A 15/16yo radicalised through spending thousands of hours in a pro-Nazi Discord group is honestly just heartbreaking.
Here’s a vulnerable, trans and autistic teen dealing with mental health challenges and identity struggles. He was basically the perfect target for radicalisation and someone who can be manipulated into committing violence.
***EDIT:*** I’m not passing blame or excusing his actions, he still bears responsibility for them. However, it’s important to understand how vulnerable people can be exploited by hateful ideologies online, especially when they’re isolated and struggling mentally.
>The court heard he had amassed 65 videos about the Columbine massacre, some set to music that appeared to “glamorise” the killings. Pupils reported that Winter spoke of using firearms, explosives or poison to attack students and staff, and had even expressed interest in acquiring a 3D printer to make a weapon.
I think the internet and communication apps should be illegal for children and there should be mandatory internet safety and navigation classes in schools. Kids are raising themselves on patchworks of naccistic “influencer” opinions and lifestyles and marginalizing themselves by joining cult like discord, whatsapp, telegram groups. This will be an unpopular opinion because so many are profiting directly from children and know it, but it’s predatory, fills the platforms with copy cat material and is doing nothing good for society as a whole. Age gating the full internet it as a purely adult experience to navigate like alcohol and gambling is the logical move, rather than full censorship and governmental control will do a lot to curb these trends and make it all the easier to police these predators and cult like echo chambers of ill intent. We can make smaller closed networks for apps and services people under 18 can use.
Which Edinburgh school did he attend?
I don’t care what anyone says. The boy shouldn’t be doing any jail time. He clearly needs help not a sentence.
Aw but look at the tiny little ears, surely they couldn’t harm a fly
3d printed “weapon” means nothing without some actual weapon parts, that would also include bullets which he cannot and will not, ever print
but here we go demonising 3d printers
He should never, be let out from the Mental Hospital he SHOULD be in.
Social Workers & Do-Gooders Are You LISTENING?
Never Be Fooled by this sick young man.
For the Peace & Safety of us All.
Pity or punish only deals with the symptoms. I don’t have the information to make a firm decision on that.
What bothers me more is the fact is that those who radicalised him are free and will face no consequences.
I think recognising extremist westernist rheotric as a terrorist threat would be very useful in combatting this kind of thing. Importing this nonsense is effectively stochastic terrorism.
Can someone explain to me what the actual crime was? He didn’t get as far as carrying out an attack or even acquiring any weapons. A “breach of the peace” was mentioned – was there some kind of outburst involved where he threatened his schoolmates? Im not trying to argue on his behalf – I’m just not clear on exactly what crime was committed.
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Judges remarks:
HMA v Felix Winter
Jul 30, 2025
At the High Court in Glasgow Lord Arthurson sentenced Felix Winter to 6 years detention after the offender pled guilty to breach of the peace, with an accompanying racial aggravation, and a separate but related offence under section 58(1)(a) and (b) of the Terrorism Act 2000.
On sentencing Lord Arthurson made the following remarks in court:
“Felix Winter, on 21 February 2025 you tendered pleas of guilty by way of accelerated section 76 procedure to a two charge indictment libelling a complex multi‑part offence of breach of the peace, with an accompanying racial aggravation, and a separate but related offence under section 58(1)(a) and (b) of the Terrorism Act 2000. The court has subsequently obtained a criminal justice social work report and a risk assessment report prepared by a consultant forensic psychologist who is a specialised risk assessor accredited as such by the Risk Management Authority. A variety of further reports are also available, obtained at the instance of your senior counsel and other professionals involved in this anxious and highly unusual case.
The index offending libelled was committed by you between 1 June 2022 and 31 July 2023, when you were aged between 15 and 16 and a pupil at the High School referred to in each of the charges on the present indictment (hereinafter referred to as “the School”). You are now aged 18. You have no criminal antecedents of any kind.
A detailed and lengthy agreed factual narrative was read into the record on the date of your first appearance in this court. I do not propose to rehearse that extensive material this afternoon. Suffice to say, the gravamen of the offending in this case relates to you making known to others your desire and plans to carry out acts of violence involving firearms, explosive devices and poison against pupils and teachers at the School. You additionally showed certain material, including videos of mass shootings, to your fellow pupils, which material contained footage taken from the notorious mass shooting in 1999 at Columbine High School in Colorado, USA. You stated your intention to acquire a 3‑D printer in order to manufacture a firearm for use in the commission by you of acts of violence at the School. Your mode of dress in person and on TikTok videos posted by you resembled those responsible for the mass shooting at Columbine High School. On one occasion you dressed in a tactical vest and helmet whilst in possession of an imitation firearm within the School. You further made a record of, and possessed, documents or records containing information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism, namely the manufacture of explosive substances and devices, the manufacture of cyanide and the conversion of a handgun, in a notebook and by way of PDF instructions and video files.
Leave it to us Americans to fuck the rest of the world up. Sorry people.
Sounds like he is a casualty of 4chan, Reddit etc. Maybe more fair to say the internet in general.
The internet will always be full of content for edgy young teens but it does seem like many of them are unable to grow out of it and find themselves sucked into some extreme rabbit holes.
Please wonderful Scotts DO NOT be like the Americans.
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A 15/16yo radicalised through spending thousands of hours in a pro-Nazi Discord group is honestly just heartbreaking.
