Ban trans women from single-sex spaces, equality watchdog to say
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/trans-women-single-sex-spaces-ban-lr3hbgjzs
by Ver_Void
Ban trans women from single-sex spaces, equality watchdog to say
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/trans-women-single-sex-spaces-ban-lr3hbgjzs
by Ver_Void
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Have they just gone mask off misogynist or is the headline wrong?
That headline sounds harsh, all single-sex spaces?
But with a serious comment for a second here, this sort of thing is what lead to a good friend of mine to take her own life, where she was from trans women were banned from women only spaces and men didn’t want her in their spaces either, so much so that she would get beatings when trying to use the toilet so in the end she stopped using public restrooms.
The rhetoric got so bad that her parents didn’t want her to use the families main bathroom when guests where in the house incase they saw her use it and didn’t want her to be in the house alone with her younger brother incase she influenced him and it was soon after that incident where she took her own life.
Edit: Thank you for the DMs, to answer your questions this was a few years ago and shes sorely missed
**services will be allowed to request birth certificates to ensure single-sex services are protected.**
So if you are a CIS female who doesn’t conform to the expectation of someone’s model of being female, you will need to bring a birth certificate to use the toilets in a cinema.
Also some trans women have had their birth certificate changed to reflect their correct gender
Equality. You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
We really are TERF Island aren’t we?
Fucking disgusing. I feel like every week there’s a new reason to be ashamed of this country.
More discrimination at government level they are already of a watch list for genocide against transgender people in Europe They are 1% of the population the government is trying to eradicate from society like in Russia.
The government needs to stop it’s constant bullying of a tiny minority of people and leave them alone to get on with their lives.
Why are we becoming so evil…
The world is heading down a sad path.
I’m sure the women who don’t want to share spaces with trans women will be so much happier when they get to share them with trans men instead.
They can fuck off. Unless they’re going to start checking the genitals and paperwork of every who uses the women’s toilets, they’ve no chance of enforcing this.
I’m very quickly becoming ashamed of my country. It’s like we’ve lost our compassion and empathy.
I don’t quite believe the equality watchdog knows what it’s job is
New plan… Ban ALL single sex spaces… Everything is individual, toilets, changing rooms, whatever else is broken up by biological sex for no reason
I think whats telling in this is that it’s always Trans-Women. The focus is always on M2F trans people and its mental.
My Brother in Law seems to think all Trans people want to go into toilets to assault and look at other peoples genitals. The perception of what it is to be trans and what it feels like is utterly ignored to cater to the feelings of people who cant dont and wont understand.
Its a fucking travesty and a society level hate crime.
As ive said to my Bil;
Trans people want to do a wee or a poo. Thats it.
Ive never seen a guy in a bog looking at someone’s genitals, or even seen anyones genitals at in a bot in 40 years or life.
Hes never ever met a trans person, what would he know?
I can see how you might want to ban people who only self-identify as female but have had no HRT or surgery as they could be abused more easily. Banning all trans women is just dumb, maybe men don’t want a person who looks like a woman going into their toilets either, which isn’t considered in this judgement.
I hope most people simply won’t report it and most venues won’t enforce this if it becomes law.
This government is turning full fascist.
Instead of taxing the oh so precious billionaires they go after every far right hoax there is which of course isn’t gonna solve anything.
They’re trying to beat Reform by becoming Reform themselves.
Labour will never get my vote ever again. Neither will any other mainstream party. Time to vote independent.
Congrats TERFs, you’ve made life worse for objectively every woman, and made questioning their gender socially enforced.
Women will now be judged at all times in terms of their value and utility to the patriachy, and punished and harassed should they not meet beauty standards or conform to gender expectations.
Society will now be actively hostile to GNC women.
>A source with knowledge of the consultation told The Times: “The law is the law, and the law’s not going to change.”
It just did though, why can’t it change again?
