Because we see older relatives read the Daily Mail and say whatever bollocks it’s written this week
When you’ve basically lost every election or referendum you’ve ever voted in, this unfortunately isn’t exactly surprising.
Because many of us have tried to secure jobs during economic down turns. Too young to be taken seriously too old for apprenticeships.
Its frustrating as hell if you don’t get into the right line of work from the get go.
Except for when “Young people turned out to vote in the 2017 UK general election in greater numbers than at any other point for 25 years, according to new analysis by Ipsos MORI.”
[Some 64 per cent of registered voters aged 18-24 are now thought to have cast a vote on 9 June, the highest share since 67 per cent voted in 1992.](https://archive.ph/JTDfW)
Unfortunately, those most dissatisfied are the least likely to go and make the change by voting.
The best way to change and renew the democracy and democratic process is by using the strongest tool it grants to its participants: voting.
If there is no one to vote for, forming a new party that aligns with your and your peer’s views is the next step up in the process. Current right wing and ultra nationalist parties are living example that the “old guard” can be shaken to the core and even dethroned when there is a will.
When there is a will, there is a way.
Lost every single election or referendum I’ve voted in… And watched boomers believe every single lie told on the Daily Mail and BBC
Personally I lost faith in the UK due to the reaction the day after the Scottish Indy referendum in 2014.
Only really been repeatedly confirmed since then.
Can you blame us democracy in this country not only doesn’t go far enough in our everyday working lives but the little we have is being taken advantage of by bullshittery misinformationists and class warfare gaslighting lousy cunts and they know what there doing it isn’t negligence it’s completely intentional.
“Democracy” relies on people making informed choices, which they are most certainly not when it comes to voting these days.
Lies, propaganda and misinformation are key weapons of any right wing political party, and are especially effective in this digital age where people rely on social media to get their “news” and “facts”.
Lack of critical thinking and pure spite by voters in some cases is why the Tories continue with their stranglehold on the UK.
Divide and conquer is working a treat.
Isn’t this more a case of only liking or having faith in democracy when it gives you the ‘right’ result?
I’m 40 and have a dramatic loss of faith in UK democracy, the money rules us really.
In other news. “The starving dog stopped begging from the family that throws stones”.
Unfortunately I’ve lost any sympathy for anyone currently struggling under the current government they have consistently voted in.
To say there’s been a few red flags with the current Tory government over the past few years is an understatement. Rishi’s current nightmare would’ve been enough gossip for one term but nope. You’ve got Dominic Cummings’ COVID breaking rules, Priti Patel making refugees lives misery, Boris Johnson basically never able to tell the truth on anything etc.
It’s just bullshit after bullshit after bullshit and the sad thing is, it was all present before the last general election. But of course, no one can think outside of what they’re told in The Sun or on their local Facebook group to make decisions so of course Jeremy Corbyn was a Nazi sympathiser. Why? Don’t know. The paper with the big words told me he was!
Honestly, I feel so fucking sorry for the people who are going to be homeless or dead who didn’t ask for any of this to happen. But if you have consistently voted for a government that has done nothing but made your life worse? Good fucking riddance to you.
Been on the ‘wrong side’ of literally everything I’ve been eligible to vote in* since I was old enough to vote. Of course I have no faith in UK democracy. I do not feel represented at all, and representation is literally the point.
* Except for the recent libdem win in Shropshire, but let’s be honest, that is definitely going to flip straight back at the next election.
I honestly don’t consider FPTP to even be a democracy. It feels like we live in a country where the older generation have been beaten into accepting “the way things work” that the idea of change is so scary to them it will never even be considered.
We also need to address our huge issues with technical and research literacy. The simple fact of the matter is that liars win elections, because a large group of the population take what they say at face value.
We have FPTP, if you’re young in a conservative area (the demographics skew older) then there is literally no point in you voting because your vote is wasted. You’ll get 0 representation.
We will be picking up the pieces of Boris Johnson’s despicable, contemptible Prime Ministership for the next forty years – if we ever recover from it at all.
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He has shifted the Overton window so far that even a full four year Keir Starmer government is barely going to make a dent
I’m one such young adult.
I have voted in every general election, local election and referendum that I’ve been eligible to vote in since 2010 when I became old enough to legally vote. I have always been on the losing side in some way.
At this point I’m honestly less worried about fellow millennials and zoomers refusing to vote, and more about my generation increasingly turning towards civil disobedience and violence. The scenes in Swansea and Bristol last year should honestly be taken as a warning sign of what’s to come if the government doesn’t change its ways.
