A “political blackmail” – the EU Parliament is pressing for new mandatory scanning of your private chats

https://www.techradar.com/computing/cyber-security/a-political-blackmail-the-eu-parliament-is-pressing-for-new-mandatory-scanning-of-your-private-chats

by EmbarrassedHelp

26 comments

  1. > As reported by digital rights group Netzpolitik, during the meeting held on July 11, the Parliament threatened to block an extension of the current voluntary scanning interim regulation – a temporary law that enables messaging providers to scan their users’ chats if they wish so – unless the Council agrees to mandatory scanning.

    The EU parliament is apparently threatening to ban voluntary mass surveillance unless the EU Council agrees to mandatory encryption backoors through client side scanning.

  4. **If you live in the EU, please contact your government representatives!**

    If you are from France, Denmark, Ireland, Hungary, Spain, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Portugal, Malta, or Sweden, tell your government to stop supporting Chat Control.

    If you live in Germany, Czechia, Romania, Greece, Estonia, Finland, Belgium, Luxembourg, then your leaders haven’t decided whether or not to support it yet. Tell them to reject authoritarianism and vote against Chat Control.

    If you live in Poland, Austria, or the Netherlands, take some time to send a message to your leaders in support of them rejecting Chat Control.

    * If you are unsure of what to say in your messages to your leaders, there are resources here that should help: https://chatcontrol.eu/

    You should also contact the permanent representation of your country with the EU: https://op.europa.eu/en/web/who-is-who/organization/-/organization/COREPER/

    * Additionally if you or your company are currently working with the “child protection” company known as ‘[Thorn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(organization))’, you need to drop them immediately. They are one of the main groups lobbying for this.

  5. This would be the death of the EU. I will start to campaign for leaving the union if it goes through.

    I’ve been fully in support of the EU up until this. Be warned.

  6. But a majority of the Europeans voted for this, didn’t they? If they had not voted for this, the EU would not be democratic, and that cannot be!!!1!

  7. Headlines 1 year from now: “Shocking rise of far-right parties leaves Europeans baffled.”

  8. I was pro EU but with all this anti privacy nonsense and bending over for american cock i’d rather my country stay out and stay a oh so evil “neutral country”

  9. Has a Citizen’s Initiative been started against this?

  10. I dont know about all of you but I will just start client-side encrypting

  11. And the worst thing about this – when Euro-skeptics (who are quite numerous in my country) use this as an argument, it’s really hard arguing against that. We fended off this 1984 BS so many times already and it still keeps coming. They can keep pushing it forever, but we only get to lose once and it’s over. The injustice of this is staggering and it feels hopeless.

    I organized contacting of politicians and MEPs the last two times this came up and I will be doing it again this time. But I’m losing hope and motivation.

    Also, if you haven’t check out [Patrick Breyer’s blog](https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/). He does excellent coverage of this topic and he’s one of the reasons why we even know and talk about this at all.

  13. >The Danish version of the so-called Chat Control could be adopted as early as October 14, 2025

    It won’t be in force for at least another 2 years. And that’s assuming it won’t be pushed back or shot down by the courts.

    >As reported by digital rights group Netzpolitik, during the meeting held on July 11, the Parliament threatened to block an extension of the current voluntary scanning interim regulation – a temporary law that enables messaging providers to scan their users’ chats if they wish so – unless the Council agrees to mandatory scanning.

    >”This political blackmail forces a bad choice and contradicts the Parliament’s own stated position against mass scanning,” former MEP for the German Pirate Party, Patrick Breyer, told TechRadar.

    I’m genuinely curious to know what happened here. The bill that the parliament approved was very different from what the Commission wanted. Literally only 2 people voted against it. We had elections in the middle of all this, but this is an insane 180 if true. It’s also hard to believe that this is the position of LIBE. Once the Council approves their version (if they do), LIBE and the Council will have to come to an aggrement and present a final version to the parliament. And even then, I don’t think that the parliament will approve mandatory scanning. I’m genuinely curious as to who supposedly said this to the Council.

    And threatening to ban voluntary scanning in order to adopt mandatory scanning makes no sense. The parliament defends exactly voluntary scanning for Chat Control.

  14. oh my god just fuck off eu like who needs this shit

  15. Can we… Stop voting this every 2 months? Just put it in a grave and never dig it up again

  16. So much for democracy and liberty. One month is all it took to dismantle the whole internet and turn it into something the Stasi would blush over. Petitions don’t help either, the British government straight up said no. 

    Democracy and “liberty” is a fucking sham 

  17. The same EU who brought Europe: “The free movement of people.”

  18. Will Europeans have any rights left at this pace ? It’s just one thing after another

  19. How about no? I vehemently oppose this.

    Anyone has a link to find out whom to reach for my country’s representation?

  20. Well it’s only going to be used to catch pedos, so I have no issue with it. It’s automated scanning so your privacy won’t be violated in any way.

  21. Headlines in one year “50 Million Private Chats Leaked And Sold, Impacting Over 150 Million European Users in Devastating Chat Control Hack”

    Then “Millions Of Corporate Messages Leaked, Including Sensitive Communications from Europe’s Leading Tech Firms”

    PRIVACY IS A FUCKING HUMAN RIGHT

  23. I noticed we probably don’t even need an EU commission anymore.

  24. I asked O3 what are the chances it will morph into a surveillance state mechanism .

    It said:

    **So unless the proposal is radically narrowed or defeated, the odds that it morphs into a broad surveillance tool within the decade are better than even—closer to 70-80 %.**

  25. It is so frustrating that they claim to do this to protect kids from abuse. Meanwhile our Belgium government keeps ‘saving’ on social work which is crucial to prevent and catch abuse. My parent worked as a social worker and it is really bad, they are abandoning the most vulnerable children and ‘saving’ on them

  26. And wait for the digital euro:
    – real time tracking of all transactions
    – payment blocking, they can simply create a list of allowed addresses, and those would be the only ones you will be able to send money to
    – instant, zero friction , even automatic funds freeze
    – programmable money, expiry dates , spending caps for certain categories.

    All can and eventually will be scanned by more and more powerful AIs . They will know more about you than you know yourself.

    Chat control + digital euro + Ai = complete and total control, unprecedented in the whole of human history.

    They can even run sentiment analysis that will tell them exactly what they need to do to stay reasonably popular, so they can maintain elections, and the pretence to be a democracy.

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