Good, as a car driver I think its great. Less noise, less morons. A win win situation.
Fun how the parties defending federalism as a principle have no problem imposing federal rules to the lower levels when local decisions are not to the liking of the federal authorities.
Translation:
>__Over 22,000 signatures in favour of maintaining the 30 km/h speed limit in urban areas.__
>__Under pressure from the TCS and the conservative parties, Federal Councillor Albert Rösti wants to make the introduction of the 30 km/h speed limit on main roads in urban areas much more difficult. The VCS Swiss Transport Club is opposing this attack on road safety and quality of life and today submitted a petition with over 22,000 signatures to the parliamentary services.__
>Last year, the Swiss parliament voted in favour of a motion to make it virtually impossible to introduce a 30 km/h speed limit on main roads. Federal Councillor Albert Rösti now wants to implement this by means of an ordinance. This is a serious threat to democratic rights – but also an untenable frontal attack on road safety and noise protection,” says Jelena Filipovic, Co-President of the VCS.
>The VCS has therefore launched its petition “NO to the 30 km/h ban in urban areas”. It calls on the Federal Council to recognise the importance of 30 km/h and the autonomy of the municipalities and cantons in this area. The petition with over 22,000 signatures was submitted to the parliamentary services today.
>__Effective measure, tried and tested procedure__
>Wherever speed limits have been reduced – in Switzerland and abroad – the conclusion is clear: 30 km/h increases safety, reduces road noise and improves coexistence between the various road users. Children, senior citizens, cyclists and motorists all benefit from a 30 km/h speed limit – as the large delegation at the petition handover also pointed out.
>The introduction of a 30 km/h speed limit on main roads is currently carried out according to a proven and controlled procedure: Before implementation, an expert opinion must confirm that a 30 km/h speed limit is necessary, appropriate and proportionate. Final approval is the responsibility of the cantons.
>So far, such decisions have always been made in a responsible and balanced manner – this has also been confirmed several times by the Federal Supreme Court. A federal dictate is neither necessary nor sensible, emphasises Michael Töngi, member of the VCS Central Committee and National Councillor for the Greens/LU: “It has been proven that a 30 km/h speed limit protects lives. The fact that the Federal Council wants to deliberately weaken this achievement is not only irresponsible – it is also an attack on the sovereignty of cities and municipalities.”
>Albert Rösti is expected to present his proposal for a 30 km/h ban in the next few days. The VCS will fight back and continue to do everything in its power to improve road safety and quality of life.
Eww who voted FOR this?? Urgh…
Honestly we should do the opposite than today’s system. The standard speed in localities should be 30 and a Gemeinde should have to argue and demonstrate why a particular street needs to be 50 and how it can be that way safely.
I’m not saying there should be none, there are arterial roads where it make sense for them to be entirely car centric and as such allow 50, but in most urban settings 30 is the right speed for everyone involved, even cars.
The issue here is that the bourgeois majority in the canton wants to prohibit cities from implementing 30 km/h on main roads because these parties want to protect the interests of motorists from the wealthier surrounding municipalities around the cities. It has long been proven internationally that 30 km/h generally reduces the fatality rate in road traffic and the number of injuries to pedestrians and road users in larger conurbations or cities.
As a driver, I have little objection to a 30 km/h speed limit in principle, but it must be reasonable.
In my opinion, it is not justified or reasonable everywhere on a main traffic artery, but there are certainly some places where it would be appropriate. On the other hand, it is certainly a good idea around schools, retirement homes, etc.
I just think it’s a shame when, as in our village, a study shows that 85% of road users drive less than 30 km/h, and of the remaining 15%, it is mostly motorcycles and bicycles that do not comply. Conclusion: we are spending 150k in a financially struggling community so that we can implement a 30 km/h speed limit. Incidentally, in neighborhoods where only residents drive through (dead ends), they were the ones who complained the loudest.
Without enforcement, 30 km/h doesn’t do anything anyway. Or do you still believe in common sense these days?
If you want to drive slow, go out in the country side! On the main road inside a city, there is no point to slowing down the traffic flow. The actual cars are not meant to move at so slow speed. In fact, most of the time it is just impossible to drive faster than 30 km/h are there is bikes, scooters, electric bikes on the road. So it is, on my point of view, the responsibility of the driver to adapt the speed. Do you really think we need more « control » on drivers instead of educate them? 30 km/h will not stop stupid drivers.
