People think they’re the entertainment now, they’re part of the show
Not exactly the same thing but we have noticed (anecdotally) that our students are less socially able in the current cohort compared to previously.
Lots more social anxiety and inappropriate classroom behaviors. Seems that when you lock away a population for an extended period of time it has social implications.
I work in the theatre and I’ve never seen so much bad behaviour. The ushers seem to break up at least one drunken punch up (mid show!) a week & we’ve had people try to get on stage and have conversations with the actors. Things that used to be once in a blue moon events you’d talk about forever are getting to be regular occurrences. It’s a little bit scary tbh.
>“He shouted: ‘To be completely honest with you, my friend bought these
tickets, and I thought I had tickets to see Romesh [Ranganathan],” Kumar
said. He responded by explaining to the audience why the comment could
be construed as racist and moved on.
I feel it might be a bit rich of Nish Kumar to take issue with that joke considering I’ve seen him make the same joke on TV several times.
Just wait till we have people who have never worked in an office then joining an office environment after working for 5-10 years from home and they have no idea how to be a decent person. people have turned into entitled assholes in 2 years just wait till it’s longer.
Imagine getting heckled so badly you have to appear in a guardian article about it.
Not just me then? We’ve noticed a marked increased in anti social behaviour, abuse and threats from the public on the railways too. It’s not great. I’ve almost stopped working extra shifts on weekends now because of it.
People are angry and upset. The world and country are in slow collapse and people can tell.
At the same time we encouraged the dumbest and loudest parts of society to constantly give their opinion, and the constant veneration of these people as bastions of free speech. Anyone with a dumb opinion gets told theyre a hero for having it. You can even see the defending in the comments.
Ive definitely noticed it everywhere – drivers are insane now. Everyone becomes upset over any tiny minor inconvenience. Everyone feels justified in complaining because they are always rewarded.
I dunno just feels like the social ties that bind us are being diluted. Being abandoned by the government is causing serious issues at every level of society.
Funny how no one is mentioning how a comedian literally got slapped in the face recently. Im pretty sure thats making a lot of people feel more confident in harassing comedians. Also wasnt heckling always a thing?
Its definitely been happening in theatre and cinemas too, from personal experience, and from an upsurge in cast members tweeting about awful behaviour, videos of shows being stopped and actors telling people to leave, people arriving late and just talking and having no awareness of other people’s experience at all
I went to see Derren Brown last year and there was one couple who were clearly drunk and got up and left halfway through (thank god) and there was a lot of heckling. I’ve seen all his previous live shows and never experienced heckling. Then the following performance there was apparently a fight in the stalls. I imagine because he’s more famous now he perhaps attracts people who are maybe less interested and just going because they recognise him off the TV, but Jesus Christ.
That said, about ten years ago I went to see the musical of Dirty Dancing and people were acting like they were at a music festival, it was bizarre AF. There will always be a subset of people who don’t know how to behave in the theatre but I believe the theatres when they say it’s getting worse.
My boyfriend is a dj is getting similar on almost a nightly basis.
Clubs tend to have a brief and its frowned upon to leave that brief (i. E if its 80s he cant play drake)
Rather than find a club with different music alot of punters start gettibg angry and threatening violence.
Hes left a club night before becaise a ounter started to try and smash his lights and it took security too long to intervene. The only brightside is the owner paid him in full dispite playing less than half the set we was meant to.
The two extremes tend ti either be people in their 50s or young under 20s. For the latter we think, thanks to covid they havent learnt how to behave on a night out and are taking the wrong lessons from either the 50+ crowd or from their also inexperienced peers.
I think it was happening before lockdown. It’s possible that as everyone looks at politics, corporatism, low wages, shortages, stupid house prices, etc, everyone is getting meaner. It’s like there’s some sort of feedback loop of awfulness, where everyone is becoming more and more self interested.
I have been to two comedy nights recently with extremely disruptive hecklers. Basically people in the audience that just won’t shut up and think they are part of the act. They were constantly derailing the routines and upsetting the timing of jokes across multiple comics. The common denominator was the hecklers were extremely pissed.
