Ghislaine Maxwell said in her interview with the Justice Department that there is no Jeffrey Epstein client list.

“There is no list. We’ll start with that. The genesis of that story, I can actually trace for you from its absolute inception, if that is what you’re interested in,” Maxwell said.

Maxwell goes on to explain to Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche the origin of the “client list” story.

In 2009, Epstein was facing civil lawsuits. An attorney named Brad Edwards, who was working for the law firm Rothstein, Rosenfeldt & Adler, became a confidential informant for the FBI. The FBI was able to then obtain a list from one of Epstein’s former butlers, Alfredo Rodriguez.

“The truth is that Alfredo Rodriguez was deposed twice, once in July and once in August. And in the July deposition, told Brad Edwards that he had handwritten notes or a journal, whatever, in the deposition,” Maxwell said.

According to the transcript, Blanche was confused by Maxwell’s explanation of the origin of the list, asking if the list was “manufactured” or “fake.” Maxwell said that there are five people controlling the narrative of the story behind the client list, which creates the confusion.

Maxwell also said Edwards marked up a book of people who were involved, but noted that she does not remember Trump being involved.

“Brad Edwards says that he got Alfredo Rodriguez to mark up the book of 19 all the people who were involved … I don’t remember what it does with Donald Trump. I don’t – I don’t know. You’d have to look. I don’t have it,” Maxwell said.

Maxwell ended her story emphasizing again she was not aware of a client list.

“Absolutely no. There is no list. There is no – I’m not aware of any blackmail. I never heard that. I never saw it and I never imagined it,” Maxwell said.