What is damaging to the country is him clinging on to power and wasting everyone’s time.
Johnson being investigated for lying about partygate is like Al Capone being done for tax evasion.
We all know he is guilty of far worse and is a habitual liar. In times of crisis it is more urgent than ever that we do get some stability by removing this lying cowardly narcissist who leaves a trail of destruction in his wake and simply cannot be trusted to be straight with those that legislate on our behalf.
I hope that those few Tories who have had the backbone to call time on the PM can coalesce around a leader whose integrity is respected across the house. They may be few but I believe there are some. Someone who will understand the public sentiment and see that the likes of Johnson, Patel and Rees-Mogg do not get a sniff in when it comes to establishing a new cabinet.
They have two years to try and gain some credibility before the next election so the clock is ticking.
> claimed that changing leader would be “dearly damaging for the country”.
So they would replace him for someone even worse? Where do they find such people?
>Tory claims Boris Johnson quitting would be ‘damaging’
Whatever he does, stay or run, he will damage the Tories.
That’s how toxic he has become.
What a badly worded headline. I misconstrued it as “…Would be damaging because two thirds of Brits want him to go”, rather than “… At the same time as two thirds of Brits want him to go.”
It wouldn’t be the first time a Tory has been dead wrong. I’m struggling for a right decision they’ve made in the past twelve years.
If most of the country want him to go, it’s for the best that he stays until the next election when we will get the final say on the matter.
To be fair I don’t know what exactly Johnson gains from remaining in No 10. Hes debased the role of PM each and every day he’s been in office.
Perhaps he believes there may come a point that even HE can’t go any lower. But until that point arrives the UK and its political and financial structure will just have to continue to suffer him.
Is this it? Is this where we are now at Oliver Dowden?
He’ll 100% be gone after the local elections
Atm they’re banking on the public being as stunningly ignorant as they were last year
What in gods name will they replace him with though?
Gove? That guy from North Cornwall who keeps jumping in the sea and can’t swim? The creepy Victorian stepfather? Phyco Patel? That dim witted tennis pitch woman?
I mean, there is hardly a rational argument for any of the Tory MP’s to step up at the moment and any that want to keep their seats after the next GE will steer clear of a cabinet position.
I voted for him in 2019, no chance of that happening again. Mans a disgrace to the office and should buzz off.
Two thirds like fuck they do, left wing Labour lot is what you mean
He should step down. Then we, the people, should force a general election. If that’s even possible.
Damaging for THEM, not the country – because who else have they got that people will even entertain as a leader right now?
Boris is SO Teflon I could even see swoop into Labour if they won the next election and STILL manage to remain PM!!
Lying to the Queen, lying to Parliament and to police multiple times, having a cabinet of complete tossers who presumably HE named for the roles, bringing the country to its knees while still not understanding what a party is. He just WON’T GO and it’s pissing me off.
Two thirds of brits wanting a PM to go is barely. This is a huge flaw of FPTP. Most PMs get in with about 40% of the population voting for them…
Theresa May left like a boss and still has respect, Boris has no ‘tegrity
Brexit has been pretty damaging and was implemented with a much smaller majority
The fact that most of the defences now are not that he should go, but that it’s the wrong time for him to go are exactly why he needs to go…
“We really don’t want the public to think that we have to quit just because we do bad things” – The Tories, probably
the reason its damaging, is because boris has no pretence of not being a bungler.
with boris gone, the rest of their bungling has 1 less excuse.
I mean our reputation is already in the toilet, might as well keep him there a bit longer: every minute more Buttons is in office is a month more they’ll be out of power. Plus, by 2010 Thatcher and Major were distant memories, and not entirely bad ones (at least in how they can be spun). There’s no amount of revisionism and rose-tint that can do the same to this three year shitshow, and there’s only any real defence of it now because a large swathe of thinking adults actually voted for this and need to live with it somehow. That won’t last. He might be the greatest electoral asset Labour have had since 90s Blair, and if he turns out to be on their payroll I don’t even think I’d be that surprised.
Thats not very Tory like, actually looking into lasting effects of reckless decisions rather than going blindly into them whilst blaming all the fallout on other people, doing nothing to fix their mistakes.
How can it only be two thirds? Who the fuck is still supporting him? What does this guy need to do to lose support from some people?
Johnson just made a trip to India. UK afaik is the European country with the closest links to India. India is buying discount oil from India. Johnson make no mention of it at all on his trip, because he knew that the Indians want that oil and won’t budge so hi trip wouldn’t have been 100% a success.
That’s clearly Johnson putting his domestic, self inflicted political problems above everything else. Not for the first time, he cancelled a call to Putin just before the invasion because he was busy fixing the Sue Grey report.
For those reasons alone Johnson must go. But there are plenty more.