I do go to quite a lot of comedy nights though it’s still quite rare to see this sort of thing so not sure this is really a new trend. I just think sometimes you get unlucky.
There’s a video where a guy from the audience walks up to the comic and slaps him.
There certainly seems to be a lot of something in the air since the lifting of lockdowns, see football violence increasing as an example… think there’s probably similar happening in town centres on a weekend too as a result of drinking.
I saw Katherine Ryan’s show a few weeks ago. Nothing like this happened. No mysogyny, nobody complaining she wasn’t Catherine Tate.
Of course it would take a brave person to heckle her. But mainly I think it was because she was very funny.
Went to see Two Pints With Will And Ralf the other week in York and there was a group off pissed up woman that kept interrupting Will and Ralf and the staff did fuck all about it. I’d been looking forward to the show for so long and I nearly left after the first half.
Not surprised, in the hospitality industry people have generally been pretty awful.
After the first lockdown I thought people would be relieved to be out the house and able to do something normal again, instead people behaved like animals, particularly during scoff to cough, and any rules, particularly related to COVID, were met with vitriol and abuse at the worst of times, and casual dismissiveness at the best.
Those behaviours have continued but towards rules in general, not just the former COVID restrictions, and the expectations people have of their experience out is often completely unrealistic, and a polite explanation of the issues we’re currently facing is usually seen as antagonistic.
I also don’t understand how people have spent the last two years locked away reading about the nationwide issues with worker numbers, especially in this industry (chefs!), supply chains, cost of fuel, inflation etc and then completely fly off the handle like it’s my fault when there’s 1 item missing off the menu that they like, they have to pay 20p more for a pint than before, and they have to order at the bar because we don’t have the staff to do full table service outside.
I expect most people with public facing roles have had a similar experience over the last couple of years.
I have second hand embarrassment from anyone who tries to heckle a comedian. They’ve saw the Jimmy Carr montages on YouTube and think they can repeat it even though not every comedian appreciates it and even audience members can get sick of it.
Just shut the fuck up and let the professionals do their job.
In the case of Nish Kumar, it may because he is about as funny as a cold sore.
I was at the theatre the other night and commented that no one had any theatre etiquette anymore. So many people chatting throughout the performance, rattling snack wrappers, getting up to go to the toilet every 10 minutes. It was really distracting and disrespectful to the performers 😡
So many people in the cinema over the last year were on their phones almost constantly or talking through the film. There is no signal in my local cinema so they just try and refresh over and over again but it doesn’t load. One girl I saw got so bored of refreshing her Instagram that she started reading a pdf of the Quran right in the middle of Spiderman
I think some of the “forgetting how to behave” had become quite evident when post lockdown, people were descending on public parks and just leaving mountains of garbage rather than taking it with them.
It’s interesting reading some of these anecdotes.. I’ve not found driving to be significantly more challenging post-lockdown than it was pre-lockdown and I drive on some of the busiest roads in the UK. I also attended a concert at Birmingham Symphony Hall a few months ago.. it was a full house and I didn’t see anything at any point that felt like people had lost their grip on what and wasn’t acceptable… it felt great to just be out doing something normal, frankly, amongst other people.
Saw Nish on tour recently. Was a good show and I laughed at lot. There however was a moment during a sensitive, poignant moment in the show (not wanting to give away spoilers here but if you’ve seen it you’ll know) where Nish had to stop his routine because some guy had his phone out because he wanted to take a picture. Nish to his immense credit, said to him, “look I don’t mind you taking a picture, but this is the moment you’re choosing do that.” Considering what he was talking about on stage, it was totally inappropriate.
I was at the Cheltenham gig, I had no idea what had happened the night before in Shrewsbury.
It baffles my mind that the guy felt the need to shout that out and then the woman who said he was being overly sensitive was just an idiot.
All respect to Nish as he carried on the show after, you could see that he was really taken aback by it. Still a good night despite those twats.
Probably doesn’t help that the most televised event in the last couple of years was a comic getting slapped by some entitled douche that didn’t like a joke and then got an award five minutes later.
Pretty sure tiktok has something to do with it too. The amount of “Heckler gets owned by comedian” is insane and I bet people want to copy this shit.
