Going after 4Chan may have seemed like an easy target but it’s a very different beast now than it was for the first few years after launch.
As a collective they have very deep pockets and frankly they are all up for the fight if it leads to a Streisand moment.
Still, at least the US Government is in lockstep with the U.K. on this /s
Good luck trying to impose UK law on US citizens/companies.
Seems like an easy win for 4chan here.
The government decides continuing making the country a laughing stock is better than losing face by admitting the OSA is a trainwreck and sacking Peter Kyle.
Considering their entire argument is “UK laws don’t apply in the US”, I’m not sure why they think Ofcom would take any notice of a US court judgement (which, by the same logic, doesn’t apply in the UK).
I dont think a US court would even hear this, ofcom aren’t represented in the US therefore they don’t have jurisdiction. And a court is not a venue to provide legal advice or interpretation.
The UK can’t enforce a UK law on a US entity, but it can apply its own laws. If 4chan doesnt choose to comply then the remedy is in the UK, and all that happens is it will be enforced on them.
The regulation says if you serve UK customers in the UK you have to comply with the law. 4chan can either choose to exclude the UK from its services and therefore exempt itself or the UK can bar them. Which is the next step and theres then effectively a charge to restore it. Which is legal in the UK, as it is in the US where other laws do the same thing.
Whatever happens, because it’s 4chan, this is going to be some strange chapter for the UK. That’s for sure.
If 4chan ends up saving free speach in the UK i will be bemused
I can just see a bunch of 4chan hackers getting root access into Ofcom severs and doxxing everyone who has scanned their ugly mug to fap to some Bonnie blue filth.
It’s kind of tragically inspiring that people think logic and principles and freedom are legal positions. In the UK there is only the will of parliament no matter how illogical, unprincipled or fascist.
This just shows how utterly out of touch the UK Government is.
Trying to go after 4Chan is asking for every Hacker and Shitkicker in the world to go after you and 4Chan could very easily fuck the UK Government if they are in the mode to do so.
>Ronald Coleman of the Coleman Law Firm, which is also acting for the plaintiffs 4chan and Kiwi Farms, said his clients were defending “the free speech rights of every American.”
Supplying porn to under 18s in a foreign country is freedom of speech?
Interesting take.
I think this is more ofcom flexing its muscles in requiring ISPs to force blocks against non Uk entities that refuse the OSA
I can’t believe I’m rooting for 4chan
The hero we need, but not the one we deserve
can someone explain why this would apply to US users as its only a UK thing? they could setup a UK age check or just block UK users and the issue is solved?
a word of warning though, show UK people what is on 4chan and you will probably see support for the OSA increasing. I personally think this is about bringing trump into the equation so he can punish countries on their behalf.
which is weird as the US is saying the UK cant legislate for its own people if it upsets a US company, as trump has already made clear. They will indeed try and force their fucked up version of “freedoms” onto other countries.
personally I think we all knew it would come to a head but with the sole objective of having these sites blocked in the UK.
you might want to pop offline though to see how popular these laws are before assuming everyone else supports your own specific view. personally im in the middle, I have no issue in theory being asked for age as i do for a pint (well not anymore but hey ho) or when i buy some nail scissors (joke).
but the way its implemented is a complete farce and it wont help kids either, probably make them go to a lot worse places.
Can’t wait for the inevitable youtube video titled “4chan takes on the UK government and wins”
The US courts have no jurisdiction over the UK so it means nothing.
even if you dont like 4chan we should all agree that the UK should lose this case
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Going after 4Chan may have seemed like an easy target but it’s a very different beast now than it was for the first few years after launch.
As a collective they have very deep pockets and frankly they are all up for the fight if it leads to a Streisand moment.
Still, at least the US Government is in lockstep with the U.K. on this /s
Good luck trying to impose UK law on US citizens/companies.
Seems like an easy win for 4chan here.
The government decides continuing making the country a laughing stock is better than losing face by admitting the OSA is a trainwreck and sacking Peter Kyle.
Considering their entire argument is “UK laws don’t apply in the US”, I’m not sure why they think Ofcom would take any notice of a US court judgement (which, by the same logic, doesn’t apply in the UK).
I dont think a US court would even hear this, ofcom aren’t represented in the US therefore they don’t have jurisdiction. And a court is not a venue to provide legal advice or interpretation.
The UK can’t enforce a UK law on a US entity, but it can apply its own laws. If 4chan doesnt choose to comply then the remedy is in the UK, and all that happens is it will be enforced on them.
The regulation says if you serve UK customers in the UK you have to comply with the law. 4chan can either choose to exclude the UK from its services and therefore exempt itself or the UK can bar them. Which is the next step and theres then effectively a charge to restore it. Which is legal in the UK, as it is in the US where other laws do the same thing.
Whatever happens, because it’s 4chan, this is going to be some strange chapter for the UK. That’s for sure.
If 4chan ends up saving free speach in the UK i will be bemused
I can just see a bunch of 4chan hackers getting root access into Ofcom severs and doxxing everyone who has scanned their ugly mug to fap to some Bonnie blue filth.
It’s kind of tragically inspiring that people think logic and principles and freedom are legal positions. In the UK there is only the will of parliament no matter how illogical, unprincipled or fascist.
This just shows how utterly out of touch the UK Government is.
Trying to go after 4Chan is asking for every Hacker and Shitkicker in the world to go after you and 4Chan could very easily fuck the UK Government if they are in the mode to do so.
>Ronald Coleman of the Coleman Law Firm, which is also acting for the plaintiffs 4chan and Kiwi Farms, said his clients were defending “the free speech rights of every American.”
Supplying porn to under 18s in a foreign country is freedom of speech?
Interesting take.
I think this is more ofcom flexing its muscles in requiring ISPs to force blocks against non Uk entities that refuse the OSA
I can’t believe I’m rooting for 4chan
The hero we need, but not the one we deserve
can someone explain why this would apply to US users as its only a UK thing? they could setup a UK age check or just block UK users and the issue is solved?
a word of warning though, show UK people what is on 4chan and you will probably see support for the OSA increasing. I personally think this is about bringing trump into the equation so he can punish countries on their behalf.
which is weird as the US is saying the UK cant legislate for its own people if it upsets a US company, as trump has already made clear. They will indeed try and force their fucked up version of “freedoms” onto other countries.
personally I think we all knew it would come to a head but with the sole objective of having these sites blocked in the UK.
you might want to pop offline though to see how popular these laws are before assuming everyone else supports your own specific view. personally im in the middle, I have no issue in theory being asked for age as i do for a pint (well not anymore but hey ho) or when i buy some nail scissors (joke).
but the way its implemented is a complete farce and it wont help kids either, probably make them go to a lot worse places.
Can’t wait for the inevitable youtube video titled “4chan takes on the UK government and wins”
The US courts have no jurisdiction over the UK so it means nothing.
even if you dont like 4chan we should all agree that the UK should lose this case
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