NHS doesn’t need more money – it will be wasted on bureaucracy, says Reform UK
NHS doesn’t need more money – it will be wasted on bureaucracy, says Reform UK
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NHS doesn’t need more money – it will be wasted on bureaucracy, says Reform UK
NHS doesn’t need more money – it will be wasted on bureaucracy, says Reform UK
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The NHS “doesn’t need more money” but should be buying millions more procedures and consultations from private healthcare firms, according to Reform UK’s deputy leader.
[Richard Tice](https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/richard-tice-reform-nothing-like-germany-far-right-afd-3551020?ico=in-line_link) said the NHS’s problem is not funding but inefficiency. “Most of the people I talk to in the NHS say the NHS has got plenty of money,” he told *The i Paper.*
The comments from the 60-year-old, who does not deny he wants to be the next chancellor, come in a wide-ranging interview in which he also discussed the tax and spending cuts a Reform government would aim to make.
But it is his thoughts on the health service that Reform’s political opponents are most likely to seize on in the week that it [extended its lead over Labour to a record 9 percentage points](https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Finews.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Freform-nine-point-lead-labour-boost-farage-no10-hopes-3838300&data=05%7C02%7CWilliam.Stewart%40theipaper.com%7C9e88ebf1941a4bd1cc3908ddd19ff190%7C0f3a4c644dc54a768d4152d85ca158a5%7C0%7C0%7C638897207371049011%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=w6Ttw8MfAgdLwMIzkE3bVGxwRm3uIJOsgQ%2Fa%2BVIyha4%3D&reserved=0).
They [see the NHS as a weakness for a party led by Nigel Farage](https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/wes-streeting-nigel-farage-pay-nhs-3612548?srsltid=AfmBOoonSi7lWVquQdcTHHiX7bY6vxy2iJy4ZvH6_avVPMeqzlur1OKg&ico=in-line_link), who once said the UK would “have to move to an insurance-based system of healthcare” and has said this year that the NHS “funding model” should be rethought, but remain free at the point of use.
Tice also emphasised Reform’s support for the core principle of free healthcare and said he did not agree with the IMF, which recently called for the government to consider charging wealthier patients for some NHS treatments.
This I kind of agree with.
There needs to be some serious changes within the NHS otherwise you can throw as much money at it as you like and it won’t improve. Not necessarily bureaucracy but definitely it’s over reliance on private companies for example
Having worked back-office (CSU) for the NHS. That is entirely correct. When you see the underbelly of what is an outstanding frontline organisation, you are constantly staggered.
Bollocks.
True we don’t need much more money *directly*, what we need is more front line staff, ambulances, techs and equipment upgrades… which all needs money.
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He added: “The NHS should be procuring much more of its activities from the independent healthcare sector – it should be buying millions more operations, scans and consultations from the independent sector, which is just more productive.”
We already do buy a ton of services from the private sector because we don’t have the resources to meet demand, **but this costs us more than buying in house.** And people have noticed that they often see the same staff in private and NHS, main reason here is that the staff get paid more in private so NHS staff will take on additional hours in private to be able to earn a living wage.
I will also agree that the NHS is top heavy, you want to know why? Because each new government insists on making changes which adds more managers, EVERY DAMN TIME! Many of those in Reform are directly at fault for this when they was MP’s in other parties.
NHS needs a top-down audit and get rid of money sinks.
The NHS is underfunded. Health care is expensive. The Germans, the Swiss and the French are all quoted as examples of countries with better health care. They all pay more, and in the case of the Swiss much more. The Tories have spent 15 years underfunding and undermining the NHS. Of course it needs improvement and that has already started.
Farage wants to sell the NHS to the American health insurance companies just like he wants to undermine British agriculture with US trade deals. And whatever Reform say now about free healthcare at the point of delivery, they are lying.
Posh twat doesn’t want universal healthcare. What a shocker!
I say this as someone from the inside. There is definitely too much bureaucracy but the money is also mismanaged.
There are no efficiency drives in Hospitals for example.
We need NHS property services to plan years in advance for clinics, surgeries etc.
There is enough funding, but lots of it is being poorly spent.
These people do want the NHS refunded so it will fail, thus paving the way for a US private health care system.
Not wrong. See all public services.
So he wants the medical staff to do all the paperwork? Lol .
I’m sure there are things that can be improved, the lack of a centralised purchasing approach nationwide seems weird , buying in bulk would give much better bargaining power.
they want private healthcare and to destroy the NHS.
Yeah, bcs they’re soooo trustworthy 🙄. It’s aTrump special. Promise solutions and deliver nothing other than richer rich people.