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People think they’re the entertainment now, they’re part of the show
Not exactly the same thing but we have noticed (anecdotally) that our students are less socially able in the current cohort compared to previously.
Lots more social anxiety and inappropriate classroom behaviors. Seems that when you lock away a population for an extended period of time it has social implications.
I work in the theatre and I’ve never seen so much bad behaviour. The ushers seem to break up at least one drunken punch up (mid show!) a week & we’ve had people try to get on stage and have conversations with the actors. Things that used to be once in a blue moon events you’d talk about forever are getting to be regular occurrences. It’s a little bit scary tbh.
>“He shouted: ‘To be completely honest with you, my friend bought these
tickets, and I thought I had tickets to see Romesh [Ranganathan],” Kumar
said. He responded by explaining to the audience why the comment could
be construed as racist and moved on.
I feel it might be a bit rich of Nish Kumar to take issue with that joke considering I’ve seen him make the same joke on TV several times.
Just wait till we have people who have never worked in an office then joining an office environment after working for 5-10 years from home and they have no idea how to be a decent person. people have turned into entitled assholes in 2 years just wait till it’s longer.
Imagine getting heckled so badly you have to appear in a guardian article about it.
Not just me then? We’ve noticed a marked increased in anti social behaviour, abuse and threats from the public on the railways too. It’s not great. I’ve almost stopped working extra shifts on weekends now because of it.
People are angry and upset. The world and country are in slow collapse and people can tell.
At the same time we encouraged the dumbest and loudest parts of society to constantly give their opinion, and the constant veneration of these people as bastions of free speech. Anyone with a dumb opinion gets told theyre a hero for having it. You can even see the defending in the comments.
Ive definitely noticed it everywhere – drivers are insane now. Everyone becomes upset over any tiny minor inconvenience. Everyone feels justified in complaining because they are always rewarded.
I dunno just feels like the social ties that bind us are being diluted. Being abandoned by the government is causing serious issues at every level of society.
Funny how no one is mentioning how a comedian literally got slapped in the face recently. Im pretty sure thats making a lot of people feel more confident in harassing comedians. Also wasnt heckling always a thing?
Its definitely been happening in theatre and cinemas too, from personal experience, and from an upsurge in cast members tweeting about awful behaviour, videos of shows being stopped and actors telling people to leave, people arriving late and just talking and having no awareness of other people’s experience at all
I went to see Derren Brown last year and there was one couple who were clearly drunk and got up and left halfway through (thank god) and there was a lot of heckling. I’ve seen all his previous live shows and never experienced heckling. Then the following performance there was apparently a fight in the stalls. I imagine because he’s more famous now he perhaps attracts people who are maybe less interested and just going because they recognise him off the TV, but Jesus Christ.
That said, about ten years ago I went to see the musical of Dirty Dancing and people were acting like they were at a music festival, it was bizarre AF. There will always be a subset of people who don’t know how to behave in the theatre but I believe the theatres when they say it’s getting worse.
My boyfriend is a dj is getting similar on almost a nightly basis.
Clubs tend to have a brief and its frowned upon to leave that brief (i. E if its 80s he cant play drake)
Rather than find a club with different music alot of punters start gettibg angry and threatening violence.
Hes left a club night before becaise a ounter started to try and smash his lights and it took security too long to intervene. The only brightside is the owner paid him in full dispite playing less than half the set we was meant to.
The two extremes tend ti either be people in their 50s or young under 20s. For the latter we think, thanks to covid they havent learnt how to behave on a night out and are taking the wrong lessons from either the 50+ crowd or from their also inexperienced peers.
I think it was happening before lockdown. It’s possible that as everyone looks at politics, corporatism, low wages, shortages, stupid house prices, etc, everyone is getting meaner. It’s like there’s some sort of feedback loop of awfulness, where everyone is becoming more and more self interested.
I have been to two comedy nights recently with extremely disruptive hecklers. Basically people in the audience that just won’t shut up and think they are part of the act. They were constantly derailing the routines and upsetting the timing of jokes across multiple comics. The common denominator was the hecklers were extremely pissed.
