If you can do your job from your livingroom and you do your job well then what’s the fucking point in spending hundreds of pound a month travelling to an office to do the exact same job?
It shouldn’t need to be something that employees need to ‘push for’. It’s common fucking sense.
The only good thing about the pandemic was thousands of office and call centre workers showing these micromanaging control freaks that we can do the job perfectly well from home. I would have thought there’d be a real shift in the way remote work is accepted and supported, but we still have this real dated attitude that it’s not ‘real work’ unless it’s done in a city centre office.
Im all for this. All jobs that can be done with wfh should be.
All workers required to travel to work should have fuel costs paid by the employer.
WFH is a choice for us where I work but I think it’s just so we don’t all leave for jobs that are at least hybrid working.
About 3/4 of the office commute and like everyone else before covid were asking for WFH options with the same excuses of how it wasn’t manageable. Moment covid hit everyone is WFH and everyone realised it was working without any real hit to productivity.
I’ve not been in an office since Feb 2020, it has gotten to point I’ve had to turn down job offers because they require commute to office and the pay raise is actually a loss when compared to my current wage.
If it saves employees money may as well save the employer money for say call centres by just shipping everything overseas… lower wages, no ni or pension to pay etc winner winner. Oh wait that won’t wash well well it?
If the jobs offer work from home great but to have employees pushing for it, probably had a few years cushy number due to COVID they need a wake up call. Just because it worked well for the employee 🙄
One big reason as well as being better for the environment, my health and productivity.
The list goes on.
There should be some sort of subsidy for key workers, the backbone of the country, who can’t work from home in that case. If the fuel prices are too high for the laptop class then imagine what it’s like the key workers.
Completely understandable. Even on fairly short commutes a disproportionate amount of fuel gets used due to all the stop and go traffic.
This would have a beneficial impact on CO2 emissions and other pollutants being reduced too.
If someone wants to work from home and can, let them. If someone prefers a hybrid model or to only work in the office, let them do that instead. It’s been two years and it is obvious that WFH is here to stay. It is better to treat your employees like adults and to let them do what works best for them than treating everyone the same or doing what management thinks is best for others.
Too fucking right
WFH should be standard practice for those roles where it can be done
I’m made to go in a couple of days a weak. Where I sit in an office with the heat cranked up to the max because we have the windows open to ‘help ventilation and stop Covid’. And all I do is have teams meetings because people have worked out the addition time to book / travel to meeting rooms is such a waste. It’s mental
I’m being forced into the office again a few days per week and it’s hell. Didn’t fully appreciate how much more stress commuting and that would be – I’m going in to sit in a freezing cold office where everyone works in silence anyway, I’m actually miserable about it
Honestly my main reason for WHF is I can get some fucking work done without:
* The old codgers with no social skills coming to witter on at me at my desk for 600 minutes every morning about life back in the good ole days.
* The endless requests from dazed colleagues that don’t know what they’re doing to “have a look at this for a few minutes” or “cast your eye over this document” and generally rope the whole office into vaguely helping their directionless and confused tasks.
* Numerous meaningless “initiatives” that will leech 90% of my working time for weeks on end to contribute to some bureaucratic nonsense document about increasing synergy or strategy that’ll never get read.
Saves me a few quid on train fare too.
And in other news the government kindly orders all civil servants back to the office.
Many do not need to be polluting the air, occupying crowded trains in order to work. Many departments have no direct customer-facing services so it’s a redundant and wasteful requirement.
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Should be a choice if you wfh or work from an office but every time one of these threads come up you see how much the average redditor isn’t the average person. You all seem to hate every single person except for yourself
I don’t think fuel costs should be the main reason because if costs come down they will then use that to justify everyone coming back in.
Air pollution up around 6 times the threshold the WHO considers dangerous. Can we stop making people take unnecessary car rides. Would also benefit to convert car lanes to more bike and bus lanes. Cars are the reason taking the bus to our office is slower than cycling.
If the bus was faster due to not being held up by cars then more people would use it.
Make commuting to a permanent/assigned office part of your working hours/compensation. Watch businesses embrace WFH with much more positivity where they know they can.