Oh good. I was worried that them publicly supporting repealing the ‘porn ban’ would get them enough votes from the young to get them into power. Thankfully, there’s this massive mis-step.
It needs both, it first needs reforms to their wasteful spending, which is really seriously bad in most institutions, like NHS, universities, councils etc. then it needs more money, both are true, we don’t spend enough on it but we also don’t cut enough costs, so if we gave them more money it would be wasted, but that doesn’t mean we don’t need to give them more after fixing their spending.
Broad criticism, say you’ll only change it for the better, all the good things will still be there, we’ll just get rid of the bad things.
Like, saying that Brexit will mean a Norway or Switzerland type deal, no one is talking about leaving the single market, until you win, then it always meant no deal, leaving on WTO terms, Brexit means Brexit, dry your salty tears you remoaner.
So, expect lots of talk of “French style” mixed funding, using spare private sector capacity, until they win or get an opportunity to be in a coalition, then it will always have meant scrapping the NHS, no more “free at the point of need”, an American style system, and never you mind how much private health providers have donated to the party, we won you lost, nhs-exit means nhs-exit, stop being such a health-moaner with your salty tears.
You want to fix the nhs, you end outsourcing, you end private contracts, you end PFI and saddling authorities with long term debts. You invest in training and recruitment of clinicians, you pay clinicians well enough that the NHS becomes the gold standard and not the subject of talent drain. You accept that you need spare capacity in good times in order to cope during bad times.
You’ll miss it when it’s gone.
The legacy of those who fought in WW2 wasn’t just defeating fascism. It was the welfare state, the NHS. They planted trees that many never got to lie in the shade of. If your legacy is destroying everything they gave us, then you’re the selfish generation.
The NHS is setting fire to money everyday. This won’t change until each trust is audited from top to bottom. Unfortunately don’t see that happening.
As much as I hate to agree with Reform, I don’t disagree about The bureaucracy part, but the NHS absolutely needs more funding to get additional staff, to get better equipment etc.
What the NHS needs is a top to bottom audit, to get rid of pointless stuff that is draining money, standardise on practices across all trusts, maybe even combine a few trusts to save money.
The NHS needs more funding on getting more GPs, sorting dentistry out, doing more work with mental health, and more, so that people are seen to before it gets to the stage where hospital intervention is required.
This is just the ramblings of a party that wants a American style system, and lets being honest, Labour are handing the next election to them of a gold platter atm.
Ah yes, cut down on bureaucracy, just like those Reform local councillors are – by hiring advisors and increasing allowances. Let’s not get started about the cost of having new elections when they resign because the Mrs can’t now enter a garden competition.
Whilst private companies already do operations for the NHS, they pick the easiest ones so still make huge profits.
Absolute shite – the NHS administration costs as a percentage of overall spend are some of the lowest in Europe.
What is desperately needed is staff and capital investment. Paying workers enough to not have to pay inflated bank staffing costs. Paying sufficient that highly qualified doctors don’t flee the country to take up better paying less stressed jobs abroad. Investing in the infrastructure?
Or we could go with the privatised – for profit version that Reform want.
The NHS doesn’t spend an excessive amount on bureaucracy.
Reform want to sack managers, hire surgeons, and then wonder why surgeons are spending time doing admin.
If the NHS has “plenty of money,” then why would they need to outsource even more services to private companies?
Why can’t they use some of that “spare money” to hire more people to make the current system run more efficiently?
Why would we instead give more access to the greedy private healthcare companies that have for decades been circling our beloved NHS like vultures.
We’re not fucking stupid. You fuckers are opportunists who see the NHS as just another market to exploit.
Ask yourselves this: When, in the entirety of human existence, has a corporation *not* sought to maximise shareholder profits?
They don’t give a fuck about “efficiency” of service. They care only about the efficiency of profitability! Anyone who naively believes we would follow a European healthcare model is a fucking fool because our politicians are in the pockets of AMERICAN healthcare companies and that’s what we will get if we lose the NHS.
For the 99% of comments here that didn’t read the article and are instead just barking the same rhetoric.
Richard Tice suggests cutting down on middle management within the NHS and then using the funds to pay for private services to reduce burden on the NHS.
Reform is just a British version of the Republican Party. If you think Labour is bad, let these guys run the UK for a couple of years. With Brexit they would be less migrants? The money saved on Brussels would be used for a lot of things for British people? This is a club of far right elitist bankers. They care a penny about the average Brit!
Hes got a point tbf
We need to make healthcare insurance companies richer. The American model is a proven model that is loved by the American people.
We should be a profit before the health of our neighbours first society! Reform all the way.
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