Ignoring a paper posting their own article; we know. Sturgeon does not have to accuse Rab Galraith of being a bigot – everyone knows that. And know an awful lot of the country are celebrating being a bigot.
I wouldn’t say it’s an accusation rather than an accurate observation, Rowling doesn’t even pretend she’s not doing it.
I’m sure someone will be along in a moment to criticise me for not reading the article. However I do think newspapers shouldn’t be allowed to post their own stuff directly here.
Not only that but I thought it was a pretty string consensus. Did the mods ever come to a decision on it?
JK is definitely one of the biggest champions of the far white assault on LGBTQ rights, but this is a wider push from the Americans and their billionaire-class fascist right as well.
Shes right. The transphobia that exists in the UK predates JK but she amplified it and gave a voice to the nazis like Posie Parker. She then retweeted and thanked far right US influencers like Matt Walsh., and helped spread the misinformation about Imane Khelif which has lead to rules being put in place by the IOC that have in the past been used to disparage and ban predominately WOC.
Just a reminder to everyone out there: even after the T-shirt incident Sturgeon still took the high ground and invited Rowling to work together on other issues where they should both have common ground as feminists. Rowling of course never responded or even made mention of any those concerns on her own because this has never been about feminism for her, only hating trans people.
Well, she’s not wrong. And JK Rowling brings along a slither of sycophants in her wake.
Imagine having all the money in the world and deciding to spend money and time manufacturing hate. Sad little life JK Rowling must have, happy people don’t do that.
Out of office, Sturgeon can afford to be more forthright on her criticism of the ‘TERF’ movement, and I wish she would be.
They’ve set LGBTQ rights back decades and kids will suffer.
I believe in independence, but not so much in the likes of Cherry, Forbes etc whose views have brought the SNP to a critical point they may not survive – in their current form, at least.
JK honestly used to be one of my biggest heroes. She got through a lot of adversity and difficulty in her early adult life, a lot of false starts and setbacks, and then created something with such wonder and universal appeal that it captivated the world. Such a great story, and something to be so proud of. But instead of riding off into the sunset or quietly doing charity work she has just become Elon Musk mk2.
Once a darling of the internet, and now just an edgelord ragebaiter who is married into the alt right.
I love the original potter books and always will, but talk about a fall from grace.
A champion of women’s rights.
And Nicola is right.
The Times themselves aren’t exactly paragons of equanimity in this matter.
Woman accuses dog of licking own arsehole
Stop using Robert Galbraith’s dead name
i dunno if i’d say she *created* it, just made it so much more toxic
Saying you don’t want men in women’s spaces to protect Women’s rights is not wrong and the majority would agree
Imagine having all of this wealth and fame…and using it to harass and make the lives of children and other vulnerable people worse.
lol.
Go back and re read JK Rowling’s initial step into this debate. It’s a completely milquetoast statement, but the back lash was horrendous, anyone blaming JK Rowling for the toxic nature of this debate and not the people who sent her death and rape threats are basically fantasists who don’t share the same reality as the rest of us.
Joanne. Remember that Joanne purposefully uses a non-binary name to hide her gender.
>But some suggest these concerns are being overplayed. Jenny Willmott, co-founder of Scottish Lesbians, another gender critical group that intervened in support of the For Women Scotland case, says she has been challenged in women’s toilets since she was a teenager.
Jenny Willmott, co-founder of *Please, Leopards, Keep Eating My Face*.
I really wish people would stop calling it the trans ‘debate’ as if it’s some kind of evenly split ideological difference of opinion.
Trans people’s dignity and right to privacy should be respected as it should for everyone! That isn’t something that needs to be debated, it’s just basic human rights. If you personally are uncomfortable around trans people, that’s a you problem, and is easily solved by moving away and focusing on something else.
JKR and her ilk don’t want trans people to exist, whether in public or private, and that is the same kind of thinking that has led society down a dark path of discrimination, violence and oppression with other minority groups.
All this talk of ‘protecting women’ is absurd when statistically trans women are more likely to be the victims of violent crime, far from the dangerous perverts TERFs would have you believe. It’s exactly the same rhetoric that has been used against the gay community, that somehow being queer means you’re deviant and a danger to children, women and society at large. It’s utter nonsense.
She’s not wrong.
The legislation in Scotland didn’t get even close to the recommendations of the Parliamentary Women and Equalities Committee. It was extremely conservative, yet JKR and her fellow ATAs have used it to diminish rights for cis women, as well as LGBTQ people.
True but also fuck you and your rag of a paper
I mean Sturgeon is not wrong.