No issue at all with this as an avid car driver. In fact I don’t even mind 20 kph zones where pedestrians have complete right of way whenever they want to cross the street.
Pedestrian focused cities are the best.
Even as a often SVP voter, I am in favor of the 30km/h limit.
wont someone think of the blitzer? think of all that delicious lost revenue harvested from the travelling public if people can go faster than bicycle in their cars without a fine! /s
How about 40 km speed limit in some places…our town has some roads that definitely shouldn’t be 50, but feel very slow at 30–I’m very speed limit conscious, and overall, an error on the side of slow driver, so this is not coming from a speed demon
I second that for cars, but not for bikes. It’s ridiculous that a 15/20 kg bike or e-bike needs to follow the same speed limits of 2 tons SUVs or full blown trucks.
Honestly, every stretch of road should be analysed individually and then as a whole. Reducing the speed everywhere to 30 is about as dumb and lazy as pushing it to be 50 everywhere.
Love me some revenue deficit – They’ll start fining cyclists – ohh how good that will be. I’m looking forward to it ❤️💁🏻♀️
And again Switzerland is revolting on useless shit as always – when the world is going down – lucky they gave them the illusion of the control.
Just a petition, so the politicians won‘t care and can easily ignore it. Luckily.
totally agree with you
At 30km/h pop and bang is still a thing.
Yet another law by the cartel of traffic sign
Can a referendum be started?
What happened to federalism and “Les cantons sont souverains en tant que leur souveraineté n’est pas limitée par la Constitution fédérale et exercent tous les droits qui ne sont pas délégués à la Confédération.”?
I still don’t understand people opposing that…
The only cars I see trying to go to 50km/h in the city are aggressively accelerating after each stop, and piling on the breaks repeatedly.
20-30kmh is way more adapted to urban areas, and hopefully it will extend to all roads/streets (such as Hohlstrasse in Zurich, winch is sadly not part of the safety plan)
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Good, as a car driver I think its great. Less noise, less morons. A win win situation.
Fun how the parties defending federalism as a principle have no problem imposing federal rules to the lower levels when local decisions are not to the liking of the federal authorities.
Translation:
>__Over 22,000 signatures in favour of maintaining the 30 km/h speed limit in urban areas.__
>__Under pressure from the TCS and the conservative parties, Federal Councillor Albert Rösti wants to make the introduction of the 30 km/h speed limit on main roads in urban areas much more difficult. The VCS Swiss Transport Club is opposing this attack on road safety and quality of life and today submitted a petition with over 22,000 signatures to the parliamentary services.__
>Last year, the Swiss parliament voted in favour of a motion to make it virtually impossible to introduce a 30 km/h speed limit on main roads. Federal Councillor Albert Rösti now wants to implement this by means of an ordinance. This is a serious threat to democratic rights – but also an untenable frontal attack on road safety and noise protection,” says Jelena Filipovic, Co-President of the VCS.
>The VCS has therefore launched its petition “NO to the 30 km/h ban in urban areas”. It calls on the Federal Council to recognise the importance of 30 km/h and the autonomy of the municipalities and cantons in this area. The petition with over 22,000 signatures was submitted to the parliamentary services today.
>__Effective measure, tried and tested procedure__
>Wherever speed limits have been reduced – in Switzerland and abroad – the conclusion is clear: 30 km/h increases safety, reduces road noise and improves coexistence between the various road users. Children, senior citizens, cyclists and motorists all benefit from a 30 km/h speed limit – as the large delegation at the petition handover also pointed out.
>The introduction of a 30 km/h speed limit on main roads is currently carried out according to a proven and controlled procedure: Before implementation, an expert opinion must confirm that a 30 km/h speed limit is necessary, appropriate and proportionate. Final approval is the responsibility of the cantons.
>So far, such decisions have always been made in a responsible and balanced manner – this has also been confirmed several times by the Federal Supreme Court. A federal dictate is neither necessary nor sensible, emphasises Michael Töngi, member of the VCS Central Committee and National Councillor for the Greens/LU: “It has been proven that a 30 km/h speed limit protects lives. The fact that the Federal Council wants to deliberately weaken this achievement is not only irresponsible – it is also an attack on the sovereignty of cities and municipalities.”
