As a German, I am interested in how you Dutch people see yourselves?

by Doppelmoralapostel

8 comments
  1. We have a lot in common, but failed to learn what Germany did regarding Nazism.

    We have made a very AFD like party part of the government twice(-ish), let the same guy make criminal statenents, yet never took action to make sure it does not get further than that.

  2. The Netherlands is a country of merchants and marketeers, which dates from centuries back. They do what is profitable or the lowest cost.

    The Netherlands never was a liberal country. It marketed itself as such. It was progressive, if that progressivism meant profit. 

  3. We are currently a country overrun by elderly. They are everywhere, and because there are so many, they get to make the rules and use that power to grab even more money than they already have. They keep living in way too large houses so that the younger generations can’t get their own place to live. Hooray for dutch democracy.

  4. So many people are unaware of how good the Netherlands still is and their voting means a slow tearing up of that. Quite a few mayor political problems not getting solved because of that. Still being proud of being progressive but in reality getting more and more conservative, even a bit regressive.
    But for the moment still a fantastic country.
    Germany as well btw, but your bureaucracy is holding you guys back.

  5. I dont feel we search for our identity. Many of these problems are not a Dutch. Immigration is a hot topic in almost every country. Even outside of Europe. Housing is a problem far beyond The Netherlands as well. Polarization is a problem in many countries.

  6. The PVV, Geert Wilders his party has been in government for almost 20 years. It used to be frowned upon when people admitted voting for the guy, whose message in all those years did not change really: whatever problem you got, blame it on the immigrants. He was for about 16 years like that one crazy uncle in your family, everyone’s family has one, who keeps shouting, but never solved the problem. He only became a viable choice when there came an even crazier little nephew in government: Thierry Baudet, FVD. Compared to him, Geert Wilders sounds almost normal. No more shame in voting for him, even though his message did not change, same old story, blame the immigrant. But now he has a shameless following, they even made him the big star in the latest politics-gameshow. He even found an (un-)willing coalition with somewhat likeminded parties to rule the nation. To no avail, because Geert, like Trump, likes to yell on Twitter as it were professional communication, calling people names, still yelling about immigrants, even though his party warmed the parlementary pluche seats. The man is born to be on the sideline, not born to lead/rule. Now all the best PVV-players are moving to a more decent party, with still some weird ideas, but with better manners and a true “we can fix it”-mentality. JA21. We’ll see what remains at PVV, ask me, it’s a lost vote.

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