
As a large percentage of homes in Finland use a mobile broadband connection (4/5G box), and as I struggled for over an hour trying to find information on this topic and resolving the issue for a Finnish relative, I thought I would post here for information sharing purposes.
SIM cards provided for 4/5G boxes are usually restricted by something called Carrier-Grade NAT.
In short, this means that you don't get a public IP address like you would on cabled internet or on your mobile phone; instead, your carrier will split a single public IP address and use it for multiple 4/5G boxes.
This is a measure to save on available public IPv4 addresses, as these are slowly running out.
For most usage scenario's this is fine, but for certain cases it is a big disadvantage, for example:
– In online multiplayer games, for example Call of Duty, your NAT type will be restricted (Type 3), making it very difficult (often impossible) to join online lobbies.
– Some streaming services may see CGNAT as a VPN or account sharing, as the public IP is shared with other 4/5G boxes, and as such could take action against your account accordingly.
You can find the full list of disadvantages and further information here: Carrier-grade NAT – Wikipedia
However, depending on your carrier, you might be able to request a personal public IP address to resolve these issues.
Elisa has a webpage dedicated to CGNAT / Public IP addresses and how you can request a Public IP address free of charge, and what settings to change. See: Mobiililaajakaistan julkinen IP-osoite -ohjeet – Elisa
DNA similarly has a document on how to achieve this: MOKKULOIDEN JA PÄÄTELAITTEIDEN APN-ASETUKSET
And for Telia I found this webpage: Yhteyspiste ja Yhteyspiste Plus | Asiakastuki
I only have experience with Elisa's solution, and can confirm that this resolved the issues outlined above.
I imagine that following DNA and Telia's steps would result in the same, but it would be good to do your own research first.
The 'Security risks' regarding personal public IP addresses outlined by some of these carriers is exaggerated, and generally shouldn't be a concern (and surely not a reason to buy their additional services).
But again; do your own research first, and only take action when you feel comfortable doing so.
If you are doubtful if CGNAT is enforced on your network, you can use any "What's my IP" websites to show you your public IP address. If it shows ".NAT" in the address, CGNAT is active.
The goal of this post is not to have everyone switch to a public IP address, but to simply share centralized information about CGNAT and the issues that it can cause, as I wasn't able to find this information online easily (without knowing the proper terms). Please do your own research and determine necessity before taking any action.
Cross posting / translating for further sharing purposes would be much appreciated!
I hope this information will be helpful to someone that is facing the outlined issues.
by Awesomehobo21
10 comments
Thank you for this
Good knowledge, saving this for later
Kinda pointless for me as DNA locks their outer modem access page so I can’t change apn, the page worked for 12 hours after they came to install it but after that it was locked and their support doesn’t even understand what I’m asking help for (they think I want to access the wifi router page, but I want the modem page)
Thanks for this. It’s a good psa for those who don’t know and there was even some things I didn’t know. I’ll save this to share to people who need it.
Good stuff. Thank you.
> DNA similarly has a document on how to achieve this: MOKKULOIDEN JA PÄÄTELAITTEIDEN APN-ASETUKSET
It’s been three years I believe since I used a 4G router from DNA for my network.. I figured out these by tinkering as I tend to do. Very annoying to be put in a CGNAT without previous warning. Truth be told.
I still have the 4G modem if I ever need a backup of some kind. Currently using wired gig net from DNA.
Dont need this anymore thank god, but thank you!!
The stupid thing is, there is a fiber cable running to our house, but yet we just use a 4G thingo
Damn, had no idea you wouldn’t get NAT by default with these things, good to know!
Thank you for the info.
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