Here’s a vulnerable, trans and autistic teen dealing with mental health challenges and identity struggles. He was basically the perfect target for radicalisation and someone who can be manipulated into committing violence.
***EDIT:*** I’m not passing blame or excusing his actions, he still bears responsibility for them. However, it’s important to understand how vulnerable people can be exploited by hateful ideologies online, especially when they’re isolated and struggling mentally.
[Scottish legal news has more details](https://www.scottishlegal.com/articles/transgender-neo-nazi-teenager-who-planned-doomsday-school-attack-in-edinburgh-jailed-for-six-years)
>The court heard he had amassed 65 videos about the Columbine massacre, some set to music that appeared to “glamorise” the killings. Pupils reported that Winter spoke of using firearms, explosives or poison to attack students and staff, and had even expressed interest in acquiring a 3D printer to make a weapon.
I think the internet and communication apps should be illegal for children and there should be mandatory internet safety and navigation classes in schools. Kids are raising themselves on patchworks of naccistic “influencer” opinions and lifestyles and marginalizing themselves by joining cult like discord, whatsapp, telegram groups. This will be an unpopular opinion because so many are profiting directly from children and know it, but it’s predatory, fills the platforms with copy cat material and is doing nothing good for society as a whole. Age gating the full internet it as a purely adult experience to navigate like alcohol and gambling is the logical move, rather than full censorship and governmental control will do a lot to curb these trends and make it all the easier to police these predators and cult like echo chambers of ill intent. We can make smaller closed networks for apps and services people under 18 can use.
Which Edinburgh school did he attend?
I don’t care what anyone says. The boy shouldn’t be doing any jail time. He clearly needs help not a sentence.
Aw but look at the tiny little ears, surely they couldn’t harm a fly
3d printed “weapon” means nothing without some actual weapon parts, that would also include bullets which he cannot and will not, ever print
but here we go demonising 3d printers
He should never, be let out from the Mental Hospital he SHOULD be in.
Social Workers & Do-Gooders Are You LISTENING?
Never Be Fooled by this sick young man.
For the Peace & Safety of us All.
Pity or punish only deals with the symptoms. I don’t have the information to make a firm decision on that.
What bothers me more is the fact is that those who radicalised him are free and will face no consequences.
I think recognising extremist westernist rheotric as a terrorist threat would be very useful in combatting this kind of thing. Importing this nonsense is effectively stochastic terrorism.
Can someone explain to me what the actual crime was? He didn’t get as far as carrying out an attack or even acquiring any weapons. A “breach of the peace” was mentioned – was there some kind of outburst involved where he threatened his schoolmates? Im not trying to argue on his behalf – I’m just not clear on exactly what crime was committed.
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Judges remarks:
HMA v Felix Winter
Jul 30, 2025
At the High Court in Glasgow Lord Arthurson sentenced Felix Winter to 6 years detention after the offender pled guilty to breach of the peace, with an accompanying racial aggravation, and a separate but related offence under section 58(1)(a) and (b) of the Terrorism Act 2000.
On sentencing Lord Arthurson made the following remarks in court:
“Felix Winter, on 21 February 2025 you tendered pleas of guilty by way of accelerated section 76 procedure to a two charge indictment libelling a complex multi‑part offence of breach of the peace, with an accompanying racial aggravation, and a separate but related offence under section 58(1)(a) and (b) of the Terrorism Act 2000. The court has subsequently obtained a criminal justice social work report and a risk assessment report prepared by a consultant forensic psychologist who is a specialised risk assessor accredited as such by the Risk Management Authority. A variety of further reports are also available, obtained at the instance of your senior counsel and other professionals involved in this anxious and highly unusual case.
The index offending libelled was committed by you between 1 June 2022 and 31 July 2023, when you were aged between 15 and 16 and a pupil at the High School referred to in each of the charges on the present indictment (hereinafter referred to as “the School”). You are now aged 18. You have no criminal antecedents of any kind.
A detailed and lengthy agreed factual narrative was read into the record on the date of your first appearance in this court. I do not propose to rehearse that extensive material this afternoon. Suffice to say, the gravamen of the offending in this case relates to you making known to others your desire and plans to carry out acts of violence involving firearms, explosive devices and poison against pupils and teachers at the School. You additionally showed certain material, including videos of mass shootings, to your fellow pupils, which material contained footage taken from the notorious mass shooting in 1999 at Columbine High School in Colorado, USA. You stated your intention to acquire a 3‑D printer in order to manufacture a firearm for use in the commission by you of acts of violence at the School. Your mode of dress in person and on TikTok videos posted by you resembled those responsible for the mass shooting at Columbine High School. On one occasion you dressed in a tactical vest and helmet whilst in possession of an imitation firearm within the School. You further made a record of, and possessed, documents or records containing information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism, namely the manufacture of explosive substances and devices, the manufacture of cyanide and the conversion of a handgun, in a notebook and by way of PDF instructions and video files.
Leave it to us Americans to fuck the rest of the world up. Sorry people.
Sounds like he is a casualty of 4chan, Reddit etc. Maybe more fair to say the internet in general.
The internet will always be full of content for edgy young teens but it does seem like many of them are unable to grow out of it and find themselves sucked into some extreme rabbit holes.
Please wonderful Scotts DO NOT be like the Americans.
J.K Rowling where you at?
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