She’s not wrong. Rowling has descended to being little more than a hateful bigot these days…
Me when i dismayingly / stupidly read yet another ‘hoat tattie’ post on r/Scotland that will never solve the problem and dissolves into a downvote echo chamber that helps no one. **Spoiler alert, both sides think the other is wrong**
Correct, and also fuck your boss, the vampire cunt that he is, u/timesandsundaytimes.
I do enjoy how much she ignores Linehan though, when he tries to get her attention.
Trans isn’t a debate. Trans rights are human rights, end off.
Excellent – when she goes they’ll be two graves to piss on.
Sturgeon put a convicted male rapist in a womens prison. I think that might have been the bit when things went a bit ‘toxic’.
Sturgeon is very good at pointing fingers at the earliest opportunity then sneakily walking them back when it blows up in her face. See Isla Bryson.
Nicola introduced plenty of toxicity to the debate herself.
A lot of people in this thread are frankly deranged. You represent, at most, 10% of the public on this issue.
Rowling’s initial step into this debate was a completely *innocuous* public statement, for which she (and members of her family) received bomb/rape/death threats. It is genuinely embarrassing to read through that statement now, in light of the unhinged MELTDOWN that followed (and continues to this day). She is not the one who escalated this. Own it.
I’d say Sturgeon sending a 6’3 convicted male rapist to a women’s prison created a ‘toxic trans debate’. Compelling the rapists’ victims, while testifying in court, to respect the rapists’ newly found pronouns probably didn’t help either.
Trying to whitewash the trans lobby as a group of darling innocent luvvies just wont cut it. You’re worried about how Rowling will be remembered, without a single thought about how you will be remembered. Check the [shift in public opinion](https://www.reddit.com/r/charts/comments/1mhreru/shift_in_british_attitude_towards_transgender/). This is not a result of people listening to Rowling, it’s a result of listening to her opponents.
“Woman states the obvious”
The sheer balls of Sturgeon
Why does anybody need to accuse her of anything? This is her directly stated objective.
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Ignoring a paper posting their own article; we know. Sturgeon does not have to accuse Rab Galraith of being a bigot – everyone knows that. And know an awful lot of the country are celebrating being a bigot.
I wouldn’t say it’s an accusation rather than an accurate observation, Rowling doesn’t even pretend she’s not doing it.
I’m sure someone will be along in a moment to criticise me for not reading the article. However I do think newspapers shouldn’t be allowed to post their own stuff directly here.
Not only that but I thought it was a pretty string consensus. Did the mods ever come to a decision on it?
JK is definitely one of the biggest champions of the far white assault on LGBTQ rights, but this is a wider push from the Americans and their billionaire-class fascist right as well.
[Alternative link to paywalled article](https://archive.is/20250812085312/https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/jk-rowling-trans-debate-nicola-sturgeon-wdh60k8lf#Echobox=1754997659).
In other news, water is wet and sky is blue.
Nailing Jk for stating the truth.
Shes right. The transphobia that exists in the UK predates JK but she amplified it and gave a voice to the nazis like Posie Parker. She then retweeted and thanked far right US influencers like Matt Walsh., and helped spread the misinformation about Imane Khelif which has lead to rules being put in place by the IOC that have in the past been used to disparage and ban predominately WOC.
Just a reminder to everyone out there: even after the T-shirt incident Sturgeon still took the high ground and invited Rowling to work together on other issues where they should both have common ground as feminists. Rowling of course never responded or even made mention of any those concerns on her own because this has never been about feminism for her, only hating trans people.
Well, she’s not wrong. And JK Rowling brings along a slither of sycophants in her wake.
Imagine having all the money in the world and deciding to spend money and time manufacturing hate. Sad little life JK Rowling must have, happy people don’t do that.
Out of office, Sturgeon can afford to be more forthright on her criticism of the ‘TERF’ movement, and I wish she would be.
They’ve set LGBTQ rights back decades and kids will suffer.
I believe in independence, but not so much in the likes of Cherry, Forbes etc whose views have brought the SNP to a critical point they may not survive – in their current form, at least.
JK honestly used to be one of my biggest heroes. She got through a lot of adversity and difficulty in her early adult life, a lot of false starts and setbacks, and then created something with such wonder and universal appeal that it captivated the world. Such a great story, and something to be so proud of. But instead of riding off into the sunset or quietly doing charity work she has just become Elon Musk mk2.
Once a darling of the internet, and now just an edgelord ragebaiter who is married into the alt right.
I love the original potter books and always will, but talk about a fall from grace.
A champion of women’s rights.
And Nicola is right.
The Times themselves aren’t exactly paragons of equanimity in this matter.
