BREAKING: Trump Loses It Over Jobs Data, Fires Bureau Chief in Rage
Hey everybody, Tim Miller with the Bull Work here with our publisher Sarah Longwell. We’ve got some breaking news. Uh Trump has apparently uh via social media just announced that he is firing the commissioner of labor statistics because the job numbers are so bad. That’s how bad the job numbers are this month. Me and Sar going to get into the details of that jobs report, but we got to at least start with this breaking news. This literally just sent with me to me right before we started taping. Here it is. Donald Trump’s bleet. I was just informed that our country’s jobs numbers in quotes, so I guess giving scare quotes to government statistics now are being produced by Biden appointee Dr. Erica McIntar, sorry if I mispronounced that, the commissioner of labor statistics who faked the jobs numbers before the election to try and boost Kell’s chances of victory. Then a bunch of blah blah blah. He writes, “We need accurate jobs numbers. I’ve directed my team to fire this Biden political appointee immediately. She’ll be replaced with someone much more competent and qualified. Oh, I’m sure. Uh, important numbers like this must be fair and accurate. The current jobs report said there were only 73,000 jobs added. He writes, “A shock.” And then he writes, “But more importantly, that a major mistake was made and they revised 258,000 jobs downward in the prior two months.” Uh, he goes on to let you know that the economy is booming, all caps, under Trump. And then on the way out, he throws a quick shiv at at Jerome Powell, writing, “Jerome, quote, “Too late. Powell should also be put quote out to pasture. Thank you for your attention to this matter.” Wow. A lot there, Sarah. Take it wherever whichever place you’d like to go. All right. First of all, I just want people to understand like this is genuinely nuts. Here is what he’s doing. He is firing the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics because he doesn’t like that they are reporting on the statistics about the bad job he’s doing on the economy. Right? So he has made choices. The labor market has slowed in a very serious way. And two things are in this job report that are kind of gobsmacking. So the first is how much they missed for the month of July. What they had hoped, right? The estimate had beened that they would add about 110 115,000 jobs. Instead it was 73,000. That’s a big miss. Way lower than they were hoping. But even worse, the biggest thing that happened is then they went back to June and May and they revised the number of jobs down by almost 250,000 which meant that in those two months when the Bureau of Labor Statistics came out with their jobs reports they had wildly overestimated them. Now here’s the thing we don’t know. We don’t know why that happened. Like that is a mystery, but they were putting a much more favorable sheen on the slowing economy. And so people are looking at those job numbers from May and June and saying these are pretty good. This is pretty steady, you know, good growth. Uh on track for what they were anticipating, but no, they’ve revised to them way down. Okay. So, if the labor market is slowing, it is likely because of the tariffs, because of inflation, because of a bunch of policies of Donald Trump’s own making, the uncertainty around the tariffs. And so, he’s firing this person just for reporting the statistics accurately. That’s it. That’s what’s happening. Yeah. I I want to go deeper with you on the actual jobs numbers in a second, but let’s just stick on this firing for one second. Also, again, always Trump like lives in these gray areas where he totally breaks the norms and, you know, he does things that gives his people a talking point that they can talk about, right? The idea this is a Biden appointee. You can understand how people might think, well, okay, new administrations should be able to get their appointees in various jobs throughout the administration. But like that is not what’s happening here. It’s not like Trump came in and said, “Okay, you know, across a number of these agencies, they’re Biden appointees. They’re political appointees. We want to replace them with Trump people.” Like, okay. Um, that’s not what that’s not what he did. Uh, what he did, as you said, is he is targeting a single person, firing them because they reported the truth. Yes. Like that’s where we’re at. like he is firing a government employee for accurately providing data to the American people. Like this sort of data is important for, you know, a variety of different things. It’s important for the Fed. We’ll get to drone pilot in a second as they decide what to do with interest rates. It’s important, you know, it’s similar to what we’re seeing with the National Weather Service and I we we have a lot of worries about this down in the Gulf Coast right now about like are we going to be getting as accurate hurricane warnings as we used to because they fired a bunch of people. So like it there it it it matters that we can trust our federal government to put out data that is reliable. And what Donald Trump has done by firing this woman for putting out reliable info is he’s basically saying, “Yeah, you can’t trust the federal government. Like we are essentially 1980s Moscow like around Chernobyl and like we’re people are going to people are going to put out whatever necessary to keep me happy.” And so even if he does replace this person with a serious rightwing person, which I who the hell knows, right? How could you even try, right? Like it it brings into doubt the future data that’s coming out of this administration because it’s like, well, okay, clearly um they’re going to make personnel choices uh and only reward people who either cook the books or only put out things that look good for the administration. Yeah. And like this is not she didn’t go and single-handedly put some thumb on the scale that’s like make Donald Trump’s jobs numbers look bad. Like that I I’m not it is unclear to me why they were so off before. There could have been some major delay in reporting. Um I mean I they use payroll from these companies to figure out this. And so you know this is I’ve been back when I was at the RNC in 2012. It was my job to put out the statement around jobs