BBC News – Councillor cleared of encouraging violent behaviour
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjeykklwn7vo
by Jackisback123
BBC News – Councillor cleared of encouraging violent behaviour
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjeykklwn7vo
by Jackisback123
32 comments
This is a bad result for everyone. No matter where you sit on the political spectrum.
Absolutely no evidence of a two tier justice whatsoever
“The party investigated itself and found no evidence of wrongdoing”. Party members are obviously Tier 1, how didn’t we realise this?
Just be careful if you are in Tier 2 not to post what this guy said on social media, otherwise you *will* go to prison.
Not doing a good job of debunking far-right conspiracy theories. Now for the usual suspects to say the usual: “okay you were right, it is happening, but here’s why it’s a good thing.”
How? Seriously he is on video calling for people’s throats to be slit. This is going to poke the bear.
So was Lucy Connolly just stupid to plead guilty?
As I struggle to really discern the difference, if one incited violence surely the other did too?
This is absolutely appalling! The man quite literally said that a certain demographic should have their throats cut!!!
If Lucy Conolly is in jail for what she posted online, then this guy should have to suffer the same consequences for his action!
Something very, very wrong is taking place in this country right now and it needs to stop.
Get Labour out and have an immediate overhaul of our judicial system. There has to be some form of independent investigation because some of the sentencing since Labour have come into power has been questionable at best.
– Mike Amesbury – assaults someone six times whilst they lay on the floor unconscious as a result of his original assault. Serves no time in prison
– Ricky Jones – calls for certain people to have their throats cut during a public demonstration – Serves no time in prison.
Both are/were Labour MP’s!…… So much for cleaning up politics.
There has never been a more obvious show of two tier justice than this, and Lucy Connolly’s case.
Hard to know why this judgement was made (it as a jury trial I believe, so not sure we will actually get an explanation).
But I can’t really see how you can say in public that we should cut the throats of a group of people, and not be guilty.
However, whilst this won’t help and I think it is the wrong verdict, there are a few things to bear in mind before complaining about “two tier justice”.
– A jury made the decision, not a judge or state official
– We don’t know who they were or why they made that decision
– We don’t know what sentence he would have got if he was found guilty
– We don’t know if a lot of the right wingers who pleaded guilty to similar offences would have been acquitted if they took it to trial.
Downvote away if you must, but those are the facts.
“Your honour, I’m mentally ill, have experienced racism, spoke in the heat of the moment, and am usually a good boy 😘”.
We’ll remember this, you fat pig
So to be clear we’ve established a legal precedent that ‘we need to get rid of them all’ with a throat slit gesture is now explicitly not a call to violence?
Can’t see any unsavoury groups taking advantage of that.
I give it about 2 weeks before some Tommy Robinson knockoff gives a speech saying that we need to get rid of all muslims just so he can point out the hypocrisy when he’s prosecuted.
A really dark day for the British ‘justice’ system.
Trust in it is already at its lowest-ever levels, and now they’re just entrenching that with another clear example of two-tier justice.
>A suspended Labour councillor who said far-right protesters should have their throats slit has been found not guilty of encouraging violent disorder.
>[https://news.sky.com/story/ricky-jones-suspended-labour-councillor-who-called-for-protesters-throats-to-be-cut-at-rally-not-guilty-of-encouraging-violent-disorder-13412060?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter](https://news.sky.com/story/ricky-jones-suspended-labour-councillor-who-called-for-protesters-throats-to-be-cut-at-rally-not-guilty-of-encouraging-violent-disorder-13412060?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter)
Nobody contests that he did in fact publicly address a crowd calling for another group’s throats to be slit. There’s no debate over that, the whole thing is on video.
So the question, really, was ‘Does publicly addressing a crowd, calling for another group’s throats to be slit, count as encouraging violent disorder?’
From the BBC article:
>He also drew his finger across his throat as he spoke to the crowd.
And somehow the judiciary arrived at the answer… “No. Calling for their throats to be slit is not in fact encouraging violent disorder.”
I despair. This country is broken
So from now on calls for violence and death threats aren’t an imprisonable offence so long as you ignore your duty solicitor’s counsel and plead not guilty in court?
Oh look, the thing that isn’t happening happened again.
Who’s willing to go to a protest and say exactly what he said on camera to a crowd using a megaphone? Wonder what the outcome would be then…
It was a jury decision. You could get rid of juries but, amusingly, the opinion here seems to be overwhelmingly against that whenever it gets brought up.
and if this was the other way round with a far right protestor calling for minorities to be harmed, would this have gone the same way?
I thought this was an open and shut case? He is on video which has been viewed millions of times? So the jury agree it’s fine to threaten to slit people’s throats while speaking to hundreds of people?
When politicians can openly call for violence and face no consequences, while ordinary people would be prosecuted for saying the same thing, it’s a dangerous sign. In Iran in 1979, the revolutionary leadership allowed violent rhetoric against ‘enemies’ because it served their political goals… and it eroded the rule of law almost overnight. Selective justice is how you slide from democracy into something much darker.
Keir and Labour are as good as cremated at the next election, I think we will see a wipeout on a bigger scale than the most recent conservative one.
This country is at a boiling point.
“We need to cut all their throats and get rid of them all”
Actual quote. How is that not encouraging violent disorder?
Whatever your views are on Reform, could you imagine if one of their Councillors called for far left protester’s throats to be cut and to get rid of them all.
They absolutely would be found guilty of encouraging violent behaviour.
Of course Starmer won’t get the blame here (rightly so), yet if it was Reform, Farage would be absolutely vilified for years if one of his Councillor’s said this.
We have politicians like Jess Philips constantly going on about how politicians need to moderate their language so as to promote more civil and political discourse because we end up with cases like Jo Cox otherwise.
This is an absolutely ridiculous verdict.
I’m actually shocked he was found not guilty considering they’ve got him on video doing it…..
Worried about the fallout from this as it’s clearly going to fan the flames when the country is already a tinder box.
Jury decision.
State prosecuted him – public acquitted him.
Him being found not guilty is not two tier justice people..
It was a jury trial
It is a surprise I will admit that he wasn’t found guilty but that’s just jury trials. Sometimes odd things can and do happen, but they are still important because it allows you to be judge by your fellow man. And on this occasion they believed him.
Another justification for getting rid of juries.
https://www.postcolonialweb.org/Singapore/government/leekuanyew/lky2.html
And that’s it. All the evidence anyone ever needs to see how irredeemably fucked this country is.
Lots of comments in here talking complete nonsense. Any comment that doesn’t acknowledge that this was a jury decision is being completely disingenuous
Regardless of how you see this, it’s a massive win for Reform. For Fucks sake.
I’m stunned but I suppose I shouldn’t be any more. What do we think would happen if someone said the throats of immigrants and politicians who let them all in, should be slit? Either online or in the street? No jury would acquit, and rightly so. But juries for whatever reason seem to regularly side with far-left extremists like this councillor. He called for murder and he just got away with it.
I think quite a few people who were jailed last year *really* should have pleaded not guilty. Whether the legal advice they received in those cases was so bad as to make the convictions unsafe is a case by case matter for the courts.
And people are wondering why those Reform-turds are gaining traction…
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