Less people on the roads can only be good for those who do need to travel for work with less “unnecessary” road users likely having a positive impact on traffic flow/times.
I would have hoped the last 2 years opened a lot of employers eyes, and some have. Too many however seem to be just sweeping it all under the carpet, likely from the layers of “middle management” as others have highlighted.
It’s just so very wrong that driving to work is the only option for so many people.
You’re a taxi driver or a tradesman with a tonne of tools then yeah I get it.
But going to the same office or shop or whatever every day… Public transport should be a viable option. This country man.
And this is why I’m leaving the public sector. This was raised and the response was basically “Jacob Rees-Mogg has decided you need to be in the office, and that’s the end of it.”
The problem I can see with working from home, is your job can be done from anywhere in the world.
When business cost cutting happens, outsourcing will be talked about.
wait til winter when folks have to heat their homes all day while working from home
A national telecoms company has a better workplace programme where they have spent millions to open new office spaces in fewer locations across the UK and are wanting employees to come to these hubs more often now that covid is done The higher ups in the company say that talks around the water cooler and talks in the lift are a vital part of communication and getting things done that just cant be done from working at home. They really push this angle for not wanting home workers.
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I just don’t understand it when we are better connected then ever over the net and also as a major telecoms company they are selling the idea to customers of being connected easily to everyone is amazing and is worth paying for.
I’ve said it many times, but this is yet another thing amongst the litany of cynical crap that the Tories expect of us plebs.
Costs aside, the other thing that pisses me off no end is my company plastering how they are environmentally proactive and all about sustainability.
if that was true, you wouldnt be telling staff to return en masse to the office creating more pollution during each commute.
The whole screeching “better get back to the office!” – as if it was some huge holiday camp WFH – we still worked the same hours and were overall much more productive because people were more inclined to stay on a bit later etc. It’s been unreal overall.
If they want you to commute to a job you can do equally well from your home, the least they could do is compensate you for the time and fuel/travel costs. Just saying.
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If you can do your job from your livingroom and you do your job well then what’s the fucking point in spending hundreds of pound a month travelling to an office to do the exact same job?
It shouldn’t need to be something that employees need to ‘push for’. It’s common fucking sense.
The only good thing about the pandemic was thousands of office and call centre workers showing these micromanaging control freaks that we can do the job perfectly well from home. I would have thought there’d be a real shift in the way remote work is accepted and supported, but we still have this real dated attitude that it’s not ‘real work’ unless it’s done in a city centre office.
Im all for this. All jobs that can be done with wfh should be.
All workers required to travel to work should have fuel costs paid by the employer.
WFH is a choice for us where I work but I think it’s just so we don’t all leave for jobs that are at least hybrid working.
About 3/4 of the office commute and like everyone else before covid were asking for WFH options with the same excuses of how it wasn’t manageable. Moment covid hit everyone is WFH and everyone realised it was working without any real hit to productivity.
I’ve not been in an office since Feb 2020, it has gotten to point I’ve had to turn down job offers because they require commute to office and the pay raise is actually a loss when compared to my current wage.
If it saves employees money may as well save the employer money for say call centres by just shipping everything overseas… lower wages, no ni or pension to pay etc winner winner. Oh wait that won’t wash well well it?
If the jobs offer work from home great but to have employees pushing for it, probably had a few years cushy number due to COVID they need a wake up call. Just because it worked well for the employee 🙄
One big reason as well as being better for the environment, my health and productivity.
The list goes on.
There should be some sort of subsidy for key workers, the backbone of the country, who can’t work from home in that case. If the fuel prices are too high for the laptop class then imagine what it’s like the key workers.
Completely understandable. Even on fairly short commutes a disproportionate amount of fuel gets used due to all the stop and go traffic.
This would have a beneficial impact on CO2 emissions and other pollutants being reduced too.
If someone wants to work from home and can, let them. If someone prefers a hybrid model or to only work in the office, let them do that instead. It’s been two years and it is obvious that WFH is here to stay. It is better to treat your employees like adults and to let them do what works best for them than treating everyone the same or doing what management thinks is best for others.