Woman accuses dog of licking own arsehole
Stop using Robert Galbraith’s dead name
i dunno if i’d say she *created* it, just made it so much more toxic
Saying you don’t want men in women’s spaces to protect Women’s rights is not wrong and the majority would agree
Imagine having all of this wealth and fame…and using it to harass and make the lives of children and other vulnerable people worse.
lol.
Go back and re read JK Rowling’s initial step into this debate. It’s a completely milquetoast statement, but the back lash was horrendous, anyone blaming JK Rowling for the toxic nature of this debate and not the people who sent her death and rape threats are basically fantasists who don’t share the same reality as the rest of us.
Joanne. Remember that Joanne purposefully uses a non-binary name to hide her gender.
[An incomplete list of actions of Joanne Rowling that I believe deserve criticism](https://www.reddit.com/user/KillerArse/comments/1jwlanp/an_incomplete_list_of_actions_of_joanne_rowling/)
>But some suggest these concerns are being overplayed. Jenny Willmott, co-founder of Scottish Lesbians, another gender critical group that intervened in support of the For Women Scotland case, says she has been challenged in women’s toilets since she was a teenager.
Jenny Willmott, co-founder of *Please, Leopards, Keep Eating My Face*.
I really wish people would stop calling it the trans ‘debate’ as if it’s some kind of evenly split ideological difference of opinion.
Trans people’s dignity and right to privacy should be respected as it should for everyone! That isn’t something that needs to be debated, it’s just basic human rights. If you personally are uncomfortable around trans people, that’s a you problem, and is easily solved by moving away and focusing on something else.
JKR and her ilk don’t want trans people to exist, whether in public or private, and that is the same kind of thinking that has led society down a dark path of discrimination, violence and oppression with other minority groups.
All this talk of ‘protecting women’ is absurd when statistically trans women are more likely to be the victims of violent crime, far from the dangerous perverts TERFs would have you believe. It’s exactly the same rhetoric that has been used against the gay community, that somehow being queer means you’re deviant and a danger to children, women and society at large. It’s utter nonsense.
She’s not wrong.
The legislation in Scotland didn’t get even close to the recommendations of the Parliamentary Women and Equalities Committee. It was extremely conservative, yet JKR and her fellow ATAs have used it to diminish rights for cis women, as well as LGBTQ people.
True but also fuck you and your rag of a paper
I mean Sturgeon is not wrong.
She’s not wrong. Rowling has descended to being little more than a hateful bigot these days…
In other news, Earth still orbits the Sun.
https://preview.redd.it/d1acs6dx2lif1.jpeg?width=2244&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84279a3a42c38a651842ff77410aea129d010119
Me when i dismayingly / stupidly read yet another ‘hoat tattie’ post on r/Scotland that will never solve the problem and dissolves into a downvote echo chamber that helps no one. **Spoiler alert, both sides think the other is wrong**
Correct, and also fuck your boss, the vampire cunt that he is, u/timesandsundaytimes.
I do enjoy how much she ignores Linehan though, when he tries to get her attention.
Trans isn’t a debate. Trans rights are human rights, end off.
Excellent – when she goes they’ll be two graves to piss on.
Sturgeon put a convicted male rapist in a womens prison. I think that might have been the bit when things went a bit ‘toxic’.
Sturgeon is very good at pointing fingers at the earliest opportunity then sneakily walking them back when it blows up in her face. See Isla Bryson.
Nicola introduced plenty of toxicity to the debate herself.
A lot of people in this thread are frankly deranged. You represent, at most, 10% of the public on this issue.
Rowling’s initial step into this debate was a completely *innocuous* public statement, for which she (and members of her family) received bomb/rape/death threats. It is genuinely embarrassing to read through that statement now, in light of the unhinged MELTDOWN that followed (and continues to this day). She is not the one who escalated this. Own it.
I’d say Sturgeon sending a 6’3 convicted male rapist to a women’s prison created a ‘toxic trans debate’. Compelling the rapists’ victims, while testifying in court, to respect the rapists’ newly found pronouns probably didn’t help either.
Trying to whitewash the trans lobby as a group of darling innocent luvvies just wont cut it. You’re worried about how Rowling will be remembered, without a single thought about how you will be remembered. Check the [shift in public opinion](https://www.reddit.com/r/charts/comments/1mhreru/shift_in_british_attitude_towards_transgender/). This is not a result of people listening to Rowling, it’s a result of listening to her opponents.
“Woman states the obvious”
The sheer balls of Sturgeon
Why does anybody need to accuse her of anything? This is her directly stated objective.
“I accuse birds of flying!”
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