Undercounted and erased: The world has underestimated how many civilians Russia has killed in Ukraine

by chrisdh79

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  1. From the article: Leaving a permanent stain on the reputation of the New York Times, Pulitzer laureate Walter Duranty wrote in 1933: “You can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs.” The Soviet experiment was the omelette. The eggs were millions of Ukrainians deliberately starved by Moscow for wanting freedom. And the bloodthirsty chef was Joseph Stalin — a tyrant whose only rival in genocidal ambition at the time was Adolph Hitler.

    Duranty parroted Kremlin talking points, dismissed eyewitness accounts, and described the Holodomor — Stalin’s deliberate and monstrous campaign to exterminate Ukrainians — as mere “malnutrition.” He publicly denied the deaths but privately admitted that millions had likely already perished.

    The chief correspondent in the USSR for America’s newspaper of record betrayed not just Ukraine, but his readers, the truth, and his noble profession. Nearly a century later, Moscow is once again attempting to erase Ukraine, while politicians and commentators, wittingly or not, cite statistics that diminish the scale of atrocities.

    Before going further, let’s consider a phrase that has become far too comfortable in international reporting: “civilian casualties.” While civilians inevitably suffer in all wars, Russia’s campaign is defined by the intentional targeting and murder of civilians. But there are no “casualties,” only victims of war crimes.

    Despite overwhelming evidence of war crimes that Russian troops have committed in Ukraine since 2022, international media and institutions continue to rely on the UN’s official figure of around 13,000 civilian deaths. This number reflects only what can be double-confirmed, not what can be reasonably known. The OHCHR itself admits the true toll is far higher.

    Its methodology, though careful and well-intentioned, excludes vast swaths of occupied territory, where unimaginable cruelty is buried and access is blocked by its perpetrators. Every death must be corroborated by at least two independent sources, which may be feasible in liberated areas but is impossible under Moscow’s control. Without access, there are no witnesses, no documents, no exhumations — and therefore, no count.

    Take Mariupol as a case in point. Before the war, it was home to nearly 450,000 people. After months of encirclement and bombardment in 2022, city officials estimated that 25,000–75,000 civilians had been killed. Those numbers alone would eclipse the UN’s entire civilian death toll for the war, but they’re not reflected in official statistics. Mariupol is still under occupation. Independent investigators have not been allowed in. What happened there remains largely unrecorded.

    The same is true in every city still under Russian occupation in eastern and southern Ukraine, or towns that have been wiped off the map by the war. These places, where phone lines are cut, media is silenced, and locals are terrified to speak, remain inaccessible to international monitors. But the absence of documentation does not mean the absence of death.

  2. The farking world underestimated RuZZia’s evil.

    and will pay with WW3, mark my word.

    Losing Ukraine today = WW3 tomorrow.

  3. The world doesn’t want to admit ruZZian crimes, or else they would also be forced to confront their own hypocrisy in allowing those crimes to happen.

  4. It’s more that too many Russophilic know-it-alls and contrarian simps for the Russians in the civilized world have enforced a gross double-standard which has routinely downplayed or underestimated the Russians’ depraved colonialism and imperialism by preferring instead to analyze and criticize only the imperialism and colonialism by **non**-Russians. Basically it’s a variation of *The West™ bad, Russia good*. And it’s been the *perfect cover* for the Russians to flex their foundational chauvinism and depravity.

    It was only after the Russians’ escalation of their fuckery in February 2022 [did departments of Russian Studies at universities in the West finally begin to scratch the surface of how much Russian “history” and “culture are really sordid tales of colonialism a.k.a. Russification](https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/1/24/how-western-scholars-overlooked-russian-imperialism). Russian history dating from this Eurasian racket’s foundation in 1547 at Ivan the Terrible’s self-coronation [has been nothing but a wave of unforgivable carnage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification#History) engulfing generations of **non**-Russians who’ve suffered unironic genocide and violent cultural appropriation, over which [the oh-so-victimized Russians have scrupulously eschewed any accountability and self-reflection](https://eurasianet.org/russias-colonial-allergy).

  5. It is very much underestimated. My wife is Ukrainian and was held hostage with her family in their border village when the 2022 invasion took place. Her village alone had about 6k people and it is estimated that there alone there were around 500-1000 that were murdered and buried in mass graves or thrown in the water. My wife has a personal “bodycount” of people she knows of about 32 people. Her Mom counts about 60ish. These aren’t people they randomly heard of or read news about. There are people they had personal relationships with. Neighbors. Family. Workers at the stores they went to. She can name each and every one, along with how she knows them. One of the worst things I have heard is that my wife’s friend has shown us a photo of her highschool graduation, and all but 2 men are dead in the photo.

    There isn’t much else to say other than russia is by far the biggest stain on the world. A true cancer throughout history. Nobody likes cancer, everyone wants to get rid of it. A world without russia would be such a wonderful, prosperous place.

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