Too fucking right
WFH should be standard practice for those roles where it can be done
I’m made to go in a couple of days a weak. Where I sit in an office with the heat cranked up to the max because we have the windows open to ‘help ventilation and stop Covid’. And all I do is have teams meetings because people have worked out the addition time to book / travel to meeting rooms is such a waste. It’s mental
I’m being forced into the office again a few days per week and it’s hell. Didn’t fully appreciate how much more stress commuting and that would be – I’m going in to sit in a freezing cold office where everyone works in silence anyway, I’m actually miserable about it
Honestly my main reason for WHF is I can get some fucking work done without:
* The old codgers with no social skills coming to witter on at me at my desk for 600 minutes every morning about life back in the good ole days.
* The endless requests from dazed colleagues that don’t know what they’re doing to “have a look at this for a few minutes” or “cast your eye over this document” and generally rope the whole office into vaguely helping their directionless and confused tasks.
* Numerous meaningless “initiatives” that will leech 90% of my working time for weeks on end to contribute to some bureaucratic nonsense document about increasing synergy or strategy that’ll never get read.
Saves me a few quid on train fare too.
And in other news the government kindly orders all civil servants back to the office.
Many do not need to be polluting the air, occupying crowded trains in order to work. Many departments have no direct customer-facing services so it’s a redundant and wasteful requirement.
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Should be a choice if you wfh or work from an office but every time one of these threads come up you see how much the average redditor isn’t the average person. You all seem to hate every single person except for yourself
I don’t think fuel costs should be the main reason because if costs come down they will then use that to justify everyone coming back in.
Air pollution up around 6 times the threshold the WHO considers dangerous. Can we stop making people take unnecessary car rides. Would also benefit to convert car lanes to more bike and bus lanes. Cars are the reason taking the bus to our office is slower than cycling.
If the bus was faster due to not being held up by cars then more people would use it.
Make commuting to a permanent/assigned office part of your working hours/compensation. Watch businesses embrace WFH with much more positivity where they know they can.
Less people on the roads can only be good for those who do need to travel for work with less “unnecessary” road users likely having a positive impact on traffic flow/times.
I would have hoped the last 2 years opened a lot of employers eyes, and some have. Too many however seem to be just sweeping it all under the carpet, likely from the layers of “middle management” as others have highlighted.
It’s just so very wrong that driving to work is the only option for so many people.
You’re a taxi driver or a tradesman with a tonne of tools then yeah I get it.
But going to the same office or shop or whatever every day… Public transport should be a viable option. This country man.
And this is why I’m leaving the public sector. This was raised and the response was basically “Jacob Rees-Mogg has decided you need to be in the office, and that’s the end of it.”
The problem I can see with working from home, is your job can be done from anywhere in the world.
When business cost cutting happens, outsourcing will be talked about.
wait til winter when folks have to heat their homes all day while working from home
A national telecoms company has a better workplace programme where they have spent millions to open new office spaces in fewer locations across the UK and are wanting employees to come to these hubs more often now that covid is done The higher ups in the company say that talks around the water cooler and talks in the lift are a vital part of communication and getting things done that just cant be done from working at home. They really push this angle for not wanting home workers.
​
I just don’t understand it when we are better connected then ever over the net and also as a major telecoms company they are selling the idea to customers of being connected easily to everyone is amazing and is worth paying for.
I’ve said it many times, but this is yet another thing amongst the litany of cynical crap that the Tories expect of us plebs.
Costs aside, the other thing that pisses me off no end is my company plastering how they are environmentally proactive and all about sustainability.
if that was true, you wouldnt be telling staff to return en masse to the office creating more pollution during each commute.
The whole screeching “better get back to the office!” – as if it was some huge holiday camp WFH – we still worked the same hours and were overall much more productive because people were more inclined to stay on a bit later etc. It’s been unreal overall.
What’s that you say? Historical artifact Jacob Rees Mogg [on the wrong side of history, already](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/19/jacob-rees-mogg-says-civil-servants-must-return-to-the-office?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other)? Shocking!
If they want you to commute to a job you can do equally well from your home, the least they could do is compensate you for the time and fuel/travel costs. Just saying.