> The Ministers of Health have decided in principle that all Belgians will eventually receive a repeat injection. Those who received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine will be able to be vaccinated again as early as mid-December. Yesterday, the Superior Health Council recommended that a booster shot be given to those who had been vaccinated with Johnson & Johnson. The ministers have followed that advice and are already going a step further with the decision in principle to give everyone a repeat shot next year.
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> It is important that we have made the decision that we need to go for an extra shot for the total population. We have asked the experts at the Superior Health Council for advice on how exactly to do this and when to do it,” says Flemish Minister of Public Health Wouter Beke (CD&V). The intention is to come up with an operational plan by the end of November.
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> “That plan has to include how we’re going to organize that, who’s going to be first and what time intervals we’re going to use.” Beke points out that there are already plenty of repeat vaccines being put in place, such as among those over 65 and care personnel. “Already 400,000 people in Flanders have had a third shot,” he says.
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> “We need to prepare to give everyone an extra shot in 2022,” says Beke. “Professor Pierre Van Damme has said that we should see this as a completion of our vaccination schedule and that’s right. The virus is not gone. It is still present and more contagious. Vaccinations that help against that. Should we not have vaccines today, we would have been in a totally hopeless situation. But two vaccines is not enough, which is why that extra shot is so important.”
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> **Booster vaccine for people who got Johnson & Johnson**
> The next step now is to give people who received the vaccine from Jonhson & Jonhson a follow-up shot. The first invitations for this would go out at the beginning of December. According to the experts of the Dutch Health Council, the protection provided by the one dose of the Janssen vaccine quickly diminishes and, over time, no longer provides sufficient protection against the coronavirus. An additional (second) shot or booster vaccine is recommended.
> A total of 400,000 Belgians are vaccinated with the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. Most of these shots (360,000) were administered to the 40-65 age group and to hard-to-reach groups such as the homeless and drug addicts. The repeat prick would be done with a Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. According to experts, this is also perfectly safe and effective.
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> **Vaccination centers receive additional assignment**
> Meanwhile, the pressure on vaccination centers is seriously increasing. People come for a third shot, but others come for their first shot as well. And now the booster shot for the Johnson & Johnson vaccine recipients is being introduced. This will be followed later by a repeat shot for everyone.
> “We have to prepare for our vaccination centers to stay open longer,” says Beke. So they certainly won’t close in December.
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> For now, the extra shot will not affect the Covid Safe Ticket or coronapas.
>
> **Protection of Johnson & Johnson vaccine declines**
> “This is important news,” says science journalist Koen Wauters. “With this we are following the trend that has already started in other countries. There is not yet so much scientific evidence that this third shot makes a big difference. But it has been decided: it doesn’t hurt to benefit, so we’re just going to put it in now.”
>
> The situation is different for the Johnson & Johson vaccine. A major scientific study shows that there is a problem there, though. “After six months you see that the protection of Johnson & Johnson is at 13 percent in terms of infections and breakthrough infections. For protection against death, the Janssen vaccine is still at 73 percent,” explains our science journalist Koen Wauters. 73 percent is good, but less than the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine.
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> According to Wauters, everyone should be careful at this point, because we are in a fourth wave. “But people who have gotten Johnson & Johnson, maybe a little more.”
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Will this be required for CST?
If not, I personally don’t think a lot of people will go and get their shot…
The ideology behind J&J vaccine, was convincing people that weren’t interested in getting vaccinated, could quickly hop in, get their shot, and be safe.
I feel that if they didn’t make this a requirement for CST, a lot of people just won’t care…
EDIT: not required for the CST. I guess not a lot of boosters will be given 🙁
Probably AstraZeneca next.
One step closer to the goal of my blood being 90% Pfizer vaccine
Probably attempt to turn everyone into vaccine junkies. Get 2 shots a year or no QR code for you. For the greater good, of course. You don’t want kill old people do you? Coming soon to a quarantine zone near you.