I do go to quite a lot of comedy nights though it’s still quite rare to see this sort of thing so not sure this is really a new trend. I just think sometimes you get unlucky.
There’s a video where a guy from the audience walks up to the comic and slaps him.
There certainly seems to be a lot of something in the air since the lifting of lockdowns, see football violence increasing as an example… think there’s probably similar happening in town centres on a weekend too as a result of drinking.
I saw Katherine Ryan’s show a few weeks ago. Nothing like this happened. No mysogyny, nobody complaining she wasn’t Catherine Tate.
Of course it would take a brave person to heckle her. But mainly I think it was because she was very funny.
Went to see Two Pints With Will And Ralf the other week in York and there was a group off pissed up woman that kept interrupting Will and Ralf and the staff did fuck all about it. I’d been looking forward to the show for so long and I nearly left after the first half.
Not surprised, in the hospitality industry people have generally been pretty awful.
After the first lockdown I thought people would be relieved to be out the house and able to do something normal again, instead people behaved like animals, particularly during scoff to cough, and any rules, particularly related to COVID, were met with vitriol and abuse at the worst of times, and casual dismissiveness at the best.
Those behaviours have continued but towards rules in general, not just the former COVID restrictions, and the expectations people have of their experience out is often completely unrealistic, and a polite explanation of the issues we’re currently facing is usually seen as antagonistic.
I also don’t understand how people have spent the last two years locked away reading about the nationwide issues with worker numbers, especially in this industry (chefs!), supply chains, cost of fuel, inflation etc and then completely fly off the handle like it’s my fault when there’s 1 item missing off the menu that they like, they have to pay 20p more for a pint than before, and they have to order at the bar because we don’t have the staff to do full table service outside.
I expect most people with public facing roles have had a similar experience over the last couple of years.
I have second hand embarrassment from anyone who tries to heckle a comedian. They’ve saw the Jimmy Carr montages on YouTube and think they can repeat it even though not every comedian appreciates it and even audience members can get sick of it.
Just shut the fuck up and let the professionals do their job.
In the case of Nish Kumar, it may because he is about as funny as a cold sore.
I was at the theatre the other night and commented that no one had any theatre etiquette anymore. So many people chatting throughout the performance, rattling snack wrappers, getting up to go to the toilet every 10 minutes. It was really distracting and disrespectful to the performers 😡
So many people in the cinema over the last year were on their phones almost constantly or talking through the film. There is no signal in my local cinema so they just try and refresh over and over again but it doesn’t load. One girl I saw got so bored of refreshing her Instagram that she started reading a pdf of the Quran right in the middle of Spiderman
I think some of the “forgetting how to behave” had become quite evident when post lockdown, people were descending on public parks and just leaving mountains of garbage rather than taking it with them.
It’s interesting reading some of these anecdotes.. I’ve not found driving to be significantly more challenging post-lockdown than it was pre-lockdown and I drive on some of the busiest roads in the UK. I also attended a concert at Birmingham Symphony Hall a few months ago.. it was a full house and I didn’t see anything at any point that felt like people had lost their grip on what and wasn’t acceptable… it felt great to just be out doing something normal, frankly, amongst other people.
Saw Nish on tour recently. Was a good show and I laughed at lot. There however was a moment during a sensitive, poignant moment in the show (not wanting to give away spoilers here but if you’ve seen it you’ll know) where Nish had to stop his routine because some guy had his phone out because he wanted to take a picture. Nish to his immense credit, said to him, “look I don’t mind you taking a picture, but this is the moment you’re choosing do that.” Considering what he was talking about on stage, it was totally inappropriate.
I was at the Cheltenham gig, I had no idea what had happened the night before in Shrewsbury.
It baffles my mind that the guy felt the need to shout that out and then the woman who said he was being overly sensitive was just an idiot.
All respect to Nish as he carried on the show after, you could see that he was really taken aback by it. Still a good night despite those twats.
Probably doesn’t help that the most televised event in the last couple of years was a comic getting slapped by some entitled douche that didn’t like a joke and then got an award five minutes later.
Pretty sure tiktok has something to do with it too. The amount of “Heckler gets owned by comedian” is insane and I bet people want to copy this shit.