Said ‘cut their throats’ and find not guilty? Unbelievable, can the people in UK wake up?

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1. MAGA Americans – “free speech for all”

   Also MAGA Americans – “not THAT free speech”

2. Trial by jury. What’s your problem, this is how our legal system works.

   Have you read the court transcripts before complaining, understood the charges and the defence?

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4. How is it ‘evidence’ of two tier justice though?

   The cases have a fundamental difference that rules out a direct comparison.

   Connelly pled guilty and was (rightly) given a jail sentence

   Ricky Jones was found not guilty after a Jury Trial.

   Now obviously at face value it looks odd and really I’d expected him to be found guilty and given a comparable sentence.

   But something revealed at the trial meant the Jury wasn’t convinced beyond reasonable doubt that he was inciting violence.

   And that’s the difference, it wasn’t a case of the Judge being lenient because they were left wing, or because Jones was Labour, or woke or whathave you.

   So the accusation it’s a sign of two tier justice, while an understandable knee jerk reaction doesn’t seem to hold up.

5. It’s worth noting that one of the christopher surtees-jones case. He was part of the summer 2024 people that got jailed for inciting riots on twitter. He actually went to trial and was found not guilty by a jury. It’s the PEOPLE who want free speech. And the institution who disagrees. It’s the same maze, different players. Not two tier. Unfortunate Lucy didn’t take the gamble.

6. Who exactly needs to wake up?

   A jury of his peers found him not guilty. The Tories and Reform are spinning it as two-tier justice because that suits their narrative, when it actually isn’t. If he hadn’t been arrested and charged, it certainly would be. The Tories hipocrisy knows no bounds on this subject, there they’re happy to bury how their own MPs and Leader flouted the COVID rules but cry foul any time it appears Labour isn’t acting fairly. Reform is a mess and Farage is a grifter but he chips in because it suits his narrative.

   The only thing people in the UK need to wake up to is how easily we’re being played by all of them and getting embroiled in class wars and race riots while what we should really be protesting is the continued stripping of wealth from the average person.

7. This absolutely sets a precedent now that you can say violent things with full intention to promote the serious maiming and death of others.

   Just watch something equal be said by a (and I greatly exaggerate the quotation marks here) “”Far Right”” person who disagrees with Labour and the Left and watch them get destroyed by a sentence.

8. I thought we all hated Nazis? Why would we use hate speech laws to protect them? We spent years killing as many as possible…?

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10. He was found not guilty by a jury (not Keir Starmer) after being charged and held on remand for a different offence to Lucy Connelly (who admitted her guilt). For politicians and newspapers to fail to explain the difference shows their ignorance or malevolence.

11. OP is very active in threads regarding UK and American politics, argumentative with very right wing views, also seems to speak an Asian language with strong opinions on Japanese war crimes in WWII. They are American though. Fascinating.

12. Regardless of the legality or your political leaning, what a dispicable thing to say.

13. The arguments that confuse me the most are:

    – “it’s a trial by jury”
    – “she [Lucy Connolly] pled guilty though”

    Both of those may be true, but don’t change the fact that this guy said:

    > They are disgusting Nazi fascists. **We need to cut all their throats and get rid of them all**

    While making a throat cutting gesture. THEN edited the speech before distributing it because he was “shocked at what he said” and “didn’t want to portray that to anybody” **and is a free man**.

    This in its own might not be totally shocking, but then we compare and contrast that with other cases – despite their subtle differences – it stands out even further.

    I don’t think this is an example of “two tier” justice or anything like that – but I think if we took our politically biased hats off, something isn’t right and “well she pled guilty” and “well it’s a jury trial” don’t quite justify it.

    If Farage stands up and does that tomorrow Reddit would be (quite rightly) incensed.

14. “Wake up” as in become woke?

15. I’m probably in the minority here but I think it was 100% correct for Lucy to be prosecuted & found guilty for inciting violence, but I’m struggling to see how this is different – he should have received exactly the same treatment.

    I’m all for free speech, but actions have consequences – how he wasn’t imprisoned for inciting followers to cut the throats of people who he disagrees with is wrong on every level

16. For anyone interested I saw this article posted the other day which explains what happened very well: https://thesecretbarrister.com/2025/08/16/why-did-the-jury-acquit-ricky-jones/

17. If we are going to start questioning every decision a jury of our peers comes to when we don’t like it we are finished. Justice has been served move on.

18. “WE WANT FREE SPEECH THIS IS RIDICULOUS”

    “NOT THAT FREE SPEECH”

19. Why do these thick reform plebs not understand how juries work?

20. Two Tier Kier

21. He was found not guilty of encouraging violent disorder. Violent disorder is where three or more people use or threaten unlawful violence and someone at the scene fears for their personal safety.

    Where there even any fascists at this protest, let alone ones who feared they might be in danger?

22. Amazing that most people commenting here, obviously have no idea about how the UK legal system actually works……

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