>Campaigners have accused the EHRC of “ignoring” their views because it used artificial intelligence to categorise the replies to the consultation. Insiders said this was a practice that had been rolled out across government departments to save civil servants’ time.
A source at a national LGBT organisation familiar with the guidance said: “The EHRC received 50,000 responses to its consultation, and to consider them all in the past 27 working days would have required reviewing over 1,850 submissions a day.
Of course they did. The venn diagram of bigots and deepthroating AI is a circle.
For full avoidance of doubt, since it gets shouted down whenever this topic gets brought up in this sub:
This is the the *most* regressive position on this among all countries in Western Europe.
Looking at Europe as a whole, the only countries with a more regressive position on trans people are Russia, Georgia, Hungary and Bulgaria.
Men’s spaces will be rebranded to “Other” and become the catch all.
Then some men won’t use those services due to being uncomfortable.
If a rich bellend with nothing better to do except post on Twitter gets involved then the cycle will start again
Equality. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
I wonder what posseses certain people to be so hateful and vindictive they go to these lengths.
Where are the ghouls who have popped up on this sub on basically every trans story? Are you happy now?
Are they going to have genital inspectors at the door? “Show me your fanny or you ain’t getting in!”
I like the hand wringing about how they “have to do what the law says” even though in many cases where they’re using that reasoning:
a/ The law *doesn’t* say that, never said that, and was never intended to say that
b/ Even the Supreme Court’s ruling *about* the law despite the fact it plainly misinterprets portions of the law and disregards the known intent *doesn’t say that*
They think we’re thick. This was all pointed out to them probably thousands of times in the consultation responses *and they should have known anyway*. But it doesn’t matter, because nobody in power has the courage or leadership to say “this isn’t right and we shouldn’t treat people this way,” because there’s few enough trans people and dedicated allies that they can freely get way with appeasing a hate movement that’s successfully been sane washed by the British press
This is so stupid and will have soooo many unintended consequences beyond just trans-hate.
It will only be enforced by people who hate trans people and will be pointed at other people they think do not conform, regardless of their ‘transness’
I first learned about trans people back in the eighties. I had just started working and was working on the installation of some tourist displays.
One of the people who was working on the lights had recently transitioned to a woman. I didn’t realise but my coworker was fucking horrible to her.
Up until then anything like that had been a joke to me, I had just never thought about it as anything else, because nothing from anything but the hard drinking country life had been part of my life.
Honestly, the look on her face and more importantly in her eyes when he wouldn’t leave her alone broke my fucking heart.
I told my co worker to leave her the fuck alone, and he said “it’s nothing to do with him looking like a woman, he was a cunt before he changed”
But he was lying, I knew him well enough to know that. And he hurt her real good for no reason what so ever.
That situation literally changed my life. I was seventeen and now, decades later I can still see the hurt in her eyes and the hear the pleading in her voice to just be left alone to do her job.
That’s not good enough, that’s not the way people should be made to feel.
Kishwer Falkner pushing her agenda again.
*suprise*
Given this is coming just after that hugely misreported story about a trans woman member of staff in M&S offering to fit a teenage girl for a bra (the actual story being she was just a regular member of staff who just asked the girl and her mum if they needed any help; she didn’t do bra fittings as part of her job anyway and a shop floor is not a single sex space, but the mum freaked right the fuck out and made out this was some terrible pervert offering to feel up a 14-year-old’s boobs) I can’t help feeling this is all ramping up again even more. Considering trans people are such a small minority they really do occupy oversized headspace for some people…but like immigrants they’re a good distraction from the real problems in society
Spicy take: Know that we will never, ever, ever root out the TERF epidemic as long as misandry is socially acceptable. Their entire rhetoric rests on being amab making you uniquely evil, predatory and dangerous.
If you don’t let them have that argument, it all falls apart pretty quickly – but if you’re agreeing with them on that, but that it’s the *gender identity* that makes you dangerous, not the biological sex, you’re fighting on their court.
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