>Albert Rösti is expected to present his proposal for a 30 km/h ban in the next few days. The VCS will fight back and continue to do everything in its power to improve road safety and quality of life.
Eww who voted FOR this?? Urgh…
Honestly we should do the opposite than today’s system. The standard speed in localities should be 30 and a Gemeinde should have to argue and demonstrate why a particular street needs to be 50 and how it can be that way safely.
I’m not saying there should be none, there are arterial roads where it make sense for them to be entirely car centric and as such allow 50, but in most urban settings 30 is the right speed for everyone involved, even cars.
The issue here is that the bourgeois majority in the canton wants to prohibit cities from implementing 30 km/h on main roads because these parties want to protect the interests of motorists from the wealthier surrounding municipalities around the cities. It has long been proven internationally that 30 km/h generally reduces the fatality rate in road traffic and the number of injuries to pedestrians and road users in larger conurbations or cities.
As a driver, I have little objection to a 30 km/h speed limit in principle, but it must be reasonable.
In my opinion, it is not justified or reasonable everywhere on a main traffic artery, but there are certainly some places where it would be appropriate. On the other hand, it is certainly a good idea around schools, retirement homes, etc.
I just think it’s a shame when, as in our village, a study shows that 85% of road users drive less than 30 km/h, and of the remaining 15%, it is mostly motorcycles and bicycles that do not comply. Conclusion: we are spending 150k in a financially struggling community so that we can implement a 30 km/h speed limit. Incidentally, in neighborhoods where only residents drive through (dead ends), they were the ones who complained the loudest.
Without enforcement, 30 km/h doesn’t do anything anyway. Or do you still believe in common sense these days?
If you want to drive slow, go out in the country side! On the main road inside a city, there is no point to slowing down the traffic flow. The actual cars are not meant to move at so slow speed. In fact, most of the time it is just impossible to drive faster than 30 km/h are there is bikes, scooters, electric bikes on the road. So it is, on my point of view, the responsibility of the driver to adapt the speed. Do you really think we need more « control » on drivers instead of educate them? 30 km/h will not stop stupid drivers.
Do I understand correctly that it goes only about main roads, thus solely about the roads from this list: https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Hauptstrassen_der_Schweiz ?
No issue at all with this as an avid car driver. In fact I don’t even mind 20 kph zones where pedestrians have complete right of way whenever they want to cross the street.
Pedestrian focused cities are the best.
Even as a often SVP voter, I am in favor of the 30km/h limit.
wont someone think of the blitzer? think of all that delicious lost revenue harvested from the travelling public if people can go faster than bicycle in their cars without a fine! /s
How about 40 km speed limit in some places…our town has some roads that definitely shouldn’t be 50, but feel very slow at 30–I’m very speed limit conscious, and overall, an error on the side of slow driver, so this is not coming from a speed demon
I second that for cars, but not for bikes. It’s ridiculous that a 15/20 kg bike or e-bike needs to follow the same speed limits of 2 tons SUVs or full blown trucks.
Honestly, every stretch of road should be analysed individually and then as a whole. Reducing the speed everywhere to 30 is about as dumb and lazy as pushing it to be 50 everywhere.
Love me some revenue deficit – They’ll start fining cyclists – ohh how good that will be. I’m looking forward to it ❤️💁🏻♀️
And again Switzerland is revolting on useless shit as always – when the world is going down – lucky they gave them the illusion of the control.
Just a petition, so the politicians won‘t care and can easily ignore it. Luckily.
totally agree with you
At 30km/h pop and bang is still a thing.
Yet another law by the cartel of traffic sign
Can a referendum be started?
What happened to federalism and “Les cantons sont souverains en tant que leur souveraineté n’est pas limitée par la Constitution fédérale et exercent tous les droits qui ne sont pas délégués à la Confédération.”?
I still don’t understand people opposing that…
The only cars I see trying to go to 50km/h in the city are aggressively accelerating after each stop, and piling on the breaks repeatedly.
20-30kmh is way more adapted to urban areas, and hopefully it will extend to all roads/streets (such as Hohlstrasse in Zurich, winch is sadly not part of the safety plan)
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