Because weve lost every election since weve been able to vote because of the coffin dodgers voting for things to just become worse and worse cuz immigrants.
It’s what happens when every single major institution including the media and politicians claiming to represent the interests of working class people conspire to steal our futures from right under our noses. All so that a small group of rotting corpses in suits can buy their second yachts, this is the result.
Actions, meet consequences.
Every vote I’ve ever cast in this country, from local to national, has effectively gone in the bin, my vote has never made a difference.
The only time it ever counted and made a distance was the European elections.
I still vote, it’s my civic duty etc, but I’ve not gone into a polling booth and felt this is going to make a difference.
Living in a solid Tory safe seat with a brainless stooge for an MP will do that to you
Personally I’m not losing faith in democracy I’m losing faith of the politicians who are elected through that democracy because they are all the same slimy, corrupt, ignore the rules people.
It’s because the British public are idiots and forget about all the crap the Tories do to us by the next election. It’s an endless cycle of shit being thrown at us and we keep voting for it.
‘dramatic loss’
Is hard when I didn’t have any faith to begin with
Been let down since 2010 and got hit with the treble university fees, Brexit and callous government since .
I’ve got faith in democracy I don’t have faith in the electorate
It’s not democracy, it’s “who can spend the most money on making themselves look good in the media”. Parties target fence sitting voters and barrage them with Facebook ads and articles and whatever and it 100% results in changes in voting habits. You can pretty much just buy votes, it’s just a matter of how much money you throw at marketing yourself as less shit than the other people.
Plus we had the ridiculous situation that led to the coalition where the deciding factor on who would end up in power came down to backroom deals between parties trying to get the numbers to form a majority government. We could’ve had a labour/lib/other government if Labour bribed parties like the SNP, DUP etc but instead got Con/Lib. What the fuck is that? How is that democratic?
Then you’ve got FPTP voting, massive imbalance in voting power dependent on whether you’re in a swing constituency or not, whether you’re in a large or small population constituency and then the issue of the media in the UK largely being a Tory mouthpiece due to Murdoch and the rest. Even the BBC is super guilty of favouring the Tories – just look at Lauren Kuensberg, who was borderline Boris Johnsons unofficial press secretary.
And even when democracy does work it’s just the tyranny of the largest minority, unless you’re dealing with direct democracy like in anarchism.
I also think with the climate crisis, housing crisis, cost of living crisis, fuel crisis and the impact of Brexit people are just focusing on trying to get by and have little time or energy to engage in politics. We are a downtrodden nation and we’ve largely given up any hope of things ever getting better.
So overall, no fucking surprise that young people have little faith in this countries bullshit “democracy”.
Doesn’t matter who you vote for in this country, its gonna be shit. Everyone lies. They are all corrupt.
Maybe if PM would stop lying to our faces at every single step and ignoring the rules he creates… I guess those were for everyone else anyway!
It’s actually pretty irrelevant whether young people vote or not. We have an aging population. Our vote is outnumbered because our parents’ generation didn’t fuck enough.
It’s not just young adults, I’m fucking 30, I lost faith when they kettled students in 2010. Nobody trusts you anymore.
Democracy is an illusion in young people’s eyes, we have never been listened to so what is a ‘democracy’ exactly because the uk certainly doesn’t fit the description
The media assassination of Jeremy Corbyn and the dirty tricks the Tories and their media friends played showed alot about the elite establishment mentality of politics.
When it’s ran by a bunch of old guys who know each other, or billionaires who are foreign citizens, that’s not a democracy, that’s basically an oligarchy. So why is it surprising?
Lets be real.
The representative system is not democracy. Switzerland is a real democracy. What we have is and always has been a stitch up for the moneyed class.
The UK has acted like the “Two wolves and a sheep voting on diner” model of democracy for about a decade now. Of course people start to question it.
While I don’t disagree with the sentiment of the article, the data is poorly interpreted and even more poorly presented.
If there is a “dramatic loss” where is the benchmark? I don’t see any historical data that this compares to. They make vague reference to the 70s.
On the whole, the use of this study to support the article is poor and suggestive of confirmation bias on the part of the author. There is no comparative data to be drawing these conclusions from apart from “general historical sentiment” that isn’t backed up by comparable data.
To be clear, I’m not disagreeing with the conclusions, its just poor execution. This is the sort of thing senior politicians would tear apart if it was presented to them – poor interpretation and presentation makes it easy to ignore important information.
Democracy, lmfao, they’d have us back in work houses if they could
I mean, they’ve pretty much fucked my generation.
