good idea but there is not enough staff to enforce it
Not high enough, but a step in the right direction.
Wait until you see the fines in Australia, particularly Victoria….
My friend got $680 (about 400eu) for accidentally running a red light by 0.8 seconds, and $220 for going 107km in a 100 zone
He also got a $680 fine for his car being unregistered. It was 1 day past his 12 month expiry
Parking fines here usually start at about $140. Not ones that cause safety issues, not sure what they are. In a 2 hour zone for 2 hours 15? $140
I personally got an $850 fine for disorderly conduct. What did I do? Fought back when some drunk assholes started a fight and one grabbed my throat. Did it matter that there was footage of them starting the fight? Nope, as its a fine, not a criminal offense.
This infographic is vague, especially with the speeding. The fine changes the faster you are and is already raised in the lower areas, as well as lowering the threshold of how fast is considered a crime.
What I am saying is though: drive savely, it’s going to cost you and in worst case third parties.
Good.
Next step: income dependent fines. Those really hurt everybody equally.
That one time I was caught by a speeding camera when I missed the speed limit dropping from 100 to 80 and I was a good 25km/h over the limit… good times. Wondering for weeks how many hundred euro that one is gonna be.
Good thing that I got “geblitzt” last week before the rates were changed 😀
I went slightly under 40 kph were 30 kph were allowed..
Wow, those fines were so low. I guess drivers in Germany used to take the driving code on their honour before. The new ones are barely matching the minimum fines back in my hone country.
Does Germany not use a warning points system? Or is it that the inforgraphic just didn’t include them?
Things you can do if you are rich
It is therefore worse or more expensive to park on a cycle path than in a disabled parking space. That says a lot about cyclists.
So can we finally expect this shitty wedding rides to be fined?
I drove in Ontario (Canada) some years ago, and you couldn’t miss the big signs: 50 km/h over the limit was a $10,000 fine, and you could kiss your car goodbye.
So long as these are static amounts rather than proportional to income, they’ll always be effective punishments only for poorer people. If you’re rich enough, you still don’t need to give a shit about any of this.
im fucking puking, disgusting
>Improper use of sidewalks, cycle paths and hard shoulders
What is the proper way to use a car on a cycle path?
Thanks for sharing!
Looking forward to police not doing anything about delivery trucks parked in the bike lane, just like before.
What’s the thing with the failure to create an escape route? What is that?
If you are with your car all the way to the left you move to the left. All lanes that are not all the way to the left move to the right
I admit I prefer the Swiss model where fines are dependent on your income. I know enough people who would not worry much about having to pay a EUR 100 fine every other month or so.
Business is booming
Good, we should try to get rid of cars all together. Germany needs to be even more bike friendly, cars are not needed in major city. Improve roads, side walks and public transport.
I don’t like this.
I mean: it’s good to fine those things but this should not punish people with low income more than other.
You have 450€/month income? How should you pay a fine like this?
You make 10000€/month? Why should you even try to find a valid parking space, it’s just peanuts!
The fines should be relative to your income. It should hurt but not cripple! Absolute fines are BS!
“improper use of sidewalks, cycle paths” :- what does this mean, is it for cyclists too. and BTW where can i find the rulebook for cyclists.
What is it with Germans and November 9th?
Is that law legal this time?
I love the fine for failure to create an escape route.
Ich finds einfach toll, dass Leute, die keine Rettungsgasse bilden, endlich eine Strafe bekommen.
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good idea but there is not enough staff to enforce it
Not high enough, but a step in the right direction.
Wait until you see the fines in Australia, particularly Victoria….
My friend got $680 (about 400eu) for accidentally running a red light by 0.8 seconds, and $220 for going 107km in a 100 zone
He also got a $680 fine for his car being unregistered. It was 1 day past his 12 month expiry
Parking fines here usually start at about $140. Not ones that cause safety issues, not sure what they are. In a 2 hour zone for 2 hours 15? $140
I personally got an $850 fine for disorderly conduct. What did I do? Fought back when some drunk assholes started a fight and one grabbed my throat. Did it matter that there was footage of them starting the fight? Nope, as its a fine, not a criminal offense.
This infographic is vague, especially with the speeding. The fine changes the faster you are and is already raised in the lower areas, as well as lowering the threshold of how fast is considered a crime.
What I am saying is though: drive savely, it’s going to cost you and in worst case third parties.
Good.
Next step: income dependent fines. Those really hurt everybody equally.
That one time I was caught by a speeding camera when I missed the speed limit dropping from 100 to 80 and I was a good 25km/h over the limit… good times. Wondering for weeks how many hundred euro that one is gonna be.
Good thing that I got “geblitzt” last week before the rates were changed 😀
I went slightly under 40 kph were 30 kph were allowed..
Wow, those fines were so low. I guess drivers in Germany used to take the driving code on their honour before. The new ones are barely matching the minimum fines back in my hone country.
Does Germany not use a warning points system? Or is it that the inforgraphic just didn’t include them?
Things you can do if you are rich
It is therefore worse or more expensive to park on a cycle path than in a disabled parking space. That says a lot about cyclists.
So can we finally expect this shitty wedding rides to be fined?
I drove in Ontario (Canada) some years ago, and you couldn’t miss the big signs: 50 km/h over the limit was a $10,000 fine, and you could kiss your car goodbye.
So long as these are static amounts rather than proportional to income, they’ll always be effective punishments only for poorer people. If you’re rich enough, you still don’t need to give a shit about any of this.
im fucking puking, disgusting
>Improper use of sidewalks, cycle paths and hard shoulders
What is the proper way to use a car on a cycle path?
Thanks for sharing!
Looking forward to police not doing anything about delivery trucks parked in the bike lane, just like before.
What’s the thing with the failure to create an escape route? What is that?
If you are with your car all the way to the left you move to the left. All lanes that are not all the way to the left move to the right
I admit I prefer the Swiss model where fines are dependent on your income. I know enough people who would not worry much about having to pay a EUR 100 fine every other month or so.
Business is booming
Good, we should try to get rid of cars all together. Germany needs to be even more bike friendly, cars are not needed in major city. Improve roads, side walks and public transport.
I don’t like this.
I mean: it’s good to fine those things but this should not punish people with low income more than other.
You have 450€/month income? How should you pay a fine like this?
You make 10000€/month? Why should you even try to find a valid parking space, it’s just peanuts!
The fines should be relative to your income. It should hurt but not cripple! Absolute fines are BS!
“improper use of sidewalks, cycle paths” :- what does this mean, is it for cyclists too. and BTW where can i find the rulebook for cyclists.
What is it with Germans and November 9th?
Is that law legal this time?
I love the fine for failure to create an escape route.
Ich finds einfach toll, dass Leute, die keine Rettungsgasse bilden, endlich eine Strafe bekommen.