Russia opposes European troops in Ukraine under Trump-backed security guarantees – I really wonder how the Russians think that the security will be guaranteed?

https://kyivindependent.com/russia-opposes-european-troops-in-ukraine-under-trump-backed-security-guarantees-lavrov-says/

by andon_

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  1. They think it shouldn’t be guaranteed at all. But they might accept any guarantee, given that Russians will have a veto on it. I.e., if there will be no guarantee.

  2. I don’t think he has much to worry about. I’ll eat my own ass if European nations station troops in Ukraine that are actually expected to fight Russia if the guns come back out.

  3. Budapest Memorandum V2 where they just ignore what is writtent there. Any documents signed by Putin’s regime will be just fake promises.

  4. More on this subject from other reputable sources:


    – Politico (B+): [Russia wants … Russia to have veto over Western security guarantees for Ukraine](https://www.politico.eu/article/kremlin-russia-want-veto-security-guarantee-ukraine-sergey-lavrov/)
    – Kyiv Independent (B): [Security guarantees for Ukraine can’t be discussed without Russia’s participation, Lavrov claims](https://kyivindependent.com/us-uk-france-china-could-join-ukraine-security-guarantees-russias-lavrov-says/)
    – Euronews (B): [Security guarantees: Which countries could send troops to Ukraine ](https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/08/21/security-guarantees-these-are-the-european-countries-willing-to-send-troops-to-ukraine)
    – PBS (A-): [As Russia continues to wage war, NATO meets to plan Ukraine’s future defense](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/as-russia-continues-to-wage-war-nato-meets-to-plan-ukraines-future-defense)


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  5. Little green men will protect Ukraine, I promise!

  6. Why should they have any say in it whatsoever, they’re only going to invade Ukraine again when they’re good and ready.

  7. Of course they do. They don’t want peace, they want Ukraine

  8. “We would like Ukraine’s security to be guaranteed, by us, the invaders, safely within our annexed territory while we remake the USSR by force.”

  9. They want a non-binding promise like the budapest memorandum. They want Ukraine to give up its fortress cities that Ukraine still holds, to get worthless promises from the US and Europe and to let Russia recover its economy and military and then come back in a few years to finish the job.

  10. Solemn pinkie-promise over the bones of Joseph Stalin.

  11. Russias security guarantee “we promise this time , for reals this time, like swear on my babushkas life”

  12. They don’t- they want to have their cake and eat it!

  13. Yeah…. The Russians are so good at keeping to agreements 😳🙄

  14. The fox wants to be in charge of the hen house security plan.

  15. Of course they do. They can’t continue to attack indiscriminately without a threat of reprisal. Should have happened 3 years ago.

  16. Again and again Russia just bide for more time. They have no interest in peace and furthermore they have no concern with the number of their own citizens are being killed in the war. All for a bit of land

  17. When they say security it’s theirs. Against imaginary enemies.

  18. Russians still think they can come out on top of the war they started. Very brazen take.

  19. >I really wonder how the Russians think that the security will be guaranteed?

    Russian and Chinese troops will secure the peace in occupied Ukraine, of course tovarisch.

    ^(/s)

  20. IMHO, European security guarantees are essential to make a peace deal. Ukraine isn’t going to get any comfort from security guarantees which the aggressor, Russia, provides or has veto rights over. This proposal is a deal breaker.

  21. When a president can ignore a memorandum, treaty or law, there is no guarantee.

  22. We prefer Russian troops out of Ukraine, so let’s trade.

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