The next 2 generations have no chance. At this rate there won’t be a third one.
Not much of democracy when the people in charge can get away with lying constantly one rule for them and another for the rest of us. Should have been arrested by now, that’s how bad this government is but its like their untouchable
It is kinda hard taking a PM seriously that rambles incoherent shit about peppa pig on stage…
Young adults have a dramatically accurate view of put society it seems…
Nick Clegg should be a meme. Led the third party (Educated at Westminster and Cambridge). Given the opportunity, on a split electoral vote, to change voting history. Caved. Completely caved. Next you know, there he is being a cunt.
Had no faith in democracy when I was in my 20’s in the 90s. Shits just got worse. Nothings changed
Having fptp is not a proper democracy. You need to get rid of it and some sense will return.
Because no matter what you do, it doesn’t matter. Only one man decides who is in government and his name is Rupert Murdoch.
Reading the comments, there are so many that are “lost every election I voted in”. I think that is the fundamental problem. With FPTP it is seen in terms of winning and losing. We need to get rid of it and move to PR so that everyone’s voice is heard and is fairly represented.
We need electoral reform.
And a long hard investigation of corruption throughout our institutions. Personally I’d start with Eton, but there’s probably a more palatable way to do it.
I think my gen (20s) had little faith and were starting to understand the importance of scrapping FPTP and now the new youth will add to that.
It makes sense, we don’t have a proportionately representative system so it’s quite demoralising when you see that breakdown.
For example in the last UK election the majority of voters voted for a party that wanted to hold a second EU referendum. 52% of voters voted for a party that wanted a second referendum.
And yet what we got was a single party that got 44% of the vote and got 56% of the seats for it. So that issue had to be dealt with their way.
When even the majority agree with you and that’s not enough; it’s no surprise that people feel disenfranchised.
We’re in a situation where the Conservatives got a seat for every 38,304 votes while the Greens got a seat for every 857,513 votes.
This isn’t fair.
I have seen young people say they can’t wait until the older generation dies out. It sounds harsh but I can see why they are frustrated that their destiny is being driven by a generation that don’t share their views and won’t be around to deal with the long term consequences.
I don’t feel most peoples prospects in the UK have improved over the last decade. Things are tough for many people and are only going to get worst in the near future.
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Because we see older relatives read the Daily Mail and say whatever bollocks it’s written this week
When you’ve basically lost every election or referendum you’ve ever voted in, this unfortunately isn’t exactly surprising.
Because many of us have tried to secure jobs during economic down turns. Too young to be taken seriously too old for apprenticeships.
Its frustrating as hell if you don’t get into the right line of work from the get go.
Except for when “Young people turned out to vote in the 2017 UK general election in greater numbers than at any other point for 25 years, according to new analysis by Ipsos MORI.”
[Some 64 per cent of registered voters aged 18-24 are now thought to have cast a vote on 9 June, the highest share since 67 per cent voted in 1992.](https://archive.ph/JTDfW)
Unfortunately, those most dissatisfied are the least likely to go and make the change by voting.
The best way to change and renew the democracy and democratic process is by using the strongest tool it grants to its participants: voting.
If there is no one to vote for, forming a new party that aligns with your and your peer’s views is the next step up in the process. Current right wing and ultra nationalist parties are living example that the “old guard” can be shaken to the core and even dethroned when there is a will.
When there is a will, there is a way.
Lost every single election or referendum I’ve voted in… And watched boomers believe every single lie told on the Daily Mail and BBC
Personally I lost faith in the UK due to the reaction the day after the Scottish Indy referendum in 2014.
Only really been repeatedly confirmed since then.
Can you blame us democracy in this country not only doesn’t go far enough in our everyday working lives but the little we have is being taken advantage of by bullshittery misinformationists and class warfare gaslighting lousy cunts and they know what there doing it isn’t negligence it’s completely intentional.
“Democracy” relies on people making informed choices, which they are most certainly not when it comes to voting these days.
Lies, propaganda and misinformation are key weapons of any right wing political party, and are especially effective in this digital age where people rely on social media to get their “news” and “facts”.
Lack of critical thinking and pure spite by voters in some cases is why the Tories continue with their stranglehold on the UK.
Divide and conquer is working a treat.
Isn’t this more a case of only liking or having faith in democracy when it gives you the ‘right’ result?
I’m 40 and have a dramatic loss of faith in UK democracy, the money rules us really.
In other news. “The starving dog stopped begging from the family that throws stones”.
Unfortunately I’ve lost any sympathy for anyone currently struggling under the current government they have consistently voted in.
