We don’t need deepfakes to compromise ourselves, we do that perfectly well the old-fashioned way, thank you very much.
I will see my identical twin in court.
Yes.
Should be an EU initiative. GDPR update or something.
Honestly it seems strange for Denmark to be advancing this at the same time as trying to ensure that the government owns all your data, encrypted or otherwise. For child safety. Of course.
Listen lads we’ve enough trouble with Denmark to be following their madcap ideas.
I don’t see any reason why not?
It would be great if we could take all
The effort and money we’re putting into shit that’s so far down the line, and focus on the shit that’s happening right now.
Yes
This could create issues for professional photography, if I take a street photograph and want to sell it, I now have to get permission from every single person who is identifiable in the image? What about weddings? If I want to use a photo of a couple on the dance floor as part of my marketing, and there’s people in the background, do I need to get all of their permissions?
On the flip side, I can see benefits. Sometimes, you see videos posted where the creator is trolling random people on the street with a drone, following them constantly. This would help with that. I’m torn on where I’d land
I’d love this to come into effect here, but we can barely get our politicians to care about housing, health, public safety or transport as it is so I’m sure for us to get any legislation like this it would have to be EU enforced 😭
“The political agreement will be translated into a bill that will make it illegal to share deepfakes and other digital impersonations of personal characteristics. A deepfake can be a very realistic representation of a person, including their appearance and voice. Parodies and satire will of course still be possible to make”
Of course, but expecting our government to do anything worthwhile is like expecting the goose to lay a golden egg
Good idea.
I wonder how this will work though. What if an AI takes your picture, changes some small detail, and presents it as a new face. What are the odds every AI generated image is like some real person somewhere in the world?
Peoples faces change all the time too. What if some company generates an AI face and a real person ages into that face?
I can see this causing all kinds of problems that big companies will be able to sidestep with never ending court battles.
They could just ban AI generated faces in advertising altogether. The odds they’ll accidentally generate a real persons face is always going to be there. There’s enough stock photos of real people out there that AI generated faces just aren’t necessary. Photography hasn’t really advanced much in the past 15 years, a picture from 15 years ago of an office person is probably still useable today.
Yes
100% Ireland should.
but also 100% Ireland wont.
To be honest it’ll be implemented so politicians won’t be targeted by deep fakes. It will just benefit us plebs as an afterthought.
Ireland will do it.. 10 years to late.. and obly when forced by the EU
So long as it’s not used as some obtuse justification to stop someone from recording in public
Good on them for trying to regulate this shit.
Thankfully, nobody wants my face. Not me or my girlfriends arse.
Does this mean that I can sue that Bush fucker doing the jump scares around town for copyright infringement if he gets me?
Kinda doesn’t work when people willingly give it up when they upload/use social media sites.
You want to use that snapchat filter or upload to instagram? It will be in the fine print that you’re agreeing to let them use your face etc for other purposes.
EVERY COUNTRY should implement this!
Should be a global standard and hopefully it is soon. I fully foresee some cheeky fuckers trying to sue people for looking like them.
No, not really.
I think the severly negitive parts of AI deepfakes can already be addressed with with existing laws on revenge porn and fraud.
We can’t even roll out a proper ID card for all personal government services without a fuck up.
This would be the stuff of nightmares to govern.
The upside is that i could get a highly paid contract role in the project for about 10 years before it failed miserably.
Can they sue people who look like them?
Can people who look alike sue each other?
Is the defense against this lawsuit proof of no cosmetic surgery? How do you prove that?
What if someone gets cosmetic surgery specifically to look like another person? Can they be sued?
How “alike” is alike? Exact match? If I make a deep fake of a famous person, and change one tiny thing about them ever so slightly, can I still be sued? What about two tiny changes? Or three?
How “different” is different? How “same” is the same? Is there some way to measure this objectively?
Would that mean if you posted a picture of somebody , that it could be a copyright infringement?
Why the feck not? What about lookalikes then selling their image, is the possible loophole I see though
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Yes
We don’t need deepfakes to compromise ourselves, we do that perfectly well the old-fashioned way, thank you very much.
I will see my identical twin in court.
Yes.
