‘We stand firm on clear Ukrainian positions’ — Zelensky warns Russia will reinvade if ceasefire favors Moscow, ahead of Trump-Putin meeting

https://kyivindependent.com/we-will-not-allow-russia-to-divide-ukraine-zelensky-says-following-talks-with-european-leaders-warns-russia-will-reinvade-if-peace-talks-favor-moscow/

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  1. Putin does not want ALL the territories, as it will generate political instability in the country itself. He wants specific and important territories for Russian protection against NATO expansion.
    As Russia doesn’t care at all about the ethical part. The tendency is for them to invade another nation like Georgia or Moldova next.

    The Baltic countries I find unfeasible, more likely Russia will take a friendly approach with Poland, and ignore Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia.

    Of course, it’s just my guess, if anyone finds something different, I’m happy to read it.

  2. The orange one is… I have no words to describe how I feel not just about him, but the fuck-nuggets who voted for him…

  3. Seriously, they’ll make up some excuse to invade again after they licked their wounds. This current “operation” was under the guise of de-nazifying Ukraine.

  4. Look Russia is the belligerent here, but they’re also the ones inside Ukraine and willing to grind out this war. I fail to see how Russia will accept any ceasefire and treaty that requires them to surrender the land it holds, not counting Crimea which they’ve held since 2014. The kharkiv oblast isnt a large bargaining chip.

    However any treaty that does give Russia land without some kind of security system is asking for Russia to invade at a later date. How would putin feel if he got the territory but ukraine was free to pursue nato membership? Or if america, France, Germany and the UK were given land for military bases along the border?

  5. Putin sees Russia as being all territories that were part of the USSR in the late 1900s, before it split into 15 republics. Which is roughly the boundaries of the Russian empire in the late 1800s. He has openly said as much. 

    What he hasn’t said as openly is that he also wants control over the former Warsaw pact, which includes Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania and the eastern half of Germany. He also wants Finland, which was a vassal state of the Russian empire for a period in the 1800s.

    Get a reality check. He doesn’t intend to stop with Crimea and Ukraine’s four eastern provinces. 

  6. Трамп уже намекнул, что если Украина не примет предложенный им план, ей придется полагаться на себя и своих европейских союзников.
    Вероятно, он имеет в виду Starlink и Patriot.

  7. Key Point: Putin wants the heavily fortified areas of Ukraine handed to him on a silver platter. So if he would decide to restart hostilities, which ofcourse he would because its been working for him so far, it would be a whole lot easier for him.

  8. I sure hope Europe steps up and backs Ukraine as much as needed should Trump try to pressure Ukraine.


    An emergency meeting of the main European powers–not including Czechoslovakia, although their representatives were present in the town, or the Soviet Union, an ally to France and Czechoslovakia–took place in Munich, on 29–30 September. An agreement was quickly reached on Adolf Hitler’s terms, and signed by the leaders of Germany, France, Britain, and Italy. The Czechoslovak mountainous borderland marked a natural border between the Czech state and the Germanic states since the early Middle Ages; it also presented a major natural obstacle to a possible German attack. Strengthened by border fortifications, the Sudetenland was of absolute strategic importance to Czechoslovakia. On 30 September, Czechoslovakia submitted to the combination of military pressure by Germany, Poland, and Hungary, and diplomatic pressure by Britain and France, and agreed to surrender territory to Germany following the Munich terms.

    The Munich Agreement was soon followed by the First Vienna Award on 2 November 1938, separating largely Hungarian inhabited territories in southern Slovakia and southern Subcarpathian Rus’ from Czechoslovakia. On 30 November, Czechoslovakia ceded to Poland small patches of land in the Spiš and Orava regions.[5]

    In March 1939, the First Slovak Republic, a German puppet state, proclaimed its independence. Shortly afterwards, Hitler reneged on his promise to respect the integrity of Czechoslovakia by occupying the remainder of the country and creating the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia.[6] The conquered nation’s military arsenal played an important role in Germany’s invasions of Poland and France in 1939 and 1940.[7]

  9. It’s a guarantee(!) the terms will favor Russia. Trump is a Russian asset.

  10. And what is Zelensky’s endgame? To defeat Russia militarily? To have NATO boots on the ground? To continue this attrition war that he’s losing?

  11. Don’t negotiate with terrorists and never give an inch to a tyrant. Zelenskyy knows this and so should everyone else by now.

  12. Sadly I have to live with these degenerates. Absolute lowlives of the world. They are all poor because they dont care about learning the local language and therefore contribute nothing to the society. All they know is blasting music from their small JBL speakers that they probably stole from someone and yell indecencies. Group on thieves and bandits,all they can do is wear adidas and try to take from others.

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