Left out of Alaska talks, exhausted Ukrainians fear an unjust peace

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1. We fight for the country’s freedom, and then others decide our fate. Ukraine risks being carved up. It’s unfair, but it’s world history.

2. Don’t sweat it, my dudes.

   No-one is taking Trump or Putin seriously, and no-one will enforce or expect anyone to abide by anything those two criminal psychopath clowns agree to.

3. Zelensky wanted a return to the 1991 borders (and Russian occupation of Ukrainain land would be regarded as temporary), the right to join NATO and reparations from Russia, none of which Russia is going to agree to. So what is a realistic solution ? Is Ukraine going to fight on, till Russia is defeated ?

   There is a difference between what Ukraine would ideally like and what they might realistically expect.

4. I hope Ukraine will get its 1991 January 1st border.

5. Imagine spending your career working for the State Dept. to contain Russian influence and then have to be part of this.

6. Russia’s position has long been that, basically, the great powers will make the choices and the lesser powers will put up with what the great powers decide because they must.

   And really even this framing elevates Russia beyond its reasonable standing.

7. The Biden administration has given Ukrainians the illusion that they have a seat at the poker table. And they are actually in the game, but not AT the table, they are ON the table.

8. Surprise.

9. People needs to wake up and face the reality

   Look up the most recent front-line updates and Russian breakthroughs. The Ukrainian is about to lose the final defense line. Russia is winning on the battlefield, and they are going to decide how this war is going to end.

   At the Bucharest summit in April 2008, NATO declared that both Ukraine and Georgia would join in the near future. That directly led to the Russo-Georgian war only 4 months later. In Feb 2014, Revolution of Dignity happened, some speculated it was a coup by the U.S, which led to the removal of the pro-Russian Ukraine president Viktor Yanukovych, immediately after that, Russia annexed Crimea. The Russo-Ukrainian War officially start.

   What I am trying to say is that we no longer live in an unipolar world (1990-2000) where the U.S. can do whatever the hell it wants. In a multipolar world, there are consequences when you tried to put military alliance right at other great power neighboring countries. The Cuba missile crisis wasn’t that long ago and U.S/NATO learned nothing from it. You people really want nuclear war that bad?

   Guess who paid the ultimate price this time? Ukraine.

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