Find out how spineless my MP is shall be interesting. Not once has she spoken out against Boris.
Clearly the whips have been around and he’s confident he’s going to get away with the vote then.
Given any such vote will just provide more and more ammunition for Labour in the upcoming may elections I’m not surprised.
I wonder if the loss of seats may be the cold water/survival instinct kick that Conservatives MPs need to push back on the PM
I expect half of the problem with getting people to run against him is that they’ve basically lost the next election already, they’ll be in it for two years then back to wherever. The job isn’t really next PM so much as next Gordon Brown.
Damn, I came to see if our neighbours had an opinion on our lame (French) presidential debate (Nothing to see, really, just Macron will be the president 100%), but seeing your frontpage, it seems like you’re having your own fun with your politicians.
Well, take care !
Although it’s worth noting that they want to delay it until after the Sue Gray report (whenever that’s going to be…) and they have also managed to get the Chair of the privileges committee to recuse himself from it, so the investigation will be chaired by a Tory.
Whitewash.
Why are they even wasting time voting on this? Just fucking do it, as part of the original enquiry, investigation or whatever you call it.
Votes like this are us paying them for time spent doing nothing. Get some real fucking work done you absolute scumbags.
> Government whips scrambled on Wednesday night to derail a Labour motion designed to trigger a Commons inquiry into whether Johnson lied about rule-breaking in Downing Street – including the potential release of hundreds of damaging messages and photographs.
> Amid a growing backlash from Tory MPs, the government privately conceded it could not whip them to block an inquiry by the Commons privileges committee.
Not sure if I buy this “privately conceded” (i.e. anonymous Tory source) information quite as readily as the Guardian does.
> Government whips hope to amend Labour’s motion so that MPs would be asked to vote only on a “neutral” statement saying that an investigation by the privileges committee would be inappropriate while Scotland Yard was still examining lockdown events. If the move does not succeed, Conservatives will be on a three-line whip to vote down the investigation.
“A neutral motion designed to kick the can down the road probably suits most Conservative MPs at this point,” one government source said.
So the block-by-delaying tactic was already in place way before the alleged “scrambling” on Wednesday night.
I think the Tory plan here is: when the opposition (rightly) accuse them of blocking the inquiry they can argue they merely waited for the “proper time”. This gives them a rhetorical hook to hang their coverup denials on, unlike a simple vote against the motion.
It should be noted that any faith in the sincerity of Johnson’s government on promises of free votes, proper timing, and not kicking the can further and further down the road in general, is just that: faith in the sincerity of Johnson’s government. Journalists and the voting public should know what that’s worth by now.
Don’t worry, it will find the whole thing was the fault of the BBC, the Met, young people and the NHS.
Chair of 1922 committee – “I’ll probably abstain from the vote as I can’t support a Labour motion”- surely some things should surpass Party Politics? This is about ministerial code adherence, not whether you can bring yourself to support anything said by a “commoner”. Is there something I don’t understand here, if a Tory supports a Labour motion will they immediately dissolve into a puddle of Saville Row attire, like the Witch in the Wizard of Oz??
I’m beginning to think the Eaton needs to add a term on Ethics & Honour, & the school nurse perhaps needs to start performing spinal checks, literal checking for the absence of.
Just a thought, should those potentially impacted by the release of the photographs & evidence be allowed to vote on whether to investigate it?
Sure the investigation is into whether BJ porkied too hard, but others were there & may be impacted by the investigation.
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Hard to keep up a only posted this [Update](https://old.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/u8384w/boris_johnson_to_order_tory_mps_to_block_probe/i5itwfi/?context=3) saying “[Tories confirm they’ll block probe into Boris Johnson Partygate ‘lies](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-tories-confirm-theyll-block-26758840)'” not fifty minute ago.
I’m just glad that a committee of mainly tory MPs will finally be able to give us the justice we deserve!