To say there’s been a few red flags with the current Tory government over the past few years is an understatement. Rishi’s current nightmare would’ve been enough gossip for one term but nope. You’ve got Dominic Cummings’ COVID breaking rules, Priti Patel making refugees lives misery, Boris Johnson basically never able to tell the truth on anything etc.
It’s just bullshit after bullshit after bullshit and the sad thing is, it was all present before the last general election. But of course, no one can think outside of what they’re told in The Sun or on their local Facebook group to make decisions so of course Jeremy Corbyn was a Nazi sympathiser. Why? Don’t know. The paper with the big words told me he was!
Honestly, I feel so fucking sorry for the people who are going to be homeless or dead who didn’t ask for any of this to happen. But if you have consistently voted for a government that has done nothing but made your life worse? Good fucking riddance to you.
Been on the ‘wrong side’ of literally everything I’ve been eligible to vote in* since I was old enough to vote. Of course I have no faith in UK democracy. I do not feel represented at all, and representation is literally the point.
* Except for the recent libdem win in Shropshire, but let’s be honest, that is definitely going to flip straight back at the next election.
I honestly don’t consider FPTP to even be a democracy. It feels like we live in a country where the older generation have been beaten into accepting “the way things work” that the idea of change is so scary to them it will never even be considered.
We also need to address our huge issues with technical and research literacy. The simple fact of the matter is that liars win elections, because a large group of the population take what they say at face value.
We have FPTP, if you’re young in a conservative area (the demographics skew older) then there is literally no point in you voting because your vote is wasted. You’ll get 0 representation.
We will be picking up the pieces of Boris Johnson’s despicable, contemptible Prime Ministership for the next forty years – if we ever recover from it at all.
​
He has shifted the Overton window so far that even a full four year Keir Starmer government is barely going to make a dent
I’m one such young adult.
I have voted in every general election, local election and referendum that I’ve been eligible to vote in since 2010 when I became old enough to legally vote. I have always been on the losing side in some way.
At this point I’m honestly less worried about fellow millennials and zoomers refusing to vote, and more about my generation increasingly turning towards civil disobedience and violence. The scenes in Swansea and Bristol last year should honestly be taken as a warning sign of what’s to come if the government doesn’t change its ways.
Because weve lost every election since weve been able to vote because of the coffin dodgers voting for things to just become worse and worse cuz immigrants.
It’s what happens when every single major institution including the media and politicians claiming to represent the interests of working class people conspire to steal our futures from right under our noses. All so that a small group of rotting corpses in suits can buy their second yachts, this is the result.
Actions, meet consequences.
Every vote I’ve ever cast in this country, from local to national, has effectively gone in the bin, my vote has never made a difference.
The only time it ever counted and made a distance was the European elections.
I still vote, it’s my civic duty etc, but I’ve not gone into a polling booth and felt this is going to make a difference.
Living in a solid Tory safe seat with a brainless stooge for an MP will do that to you
Personally I’m not losing faith in democracy I’m losing faith of the politicians who are elected through that democracy because they are all the same slimy, corrupt, ignore the rules people.
It’s because the British public are idiots and forget about all the crap the Tories do to us by the next election. It’s an endless cycle of shit being thrown at us and we keep voting for it.
‘dramatic loss’
Is hard when I didn’t have any faith to begin with
Been let down since 2010 and got hit with the treble university fees, Brexit and callous government since .
I’ve got faith in democracy I don’t have faith in the electorate
It’s not democracy, it’s “who can spend the most money on making themselves look good in the media”. Parties target fence sitting voters and barrage them with Facebook ads and articles and whatever and it 100% results in changes in voting habits. You can pretty much just buy votes, it’s just a matter of how much money you throw at marketing yourself as less shit than the other people.
Plus we had the ridiculous situation that led to the coalition where the deciding factor on who would end up in power came down to backroom deals between parties trying to get the numbers to form a majority government. We could’ve had a labour/lib/other government if Labour bribed parties like the SNP, DUP etc but instead got Con/Lib. What the fuck is that? How is that democratic?
Then you’ve got FPTP voting, massive imbalance in voting power dependent on whether you’re in a swing constituency or not, whether you’re in a large or small population constituency and then the issue of the media in the UK largely being a Tory mouthpiece due to Murdoch and the rest. Even the BBC is super guilty of favouring the Tories – just look at Lauren Kuensberg, who was borderline Boris Johnsons unofficial press secretary.