Should be an EU initiative. GDPR update or something.
Honestly it seems strange for Denmark to be advancing this at the same time as trying to ensure that the government owns all your data, encrypted or otherwise. For child safety. Of course.
Listen lads we’ve enough trouble with Denmark to be following their madcap ideas.
I don’t see any reason why not?
It would be great if we could take all
The effort and money we’re putting into shit that’s so far down the line, and focus on the shit that’s happening right now.
Yes
This could create issues for professional photography, if I take a street photograph and want to sell it, I now have to get permission from every single person who is identifiable in the image? What about weddings? If I want to use a photo of a couple on the dance floor as part of my marketing, and there’s people in the background, do I need to get all of their permissions?
On the flip side, I can see benefits. Sometimes, you see videos posted where the creator is trolling random people on the street with a drone, following them constantly. This would help with that. I’m torn on where I’d land
I’d love this to come into effect here, but we can barely get our politicians to care about housing, health, public safety or transport as it is so I’m sure for us to get any legislation like this it would have to be EU enforced 😭
“The political agreement will be translated into a bill that will make it illegal to share deepfakes and other digital impersonations of personal characteristics. A deepfake can be a very realistic representation of a person, including their appearance and voice. Parodies and satire will of course still be possible to make”
Source: [https://kum.dk/aktuelt/nyheder/bred-aftale-om-deepfakes-giver-alle-ret-til-egen-krop-og-egen-stemme](https://kum.dk/aktuelt/nyheder/bred-aftale-om-deepfakes-giver-alle-ret-til-egen-krop-og-egen-stemme)
Of course, but expecting our government to do anything worthwhile is like expecting the goose to lay a golden egg
Good idea.
I wonder how this will work though. What if an AI takes your picture, changes some small detail, and presents it as a new face. What are the odds every AI generated image is like some real person somewhere in the world?
Peoples faces change all the time too. What if some company generates an AI face and a real person ages into that face?
I can see this causing all kinds of problems that big companies will be able to sidestep with never ending court battles.
They could just ban AI generated faces in advertising altogether. The odds they’ll accidentally generate a real persons face is always going to be there. There’s enough stock photos of real people out there that AI generated faces just aren’t necessary. Photography hasn’t really advanced much in the past 15 years, a picture from 15 years ago of an office person is probably still useable today.
Yes
100% Ireland should.
but also 100% Ireland wont.
To be honest it’ll be implemented so politicians won’t be targeted by deep fakes. It will just benefit us plebs as an afterthought.
Ireland will do it.. 10 years to late.. and obly when forced by the EU
So long as it’s not used as some obtuse justification to stop someone from recording in public
Good on them for trying to regulate this shit.
Thankfully, nobody wants my face. Not me or my girlfriends arse.
Does this mean that I can sue that Bush fucker doing the jump scares around town for copyright infringement if he gets me?
Kinda doesn’t work when people willingly give it up when they upload/use social media sites.
You want to use that snapchat filter or upload to instagram? It will be in the fine print that you’re agreeing to let them use your face etc for other purposes.
EVERY COUNTRY should implement this!
Should be a global standard and hopefully it is soon. I fully foresee some cheeky fuckers trying to sue people for looking like them.
No, not really.
I think the severly negitive parts of AI deepfakes can already be addressed with with existing laws on revenge porn and fraud.
We can’t even roll out a proper ID card for all personal government services without a fuck up.
This would be the stuff of nightmares to govern.
The upside is that i could get a highly paid contract role in the project for about 10 years before it failed miserably.
Can they sue people who look like them?
Can people who look alike sue each other?
Is the defense against this lawsuit proof of no cosmetic surgery? How do you prove that?
What if someone gets cosmetic surgery specifically to look like another person? Can they be sued?
How “alike” is alike? Exact match? If I make a deep fake of a famous person, and change one tiny thing about them ever so slightly, can I still be sued? What about two tiny changes? Or three?
How “different” is different? How “same” is the same? Is there some way to measure this objectively?
Would that mean if you posted a picture of somebody , that it could be a copyright infringement?
Why the feck not? What about lookalikes then selling their image, is the possible loophole I see though
Yes.
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