report week. This has been happening since the before Trump times, right? It’s like, you know, there there’s error in this sort of thing. And the interesting thing about this error is like the revision down actually matches what people expected. Like there was this whole discourse going around like the last two weeks among economists. They’re like, why is the economy better than we think it should be? Like when you look underneath, you know, when I’ve interviewed economy experts, like when you look at underneath the hood, you know, like I forget, I think it was Joe Weisenth was interviewing and he’s like, “If you look at the Dallas Fed report and this is just, you know, the local Fed for that region and they interview the local business owners and like what are you seeing?” And like all the anecdotes are horrible. Like, you know, he’s like, “You think we are in a recession looking at the Fed report? How does that match the jobs report?” Right? So this was kind of a thing in economic dork circles for a while and and it seems to me really that you know it’s just like anything else just like the ancelter poll like sometimes there’s errors in statistics and like you get more data and you update the data and you look back in and now it really this is why he’s so pissed like the truth has come in line like the data has come in line with what kind of people were seeing and expecting out in the world. Anyway, sorry to cut you off. Well, no, no, no. I think that’s right. I mean this is the this is actually the biggest revision though since 1979 with one exception which was April of 2020 uh where they also had a big miss right it’s co but other than that like it is actually a really big uh step back a really big revision and so it’s it’s unclear why that happened and I’m sure there’s going to be a lot of people with questions but but to your point the revisions are much more in line with what everybody was expecting based on what we’re seeing Like the idea that the labor market would be thriving in an environment where Donald Trump is making it impossible for anybody to plan anything. Like the idea that you’re going to shift the entire American manufacturing economy over the next 50 years when the guy changes his mind every day and people are going to invest in that like that never made sense. And so even me, not an economist, not even very good at math has been sort of like why are the jobs numbers so good? like what is going on here? Uh and so but the thing is is like when the revisions are down to like 14,000 like we added 14,000 jobs in June, 19,000 jobs in May. It might be reversed but like really really low numbers. Now those are real markers of recession type labor market. Absolutely. And just so before we just move in because there a couple other things I want to talk about about the actual jobs numbers. Do you have anything else just on kind of the chilling nature of this firing and what he said about Pal. I mean you know saying the same at Pal at the end about putting him out to pasture. So I was watching a clip of Fox Business when the job numbers came in and Maria Barto Romo and like we have that clip actually. Let’s watch it. Let’s play it. 73,000 jobs. 73,000 jobs created in the month of July. number just coming out and that’s total 4.2% at the unemployment rate right in line with expectations. Here are the numbers uh for the month of July. Jobs came in at 73,000. That was lower than the expectation which called for 110,000 jobs. Uh the unemployment rate right in step with expectations at 4.2%. Well, there you go. The faces tell all there. But what they want to do is immediately pivot to the idea that it is Jerome Powell’s fault for not lowering interest rates. I don’t think interest rates have that much to do with the labor market. Like I don’t understand how lowering interest rates was going to necessarily help this jobs. I like in a Yeah. In a broader sense, the idea is if you know the economy is slowing and you don’t have the inflation issues from tariffs, you do want to lower interest rates because it’s like in theory this means that you know businesses are going to take more risk and you know because they know that they can right like get lower rates on on on on their debt. It’s you know instead of if you’re going to build a new factory or whatever it’s not going to cost as Right. Right. So so like that’s the theory but like I mean it doesn’t a it just like doesn’t happen in a like in a snap like that. And um the reason part of the reason why that drum pal wasn’t doing it was because the the months looked good and Maria Baromo and all the other people on Fox were like talking about how great the golden age it was, right? So it’s like you’re not going to lower rates in if it were in the golden age. So anyway, uh and I think that that their like reaction there um is pretty telling about how bad it is. And I just I don’t know. I I the power thing is chilling. I just I keep going back to the economic experts I talked to and it’s like they think it’s a worst case scenario. And and I just want to draw one more parallel here about why this matters beyond just the fact that it’s unfair to this woman and that it’s, you know, just kind of soft authoritarian nonsense. It matters because it’s like if you if you can’t trust the data coming out of the government, all right, and then if you were to fire Powell and you can’t trust that the Fed is actually independent anymore, then you then you can’t like trust the fundamental basis of the economy, right? Like like part of the reason why our economy is better than Argentina’s or you know in other places around the world is because people feel like America’s a safe harbor. they can invest and you know like the institutions are strong and etc. like that framework starts to break down and and I to me that is the most like chilling thing about this firing is like it’s like a little it’s one thing it’s one data point but it’s a point towards like total a kind of I don’t know banana republic area on on economic stuff and here’s the thing so here’s what’s most chilling to me we have seen Donald Trump politicize things that are not typically politicized in the way that he’s politicizing them so that’s the attorney attorney general. That’s the FBI director, the deputy