Would seem appropriate to drop this in here
>Times: [Public think Boris Johnson failing on almost every major issue, poll finds](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/public-think-boris-johnson-failing-on-almost-every-major-issue-poll-finds-8ndf7z65z)
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>Britons believe the government is handling almost every major issue badly, according to a poll.
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>([*mirror*](https://archive.ph/FPyvF))
Find out how spineless my MP is shall be interesting. Not once has she spoken out against Boris.
Clearly the whips have been around and he’s confident he’s going to get away with the vote then.
Given any such vote will just provide more and more ammunition for Labour in the upcoming may elections I’m not surprised.
I wonder if the loss of seats may be the cold water/survival instinct kick that Conservatives MPs need to push back on the PM
I expect half of the problem with getting people to run against him is that they’ve basically lost the next election already, they’ll be in it for two years then back to wherever. The job isn’t really next PM so much as next Gordon Brown.
Damn, I came to see if our neighbours had an opinion on our lame (French) presidential debate (Nothing to see, really, just Macron will be the president 100%), but seeing your frontpage, it seems like you’re having your own fun with your politicians.
Well, take care !
Although it’s worth noting that they want to delay it until after the Sue Gray report (whenever that’s going to be…) and they have also managed to get the Chair of the privileges committee to recuse himself from it, so the investigation will be chaired by a Tory.
Whitewash.
Why are they even wasting time voting on this? Just fucking do it, as part of the original enquiry, investigation or whatever you call it.
Votes like this are us paying them for time spent doing nothing. Get some real fucking work done you absolute scumbags.
> Government whips scrambled on Wednesday night to derail a Labour motion designed to trigger a Commons inquiry into whether Johnson lied about rule-breaking in Downing Street – including the potential release of hundreds of damaging messages and photographs.
> Amid a growing backlash from Tory MPs, the government privately conceded it could not whip them to block an inquiry by the Commons privileges committee.
Not sure if I buy this “privately conceded” (i.e. anonymous Tory source) information quite as readily as the Guardian does.
The Times, who have their own anonymous Tory sources, [reported](https://archive.ph/mcZ2j#selection-1613.0-1617.137) Wednesday morning:
> Government whips hope to amend Labour’s motion so that MPs would be asked to vote only on a “neutral” statement saying that an investigation by the privileges committee would be inappropriate while Scotland Yard was still examining lockdown events. If the move does not succeed, Conservatives will be on a three-line whip to vote down the investigation.
“A neutral motion designed to kick the can down the road probably suits most Conservative MPs at this point,” one government source said.
So the block-by-delaying tactic was already in place way before the alleged “scrambling” on Wednesday night.
I think the Tory plan here is: when the opposition (rightly) accuse them of blocking the inquiry they can argue they merely waited for the “proper time”. This gives them a rhetorical hook to hang their coverup denials on, unlike a simple vote against the motion.
Paul Waugh last night even [suggested](https://nitter.net/SamCoatesSky/status/1516871176957665281) MPs were bargained into supporting a delaying tactic with promises of a free vote when the vote into the inquiry came around.
It should be noted that any faith in the sincerity of Johnson’s government on promises of free votes, proper timing, and not kicking the can further and further down the road in general, is just that: faith in the sincerity of Johnson’s government. Journalists and the voting public should know what that’s worth by now.
Don’t worry, it will find the whole thing was the fault of the BBC, the Met, young people and the NHS.
Chair of 1922 committee – “I’ll probably abstain from the vote as I can’t support a Labour motion”- surely some things should surpass Party Politics? This is about ministerial code adherence, not whether you can bring yourself to support anything said by a “commoner”. Is there something I don’t understand here, if a Tory supports a Labour motion will they immediately dissolve into a puddle of Saville Row attire, like the Witch in the Wizard of Oz??
I’m beginning to think the Eaton needs to add a term on Ethics & Honour, & the school nurse perhaps needs to start performing spinal checks, literal checking for the absence of.
Just a thought, should those potentially impacted by the release of the photographs & evidence be allowed to vote on whether to investigate it?
Sure the investigation is into whether BJ porkied too hard, but others were there & may be impacted by the investigation.