Hopefully this one comes with 5G. Need some better mobile coverage.
israel requires booster shot for cst and so should we
Great, my sleeves are rolled already! I expect we will go towards a kind of yearly shot like the flu, but probably for a much broader population.
Yeah, I’m gonna pass. The second one fuck me up for weeks. I did it because I was promised that it was gonna be a game changer. Months later I’m still walking with a fucking mask on everywhere and have to show my papieren to do anything. The gyms still require reservations and aren’t open 24/7 even though I’m still paying as if they are. And there’s no sign of things changing anytime in the future. Hell, it all seems to be getting worse by the day.
This whole pandemic has been a giant clusterfuck of lies and incompetence. No one knows how to fix this shit. All we’re gonna get are more promises. This one will fix it! No, this one! A few more jabs and it’s gonna be over!
I don’t give a shit anymore. Most people no longer give us shit. Good luck getting people to vaccinate themselves again after the first massive flop. And don’t give me the usual bullshit that the vaccine is working great and it’s all an illusion. It’s not working great. The promises were that vaccinated people could go back to their normal lives and had only a small chance of getting severely sick. That’s not what’s happening. Everyone is in denial just as we were during the early months of the pandemic.
i’m not taking this sorry but it’s gone too far now.
Gonna get hypervaxxed!
Can I take them together with my flu shot lol?
I don’t like it news one Can read anywhere seeping into my favourite hangout. Has it always been like this and have I just started noticing or has it increased?
I see no added value o me repeating news here.
Seems good to me. All my family has had their third and seems fine. Less side effects thankfully
I’ll go get mine only if we as a country or as the EU fulfill our pledge to provide vaccines to the rest of the world first. No point Europe being vaccinated if in the other half of the world the virus keeps mutating and killing.
La science vaincra.
Got J&J. Got covid. Got really sick.
proposal, everyone with a third shot automatically enters a raffle for 250k euro, we can do like 50 winners?
Considering how long the francophone have to dop for this amount I think they will come!
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> The Ministers of Health have decided in principle that all Belgians will eventually receive a repeat injection. Those who received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine will be able to be vaccinated again as early as mid-December. Yesterday, the Superior Health Council recommended that a booster shot be given to those who had been vaccinated with Johnson & Johnson. The ministers have followed that advice and are already going a step further with the decision in principle to give everyone a repeat shot next year.
>
> It is important that we have made the decision that we need to go for an extra shot for the total population. We have asked the experts at the Superior Health Council for advice on how exactly to do this and when to do it,” says Flemish Minister of Public Health Wouter Beke (CD&V). The intention is to come up with an operational plan by the end of November.
>
> “That plan has to include how we’re going to organize that, who’s going to be first and what time intervals we’re going to use.” Beke points out that there are already plenty of repeat vaccines being put in place, such as among those over 65 and care personnel. “Already 400,000 people in Flanders have had a third shot,” he says.
>
> “We need to prepare to give everyone an extra shot in 2022,” says Beke. “Professor Pierre Van Damme has said that we should see this as a completion of our vaccination schedule and that’s right. The virus is not gone. It is still present and more contagious. Vaccinations that help against that. Should we not have vaccines today, we would have been in a totally hopeless situation. But two vaccines is not enough, which is why that extra shot is so important.”
>
> **Booster vaccine for people who got Johnson & Johnson**
> The next step now is to give people who received the vaccine from Jonhson & Jonhson a follow-up shot. The first invitations for this would go out at the beginning of December. According to the experts of the Dutch Health Council, the protection provided by the one dose of the Janssen vaccine quickly diminishes and, over time, no longer provides sufficient protection against the coronavirus. An additional (second) shot or booster vaccine is recommended.
> A total of 400,000 Belgians are vaccinated with the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. Most of these shots (360,000) were administered to the 40-65 age group and to hard-to-reach groups such as the homeless and drug addicts. The repeat prick would be done with a Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. According to experts, this is also perfectly safe and effective.