FBI director. There’s just a ton of things that Donald Trump is politicizing, but they are they do like have some political roles, right? Like normally like the FBI director is meant to span things, but like it’s just a little grayer. Donald Trump is now moving in to politicize things that really are not politicized in our government. Labor statistics. This is not this is not where you get to go in and mess around. like nobody cares who the whether a Biden the only reason Biden appointed that person is because that was like the term was up you know like these are and it’s not like a single person there’s a whole apparatus there uh there’s not just one person who’s mcking with the numbers it’s insane to fire someone so anyway but the politicizing of things that are hereto for entirely apolitical is part of what’s scary too yeah all right just really quick um a couple other things in the jobs numbers um how just cuz I literally like my my my dad’s a finance guy. So I I was literally having this conversation with him two days ago. I landed in Denver and I’m like, “What do you like what do you make of what’s happening?” You and he’s like, “Well, I don’t know.” He’s like, “Maybe everything’s being held up by or everything’s being kind of propped up by all this investments going into AI, right? Like all these data centers are getting built and it’s sort of masking, you know, and that if you like look at the data and I was kind of reading a lot of the economic smarties this morning that like feels kind of right. Like the jobs right now in this economy are basically there’s a bunch of gains in jobs in healthcare. Healthare might be going away. The boomers the boomers are getting sick and then and they’re cutting it and they’re cutting it and they’re cutting it. So that might be going away but so for at least for last month there were job gains in healthcare. There were job gains in like also similarly basically elder care, social services like this kind of stuff. Uh and then there were there were not really job gains but like uh if you look at some of the other data that that was put out like economic activity gains in these data centers and AI and all that stuff that’s being built by big tech and that’s like it like and besides that like this economy’s in a recession like there like you’re losing jobs basically in every other other sector and I mean that to me that like is a sign of a quite a weak economy that’s hard to just that feels more than just like a blip. I don’t know. Maybe that’s wrong. I mean, I I don’t think we know and I don’t think we will know until we get a I mean, I I do. We’re doing breaking news because this is a big story. Not just the jobs numbers, the revisions and then the firing over the revisions. Like, this is a this is a bigger deal than however big a deal you think it is, it’s a bigger deal. Yeah. Right. So, just from one random month where it’s like, you know, it goes up, it goes down. Like, there’s some real bad signs here. Fundamentals about the economy, I guess, is my point. And also some really scary signs about just like the authoritarian creep. Well, you know, you think about Donald Trump and how the economy has always been his strongest suit. And in fact, he was elected. I mean, people held their nose. Some groups of people, there’s people who obviously like him because of all of his moral failings. But for a lot of people, they overlook the moral failings. And I hear this in focus groups all the time. He’s a businessman. I liked the economy back before COVID, you know, when he was running it. And I just think he’s going to lower costs. So Trump’s entire stake, but he is he’s currently minus 12.4%. He’s way underwater on his handling of the economy with voters. That’s according to Nate Silver’s aggregator. And so he will do anything to protect the idea that he is the man who can handle this economy. He’s already doing poorly. So like he’s the one who’s got everything to lose uh on these numbers. And if we do slide into a recession, a Trump session, uh, like he knows that’s what cooks him more than anything. But also, and also, I guess I agree with all that. Although the one thing I would add to that is he knows that’s what could cook him. He also knows that he’s been pretty successful in gaslighting people and telling them that bad things are actually good. And, you know, to me, this this firing uh at Labor Statistics is, you know, we’re not it’s not it isn’t at January 6 level. It isn’t at stop the steel level, but it’s kind of like it’s the playbook, right? Like what was he what was he doing after he lost the election in 2020 is doing everything possible to tell everybody no actually I won, you know, uh up to and including like the storming of the capital, right? And I think that will be what happens if the if the economy really continues to sour is, you know, potentially the drone pal firing and potentially anything else, any other lever at his at his disposal to to propagandize the public and try to tell them that not to believe their lying eyes and that things are actually the economy is actually good and it’s just these bad people that are, you know, trying to whatever sully the golden age. Yeah. And here’s here’s the other thing I’ll add to that, which is like this is manufacturing lost in this jobs report, it lost like 11,000 jobs. That’s before these tariffs have really hit. Like Donald Trump is tacoing on tariffs as we speak. Like last night, he did an executive order in the dead of night saying, “I’m giving another 7-day thing, another seven days for people to come and negotiate with me, otherwise we’re doing the 15 to 40%, you know, blanket tariffs.” So these manufacturing jobs and the job losses are in there before the tariffs have really started to hit in a major way. And so I do wonder what it’s going to do to his tacoing on tariffs because with jobs numbers like these and economy slowing like this, I’m not sure he can risk. I mean the market’s going down. I’m not going to use the market too much, but like all the longer term trends are really going in the wrong direction. All right, that’s Sarah Longwell. Uh we’ll be back for more as we have any uh any other breaking news and uh uh keep an eye on what else is happening from Donald Trump. Appreciate you guys.