And even when democracy does work it’s just the tyranny of the largest minority, unless you’re dealing with direct democracy like in anarchism.
I also think with the climate crisis, housing crisis, cost of living crisis, fuel crisis and the impact of Brexit people are just focusing on trying to get by and have little time or energy to engage in politics. We are a downtrodden nation and we’ve largely given up any hope of things ever getting better.
So overall, no fucking surprise that young people have little faith in this countries bullshit “democracy”.
Doesn’t matter who you vote for in this country, its gonna be shit. Everyone lies. They are all corrupt.
Maybe if PM would stop lying to our faces at every single step and ignoring the rules he creates… I guess those were for everyone else anyway!
It’s actually pretty irrelevant whether young people vote or not. We have an aging population. Our vote is outnumbered because our parents’ generation didn’t fuck enough.
It’s not just young adults, I’m fucking 30, I lost faith when they kettled students in 2010. Nobody trusts you anymore.
Democracy is an illusion in young people’s eyes, we have never been listened to so what is a ‘democracy’ exactly because the uk certainly doesn’t fit the description
The media assassination of Jeremy Corbyn and the dirty tricks the Tories and their media friends played showed alot about the elite establishment mentality of politics.
When it’s ran by a bunch of old guys who know each other, or billionaires who are foreign citizens, that’s not a democracy, that’s basically an oligarchy. So why is it surprising?
Lets be real.
The representative system is not democracy. Switzerland is a real democracy. What we have is and always has been a stitch up for the moneyed class.
The UK has acted like the “Two wolves and a sheep voting on diner” model of democracy for about a decade now. Of course people start to question it.
While I don’t disagree with the sentiment of the article, the data is poorly interpreted and even more poorly presented.
If there is a “dramatic loss” where is the benchmark? I don’t see any historical data that this compares to. They make vague reference to the 70s.
On the whole, the use of this study to support the article is poor and suggestive of confirmation bias on the part of the author. There is no comparative data to be drawing these conclusions from apart from “general historical sentiment” that isn’t backed up by comparable data.
To be clear, I’m not disagreeing with the conclusions, its just poor execution. This is the sort of thing senior politicians would tear apart if it was presented to them – poor interpretation and presentation makes it easy to ignore important information.
Democracy, lmfao, they’d have us back in work houses if they could
I mean, they’ve pretty much fucked my generation.
The next 2 generations have no chance. At this rate there won’t be a third one.
Not much of democracy when the people in charge can get away with lying constantly one rule for them and another for the rest of us. Should have been arrested by now, that’s how bad this government is but its like their untouchable
It is kinda hard taking a PM seriously that rambles incoherent shit about peppa pig on stage…
Young adults have a dramatically accurate view of put society it seems…
Nick Clegg should be a meme. Led the third party (Educated at Westminster and Cambridge). Given the opportunity, on a split electoral vote, to change voting history. Caved. Completely caved. Next you know, there he is being a cunt.
Had no faith in democracy when I was in my 20’s in the 90s. Shits just got worse. Nothings changed
Having fptp is not a proper democracy. You need to get rid of it and some sense will return.
Because no matter what you do, it doesn’t matter. Only one man decides who is in government and his name is Rupert Murdoch.
Reading the comments, there are so many that are “lost every election I voted in”. I think that is the fundamental problem. With FPTP it is seen in terms of winning and losing. We need to get rid of it and move to PR so that everyone’s voice is heard and is fairly represented.
We need electoral reform.
And a long hard investigation of corruption throughout our institutions. Personally I’d start with Eton, but there’s probably a more palatable way to do it.
I think my gen (20s) had little faith and were starting to understand the importance of scrapping FPTP and now the new youth will add to that.
It makes sense, we don’t have a proportionately representative system so it’s quite demoralising when you see that breakdown.
For example in the last UK election the majority of voters voted for a party that wanted to hold a second EU referendum. 52% of voters voted for a party that wanted a second referendum.
And yet what we got was a single party that got 44% of the vote and got 56% of the seats for it. So that issue had to be dealt with their way.
When even the majority agree with you and that’s not enough; it’s no surprise that people feel disenfranchised.
We’re in a situation where the Conservatives got a seat for every 38,304 votes while the Greens got a seat for every 857,513 votes.
This isn’t fair.
I have seen young people say they can’t wait until the older generation dies out. It sounds harsh but I can see why they are frustrated that their destiny is being driven by a generation that don’t share their views and won’t be around to deal with the long term consequences.
I don’t feel most peoples prospects in the UK have improved over the last decade. Things are tough for many people and are only going to get worst in the near future.