked sandwich is bought frozen, cause that means it keeps for much longer and the chain of production is much less time sensitive. Fresh chicken needs to reach the consumer on day 7 to 10 after processing, so you’d have to get it in, cook the stuff, make the sandwich, get it to the shop and have the consumer buy it in that time frame.
If you rely on ready cooked, it’s going to cut out all that food safety business that comes with processing raw chicken, so the someone assembling your sandwich does not need to worry about core temperature and all that business either.
Meaning: shit gets cooked straight out of the production line somewhere in Asia, frozen after and on its way around the world it goes.
Price in bulk: cents per breast. So yes, absolutely worth it for the company to do if they get away with it. The reason they get away with it is consumers buy it. Restaurants buy it and sell it on to consumers.
Same people on here complaining about the cost of a chicken fillet roll also complaining about imported ingredients.
Family have a spar, switched to higher quality Irish breaded chicken breasts, price rose as expected, people complained and gave out, had to revert.
I know this is gonna get downvoted like hell but – ethical != animal products.
Not to get too up on a soapbox here, but stuff like this is a large part of the reason I am a vegetarian. Aside from the pure ethics of killing animals, it is quite difficult to find meat that has been produced ethically, sustainably, and to a safe standard.
Unethically sourced meat, industrial meat farms, as well as topics like the horsemeat scandal, make it hard to eat meat with any kind of confidence that what you’re eating isn’t contributing to the misery of animals, nor climate change.
IMHO a good place to start is to stop eating meat that has dodgy labelling like “Non EU meat”, or is too cheap to be plausibly ethical. Eat meat from your butcher or from decently farmed meat in supermarkets. It’ll be more expensive – It’s not going to be €5 for 6 chicken fillets, but then again should it be?
I wasn’t aware there’s any ethical way to kill something that doesn’t want to die.
You get what you pay for
Nothing ethical about killing animals nó matter what continent.
fuck off with your “ethical” corpses and cop on
Lol ‘ethical’. Also you’re the one buying it pal
If you’re worried about the ethics, don’t buy meat.
This is the reality of our economic system. It requires people be taken advantage of. So, as our laws surrounding labour improve certain industries can not survive here, as they can no longer be profitable. They rely on the exploitation of others in poorer countries. If you’re not a fan of this like me, shop at your local butchers and farmers market if you can afford to. The food you’ll get will be a million times nicer, fresher and exploitation free!
What exactly is ethical about eating chicken?
Think of it this way if you produce 1,000 chicken rolls/wraps a day and you save 1 cent by importing that’s €10 a day. That’s €3,650 a year and you can imagine the scale in which chicken is being imported for rolls/wraps in Ireland.
Don’t kid yourself that chicken produced in Ireland is “ethical.”
You can dress it up however you like but there’s no such thing as ethical meat. Chickens are treated like shit wether you’re in Ireland, the UK, Asia or anywhere else. You’re either alright with the suffering and eventual slaughter of animals for your food and other products, or you’re not. I’m not here to make moral judgements, wether or not you can square that circle in your own head is up to you and how much moral weight the life and comfort of an animal holds to you. Or just click downvote and move on, makes very little difference to me.
Irish goods aren’t automatically ethical… EU standards are better than most of the world but they are far from ethical
A lot of “Made in Ireland” Chicken comes from abroad due to shitty labelling laws
https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/agri-business/agri-food/ding-dong-over-denny-chicken-thats-made-in-wicklow-but-hails-from-brazil-37779242.html
Non-EU chicken still tastes like chicken. Every chicken in every Irish supermarket tastes like boiled rolled up paper towels. They could however use a carton tray and get rid of that plastic shite.
Nothing ethical about chicken broilers , have a look on YouTube how they are raised, the best thing in their lives is when ends.
Ethical!
What on earth is seasoned wayo?
This usually means it’s from a Chinese factory farm that meets “EU standards”. They’ll keep selling it if you keep buying it.
What makes local slaughter ethical? 🤔
The frozen chicken label in Aldi is gas. “Made from EU and non EU chicken”. So somewhere on the planet then, great.
Be interesting to know if it’s chlorinated chicken, like they do in ‘Murica. That’s banned in the EU and UK.
It’s cute that you think cheap Irish chicken is ethical..
Nothing ethical about chicken no matter what way you look at it lol