Trump just fired the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics—for telling the truth about his disastrous economy. Tim Miller and Sarah Longwell take on Trump’s latest authoritarian tantrum, the jaw-dropping new jobs report, and why this move may push America into banana republic territory.
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Obviously if you have an unstable economy businesses are not going to hire. Duh!
Job numbers are revised all the time. Sometimes up sometimes down. Trump's policies are going to make the numbers bad for years too come.
Could you guys get Justin Wolfers on again? I'd be very interested in his thoughts and predictions here too.
How is this not libel?
Trump can't take truth or facts. America is doomed. We need Article 25 now!
Sounds like "The Great Leap Forward" in China, it led to everyone faking statistics up by ludicrous amounts, every person being forced full time nuts, bolts, paper clips for making steel and causing mass starvation
The Fascist's syphilis is kicking into high gear. Also, this is him trying to distract from Epstein. Don't let it happen.
Its going to be fun to see Congress and the Senate explain this 🎉🎉
Shoot the messenger.
How many people have been fired or left their jobs in the DOGE downsizing? I haven't seen these totals anywhere. I have heard that 1/3 of FEMA's job force is gone.
You cannot trust Trumpf's Federal Government! Get it right!!! You Cannot Trust Trumpf's Government!!!
But let's also remember that DeSantis fired his public health official when she wanted to report on covid deaths and illness. If you don't capture the data, then no one knows what's really going on.
Message from an Irish grandmother:
Trump Doesn’t Want to Lead America — He Wants to Rule It
Donald Trump doesn’t want to govern – he wants to dominate.
He dreams of an America where there are no checks on his power, no independent courts, no Constitution standing in his way. He wants judges who obey him, police who serve him and laws that only apply to his enemies.
Dissent? Crushed.
Accountability? Erased.
Corruption? Not just tolerated — rewarded.
This isn’t conservatism. It’s autocracy with a red hat.
Trump doesn’t want four more years. He wants to end the American experiment and replace it with a dictatorship — his.
Wake up people
Speak out
Silence is complicity.
I'm livid that Miller calmly accepted the validity of the false GOP talking point regarding the firing of the BLS chair. No, sir: what is supposedly OK as a rationale, firing all political appointees of a previous administration, is in fact the spoils system, which cost President Garfield his life. Civil service reform that has (had?) lasted for over a century since has given us professionalism, not loyalty in agency heads. Let's not dignify this talking point, even if he is correct that even it is a lie. Trump is this bad.
The destruction of the public service done by this regime is going to take decades to fix – let alone the trust in govt the people will lose in the next 3 1/2 years 😪😪😪
Finally a job opens up that’s perfect for Mike Lindell. He will give Taco the numbers he wants every month. Right to the end.
If I were you that has a voice, I would panic now.
He's firing all the messengers. Trump is Orwell's Big Brother as far as the truth is concerned. It's The Truth according to Trump, and nobody but Trump. He's king of Trumplandia, after all.
TRUMP and his administration are a total joke !!!
He keeps digging his own grave………
Trump could got harder on tariffs since he thinks they create jobs. And If the guy driving the bus is covering his eyes things go real bad fast!!
There was a recession in manufacturing in 2019 before covid happened – if it hadn't happened, there could have been a nation wide recession 😡
Just like any good dictator would do.
It'll only get worse.
