Is this allowed?

by alebruno0

35 comments
  1. Why do you think a lot of swiss army knives come with saws?

    It’s for when you see this.

  2. Sadly yes. The staff will intervene only if one is wearing shoes.

  3. its not allowed with shoes, with bare feet its allowed afaik

  4. No shoes, then yes and quite accepted. I regularly travel between Zurich and Lugano, and during summer on the train back to Zurich, you will see many people shoes off and with their feet on the seats after a day of hiking.

  5. Whether it is explicitly banned or not really shouldn’t matter.

    You shouldn’t need an explicit, written rule to know it’s not acceptable to put your gross bare feet up on the seats on public transit 🤮

  6. Even if it is technically allowed, it’s rude. We should stop discussing about what is forbidden and more about what makes you an a-hole. It’s not illegal to burp loudly in company, but it still makes you a pig. It’s not illegal to eat a fish curry on the train, but it’s still very inconsiderate.

  7. Unfortunately yes. If you‘re wearing shoes the staff will tell you off but barefeet is ok. I once saw a girl do her toenails on the train… filing anf all

  8. Train seems 90% empty and to be fair, feet are probably cleaner than the shoes most people put on seats…….

  9. I think it’s not allowed, but if the train is empty enough (i.e. you don’t block the seat for other people and nobody is seating next to your feet) and the person remove their shoes (Or use a journal or other thing between their shoes and the seat), then it’s tolerated… And I suppose it is implied that your feet are clean and don’t smell.

  10. Yes, but you’re still supposed to place your 20min underneath and then leave it for the next person.

  11. I was taught that the train (or tram or bus) is not my personal living room and I shouldn’t put my feet up on anything. This is what I teach my kid.

    I find the idea of people taking off their shoes in a train to be repulsive. Most people’s feet stink. I don’t want to smell that. Keep them in your shoes!

  12. It’s allowed without shoes but it’s really rude and people will judge the fk out of that person in the typical silent Swiss way.

  13. Shoes on: absolutely unacceptable.

    Shoes off, no socks: you see it occasionally, but it does feel pretty rude.

    Shoes off, socks on: acceptable if train is not too full, perhaps late at night, and your socks don’t stink. A newspaper or something similar under the socked feet is a nice additional gesture.

  14. Honestly what wouldn’t be allowed is to dirty the chair, if the person remove her shoes in order to prevent that, for me it’s absolutely acceptable.
    As even if someone will use it after, there would be his/her cloth to prevent direct contact with any bacteria, piece of flesh, sweet left from thoses feet. And the chaire are cleaned every x time.

    So in all rationality nothing to be upset by, and should even recognize that most likely this person is considering the respect for the material and other users.

    Making a drama out of it would be, in my opinion more a stance to be in conflict simply to be in conflict.

    And the Swiss train company, in this regard, seems to think like me, as they will tolerate it.

    In general, let people live, as long as they don’t act in way that has a direct impact on your own freedom. And here, in the situation the impact is so minimal, that even the company consider it as ok.

    You want to counter this argument with the smell, as some do?
    Well 1) it am doubting that there would be such a smell that it would be notice an hour after that person remove her feet. 2) if you go in the direction of the smell, then trains shouldn’t be allowing people coming back from 2 days of trecks in the mountains! They smell SO BAD! I know it, I’m one of those very rude and impolite person who take the train after a long weekend of sport, sweeting, trekking and climbing in the mountains 🤮!

  15. SBB rules say you can’t dirty or damage train property. Shoes on seats can mean a CHF 25 fine. Bare feet aren’t explicitly banned, but staff can ask you to put something under them if it disturbs others.

    Also, you’re entitled to occupy only one seat; bags or feet on the next seat are tolerated only if it’s empty, but you can be asked to move them anytime.

    So if this bothers you, you can either politely ask the person yourself or get a staff member involved.

  16. People with their foot fetish… You’re going to attract all those, that have issue with body parts.

    No, it’s not allowed. If the person would at least use a “newspaper” like 20min or a jacket under their feet, then all would be cool as far as I’m concerned. At least when the S-Bahn is as empty as shown in the photo.

  17. To answer your question: yes this is allowed. Not allowed with shoes

  18. People are really angry about this as I can see but too much people care about what others do I think.

  19. Unfortunately, yes it is.
    Keep your dogs in your shoes until you get home 🤮

  20. To me as long as your respect the train aka the sit, I’m fine with.
    That person is not putting dirty shoes on it, I saw some ppl havign towel or using their coat, bags to put their fit on top of it which is ultimately better I think.

  21. Swiss Etiquette requires a 20Min Newspaper below the feet. Thats why there are Gratiszeitungen in Switzerland!

    Problem:
    End of 2025, there will be no more 20Min on printed paper. Next level /r/buenzli unlocked on this topic!

  22. yes and theres nothing ur bünzli ass can do about it

  23. Even if allowed, it’s selfish, uncivilized and disrespectful!

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