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>SkyNews: [There is a “strong case” for Boris Johnson to remain “in office” despite growing calls for him to resign over the ongoing partygate scandal, Oliver Dowden has said.](https://news.sky.com/story/strong-case-for-boris-johnson-to-remain-pm-as-he-has-plenty-more-fuel-in-the-tank-despite-partygate-row-tory-chairman-oliver-dowden-says-12597691)
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>Birmingham local elections: In our series of interviews with the men vying to become the city council’s leader, Jane Haynes meets Local Conservatives’ Robert Alden
What is damaging to the country is him clinging on to power and wasting everyone’s time.
Johnson being investigated for lying about partygate is like Al Capone being done for tax evasion.
We all know he is guilty of far worse and is a habitual liar. In times of crisis it is more urgent than ever that we do get some stability by removing this lying cowardly narcissist who leaves a trail of destruction in his wake and simply cannot be trusted to be straight with those that legislate on our behalf.
I hope that those few Tories who have had the backbone to call time on the PM can coalesce around a leader whose integrity is respected across the house. They may be few but I believe there are some. Someone who will understand the public sentiment and see that the likes of Johnson, Patel and Rees-Mogg do not get a sniff in when it comes to establishing a new cabinet.
They have two years to try and gain some credibility before the next election so the clock is ticking.
> claimed that changing leader would be “dearly damaging for the country”.
So they would replace him for someone even worse? Where do they find such people?
>Tory claims Boris Johnson quitting would be ‘damaging’
Whatever he does, stay or run, he will damage the Tories.
That’s how toxic he has become.
What a badly worded headline. I misconstrued it as “…Would be damaging because two thirds of Brits want him to go”, rather than “… At the same time as two thirds of Brits want him to go.”
It wouldn’t be the first time a Tory has been dead wrong. I’m struggling for a right decision they’ve made in the past twelve years.
If most of the country want him to go, it’s for the best that he stays until the next election when we will get the final say on the matter.
To be fair I don’t know what exactly Johnson gains from remaining in No 10. Hes debased the role of PM each and every day he’s been in office.
Perhaps he believes there may come a point that even HE can’t go any lower. But until that point arrives the UK and its political and financial structure will just have to continue to suffer him.
Is this it? Is this where we are now at Oliver Dowden?
He’ll 100% be gone after the local elections
Atm they’re banking on the public being as stunningly ignorant as they were last year
What in gods name will they replace him with though?
Gove? That guy from North Cornwall who keeps jumping in the sea and can’t swim? The creepy Victorian stepfather? Phyco Patel? That dim witted tennis pitch woman?
I mean, there is hardly a rational argument for any of the Tory MP’s to step up at the moment and any that want to keep their seats after the next GE will steer clear of a cabinet position.
I voted for him in 2019, no chance of that happening again. Mans a disgrace to the office and should buzz off.
Two thirds like fuck they do, left wing Labour lot is what you mean
He should step down. Then we, the people, should force a general election. If that’s even possible.
Damaging for THEM, not the country – because who else have they got that people will even entertain as a leader right now?
Boris is SO Teflon I could even see swoop into Labour if they won the next election and STILL manage to remain PM!!
Lying to the Queen, lying to Parliament and to police multiple times, having a cabinet of complete tossers who presumably HE named for the roles, bringing the country to its knees while still not understanding what a party is. He just WON’T GO and it’s pissing me off.
Two thirds of brits wanting a PM to go is barely. This is a huge flaw of FPTP. Most PMs get in with about 40% of the population voting for them…
Theresa May left like a boss and still has respect, Boris has no ‘tegrity
Brexit has been pretty damaging and was implemented with a much smaller majority
The fact that most of the defences now are not that he should go, but that it’s the wrong time for him to go are exactly why he needs to go…
“We really don’t want the public to think that we have to quit just because we do bad things” – The Tories, probably
the reason its damaging, is because boris has no pretence of not being a bungler.
with boris gone, the rest of their bungling has 1 less excuse.
I mean our reputation is already in the toilet, might as well keep him there a bit longer: every minute more Buttons is in office is a month more they’ll be out of power. Plus, by 2010 Thatcher and Major were distant memories, and not entirely bad ones (at least in how they can be spun). There’s no amount of revisionism and rose-tint that can do the same to this three year shitshow, and there’s only any real defence of it now because a large swathe of thinking adults actually voted for this and need to live with it somehow. That won’t last. He might be the greatest electoral asset Labour have had since 90s Blair, and if he turns out to be on their payroll I don’t even think I’d be that surprised.
Thats not very Tory like, actually looking into lasting effects of reckless decisions rather than going blindly into them whilst blaming all the fallout on other people, doing nothing to fix their mistakes.
How can it only be two thirds? Who the fuck is still supporting him? What does this guy need to do to lose support from some people?
Johnson just made a trip to India. UK afaik is the European country with the closest links to India. India is buying discount oil from India. Johnson make no mention of it at all on his trip, because he knew that the Indians want that oil and won’t budge so hi trip wouldn’t have been 100% a success.
That’s clearly Johnson putting his domestic, self inflicted political problems above everything else. Not for the first time, he cancelled a call to Putin just before the invasion because he was busy fixing the Sue Grey report.
For those reasons alone Johnson must go. But there are plenty more.