We've seen him do this before with the US Ambassador to Ukraine, one of his cretins said she released job numbers that made him look bad and he just said to sack her. Madness.
Did Musk's guys have anything to do with the previous 'pumped up' figures??
It's a little surprising they weren't already mostly fired by DOGE.
Numbers matter. Take the number “4” and put it in front years. Four years is a very long time.
Trump is kinda mad. However, I was just thinking, the thing he needs now is a BIG distraction. What about a war, maybe with Russia. I wonder if that would be enough to get jobs going and Epstein forgotten.
This is really serious. You need independent data collection. You do not want companies or government making up numbers. That is what happens in small corrupt countries. I know, I was an international data analyst until retirement. It is a form of lying and companies and governments do get caught. Big business should be calling this out. The US has never been the best data collector because it relies on surveys and updates. Still it has always been independent of business or political influence.
You’re acting like this is the first time that tRump has fired someone for doing their job appropriately. It is not … duh … so what do we do about it?!! Can we unearth the data and expose it even if he closes the Bureau of Labor Statistics, or is it just another MAGA win?!! I was pissed before your podcast and you’ve added nothing to the conversation.
The USA is on a fast track to becoming a third world country. Good job.
73K jobs will also be adjusted downward. Oh, maybe not now! But 19k to14k , is not going to lead to 73k. Losingiest loser loses lots lying. Precious stock values are in a casino lookin- thru- your- fingers mode where they should be cuz they supported this doo ! 😮
Canada alone is causing a lot of the losses in jobs in the U.S. with their boycotts of travel to the U.S. & their provinces no longer selling U.S. alcohol & Canadians refusing to buying U.S. products & food whenever possible.
According to recent data, Canadian boycotts on US travel and goods have put a significant number of American jobs at risk. Some estimates suggest a potential loss of up to 140,000 to 280,000 jobs, primarily in the tourism and travel sectors. Canada is the #1 country for visitors going to the U.S. & many of them typically go to the U.S. for large periods of time, so the loss of money at grocery stores, restaurants, casinos etc… cannot even be calculated.
Then you have all of the other international travellers who have stopped going to the U.S. because of Trump's tariffs & Nazi like immigration policies.
Also, some estimates suggest that a retaliatory ban by Canadian provinces on US liquor products could threaten up to 17,000 American jobs. This is due to a projected $2.7 billion loss in economic output, primarily affecting the wine and spirits industry.
There is no estimate that I know of for U.S. jobs lost due to Canadians across the country not buying U.S. products; but I guarantee you that it too is very significant, as the U.S' number 1 client in the world.
Again he is shooting the messanger instead of working on the message.
Why are you so surprised when the narcissist seeks the prime aims of Control, fuel and residual benefits? Trump has no empathy. He does not care about you. He is in for himself, because he thinks he should rule the world. He is gas lighting you! He does not care about the data! The Empire is in decline.
My only criticism is I think you are being a bit conservative in your view. In times this volatile and uncertain, if you were a CEO, would you be hiring?
No amount of gaslighting makes food cheaper.
Eventually DjT will find out from all the forking around. At least, we can always hope.
Now he wants to cook the books for the U.S. government. I will never trust a single data point released by this administration.
Shoot the messenger.
Welcome to Moscow
Maybe he can get his sharpie out and change the curve again.
Moving subs and firing this person are both distractions to stop you talking about Epstein. He’d even risk a war direct with Russia to change the narrative!! Wrecking an individuals life by sacking them wouldn’t even give him one seconds thought.
Also, lots of missing data during term one. Don't forget CDC and other agency data is being scrubbed as well.
This entire administration is either incredibly stupid or they're intentionally trying to crash the economy.
Trump is a businessman? He is a BAD businessman and if it is not serious grifting opportunity for him – He is not into it. Also — The tariff money goes into a "slush fund " of sorts right??? So Trump can give it to friends or whoever he wants votes from. Right??? Check that with your dad, the finance guy, Tim!?
Sounds like covid info
In the Midwest there have been lots of layoffs.
The Dear Leader is smarter than anyone. __ 7-months and he's been gifted a FREE 747, Millions in Bribes, fired 165,000 federal employees, Eliminated 80,000 VA workers and budget, privatized Social Security, Cut Medicare and Medicaid, cratering the markets, bombed Iran, eliminated PBS, made harvard, columbia and numerous law firms and broadcast networks Pay Him…AND created a Gestapo Secret police force AND building himself an $800 Million Ballroom while threatening Russia with Nuke submarines like a Boss. Thank You Dear Leader for making America Great Again Again
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