>
> **Vaccination centers receive additional assignment**
> Meanwhile, the pressure on vaccination centers is seriously increasing. People come for a third shot, but others come for their first shot as well. And now the booster shot for the Johnson & Johnson vaccine recipients is being introduced. This will be followed later by a repeat shot for everyone.
> “We have to prepare for our vaccination centers to stay open longer,” says Beke. So they certainly won’t close in December.
>
> For now, the extra shot will not affect the Covid Safe Ticket or coronapas.
>
> **Protection of Johnson & Johnson vaccine declines**
> “This is important news,” says science journalist Koen Wauters. “With this we are following the trend that has already started in other countries. There is not yet so much scientific evidence that this third shot makes a big difference. But it has been decided: it doesn’t hurt to benefit, so we’re just going to put it in now.”
>
> The situation is different for the Johnson & Johson vaccine. A major scientific study shows that there is a problem there, though. “After six months you see that the protection of Johnson & Johnson is at 13 percent in terms of infections and breakthrough infections. For protection against death, the Janssen vaccine is still at 73 percent,” explains our science journalist Koen Wauters. 73 percent is good, but less than the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine.
>
> According to Wauters, everyone should be careful at this point, because we are in a fourth wave. “But people who have gotten Johnson & Johnson, maybe a little more.”
>
>
Will this be required for CST?
If not, I personally don’t think a lot of people will go and get their shot…
The ideology behind J&J vaccine, was convincing people that weren’t interested in getting vaccinated, could quickly hop in, get their shot, and be safe.
I feel that if they didn’t make this a requirement for CST, a lot of people just won’t care…
EDIT: not required for the CST. I guess not a lot of boosters will be given 🙁
Probably AstraZeneca next.
One step closer to the goal of my blood being 90% Pfizer vaccine
Probably attempt to turn everyone into vaccine junkies. Get 2 shots a year or no QR code for you. For the greater good, of course. You don’t want kill old people do you? Coming soon to a quarantine zone near you.
Hopefully this one comes with 5G. Need some better mobile coverage.
israel requires booster shot for cst and so should we
Great, my sleeves are rolled already! I expect we will go towards a kind of yearly shot like the flu, but probably for a much broader population.
Yeah, I’m gonna pass. The second one fuck me up for weeks. I did it because I was promised that it was gonna be a game changer. Months later I’m still walking with a fucking mask on everywhere and have to show my papieren to do anything. The gyms still require reservations and aren’t open 24/7 even though I’m still paying as if they are. And there’s no sign of things changing anytime in the future. Hell, it all seems to be getting worse by the day.
This whole pandemic has been a giant clusterfuck of lies and incompetence. No one knows how to fix this shit. All we’re gonna get are more promises. This one will fix it! No, this one! A few more jabs and it’s gonna be over!
I don’t give a shit anymore. Most people no longer give us shit. Good luck getting people to vaccinate themselves again after the first massive flop. And don’t give me the usual bullshit that the vaccine is working great and it’s all an illusion. It’s not working great. The promises were that vaccinated people could go back to their normal lives and had only a small chance of getting severely sick. That’s not what’s happening. Everyone is in denial just as we were during the early months of the pandemic.
i’m not taking this sorry but it’s gone too far now.
Gonna get hypervaxxed!
Can I take them together with my flu shot lol?
I don’t like it news one Can read anywhere seeping into my favourite hangout. Has it always been like this and have I just started noticing or has it increased?
I see no added value o me repeating news here.
Seems good to me. All my family has had their third and seems fine. Less side effects thankfully
I’ll go get mine only if we as a country or as the EU fulfill our pledge to provide vaccines to the rest of the world first. No point Europe being vaccinated if in the other half of the world the virus keeps mutating and killing.
La science vaincra.
Got J&J. Got covid. Got really sick.
proposal, everyone with a third shot automatically enters a raffle for 250k euro, we can do like 50 winners?
Considering how long the francophone have to dop for this amount I think they will come!