[OC]Did climate change just double Europe’s heatwave death toll — and no one’s talking about it?

Posted by Prestigious_Big9659

19 comments

  1. Going from a group spanning 39 years to groups spanning 9 says it all, no?

  2. Less healthcare costs and pensions to pay, also frees up houses! Inheritance! Inheritance tax! 

  3. It’s outweighed by the lower deaths from cold in winter too

  4. Gotta make fat piles of money, dont got time for climate or your wellbeing.

    – 99% of the companies and most politicians.

  5. In the 85+ cohort many people are barely surviving in care homes or at home, even without weather extremes.

  6. It’s important to remember that cold kills more people than heat, and this is true on every continent on earth, even Africa. Climate alarmists seek to separate all temperature related deaths into heat related deaths and cold related deaths, and then then ignore any reduction in cold related deaths because it doesn’t fit their narrative. It’s very intellectually dishonest and you are trying to manipulate people who are unfamiliar with these statistics.

  7. I don’t understand the question. Nobody is talking about it?

    My friend, we’ve been shouting about this for decades. This was predicted. This was a known future if we did nothing about the problem.

    Then we did nothing about the problem.

    These days we aren’t talking about this. We’re talking about 100x this. Maybe more.

    But again. You gotta convince the dumbest among us. And that’s historically been very challenging. Getting people to vote in their own self interest is hard. Much simpler to vote in the interests of the rich.

  9. This seems very hard to quantify. I’m not denying climate change but it seems almost impossible to say what the heat-related excess deaths attributable to climate change are. They’ve modelled a counterfactual scenario which seems very nebulous.

    Also, I don’t understand why the light pink is on top of the purple. Typically you would put the counterfactual at the bottom and the excess above it to show how much more. I can’t tell if the purple for 85+ is adding 1k on top of the 340 or if the 340 is meant to be compared to the 1k.

  10. Perhaps people are distracted by the international rise of fascism?

  11. I thought this graph would say ‘heatwaves keep getting worse every year’, which seems true where I live, but it just says ‘it might be cooler if there wasn’t climate change’?

  12. To be fair, it also does probably mean fewer cold related deaths; and they tend to outnumber heat linked deaths.

  13. This may be a case of the cure being worse than the disease. Europe’s response to CC has involved making electricity much more expensive, and making it harder for people to install air conditioning. This may have more to do with people dying of heat stroke.

    Grok:
    Germany: ~$0.450 per kWh (Dec 2024, converted from €0.383).
    Texas: ~$0.153 per kWh (July 2025).

    Yes that’s right 3X the price vs Texas.

    When I was young in the 1950s in my home town, we had 10 days over 110F and no-one died of heat stroke because of air conditioning.

  14. In winter because of cold in eu died 10 times more people than because of heatwave in summer

  15. Something something correlation and causation. Also, what does ‘estimated’ mean here? How are they determining the correlation? I have many questions and I’m skeptical of their methodology and findings. It’s also sad that anyone in the comments being skeptical of the *data* or *methodology* feel they have to preface with, *I’m not a denier, I swear* – are we at that point? Are we trying to rule with an unquestionable iron fist, or are we science-backed? If it’s true, it’s true, but it should be *reproducible* and *accurate* and free from bias where possible.

  16. Where the fuck are you getting data for these. I’ve been looking for so long for reliable data.

  17. Really feels like people have just completely given up. I more or less have. The corpos always win and shits just gotten worse. Over here in the US we are dismantling agencies and regulations that were literally paid for with blood.

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