It’s one of those things that a median voter might like the sound of, but once Tory/Home office incompetence kicks in and some grizzly footage leaks, the median voter will be put off and might well decide it’s better to just grant asylum.
Good political judgement does just mean following polls, it also means predicting how they will change once you implement a policy.
Example: Before the NIC rise voters of all parties backed paying more taxes to fund NHS, but voters of all parties were against it once they announced the rise.
Personally I really don’t have an opinion. I have never knowingly met anyone who has floated across the Channel to get here. I know nothing about Rwanda. ELI5 why I should recoil?
Redditors from this subreddit will recoil
Steve the bricky from bolton could not give a fuck.
This pretty much sums up the Guardian, they haven’t got a fucking clue.
Wanna know why the conservatives keep winning elections even though they’re absolutely dreadful? Because normal people want something done about immigration, and Labour isn’t seen as being ‘tough’ on immigration. So no matter how bad the tories are, people still don’t want Labour in charge, doing nothing to prevent immigration.
You think people working in menial, low paying jobs give a fuck about half the policies the government have? They care about immigration, their own working conditions, and how much tax they have to pay. That’s about it.
There’s a reason the Sun, Daily Mail etc are Britains most read newspapers…
Reddit might be recoiling at the thought, but redditors were sure Corbyn was going to win, and the British public would rather a tory majority than a corbyn win…So let that be the end of reddits understanding of the British public.
It really is such a shocking waste of money.
Being proud of pissing away your country’s money like this is not the mark of a patriot.
Conservatives should recoil at the cost alone. “what about the economy?! Won’t somebody _please_ think of the economy!”
For a fraction of the price you could build the “Celebrity Cyclone” from “I’m a Celebrity…” but replace all the obstacles with sharp objects and grenades, then put it on Sky Box Office
You would probably turn a profit as the knuckle dragging Phil-Mitchell-Football-Factory wannabes crack one off.
I doubt it is popular and polling suggests it is not, but I also fear that it is not *unpopular enough* to spark off a sufficiently strong reaction to see it quashed before anything is implemented.
The voters who have been calling for a harsh immigration system aren’t going to suddenly kick off because they happen to find this idea goes further than they wanted.
People are paying human traffickers big money and then dying trying to make the channel crossing.
A lot of you need to get over the fact that Corbyn was shit.
Nothing is going g to be done. Tough times ahead and everyone wants to be done with immigration once and for all.
The policy is abhorrent but will be popular. The government have proposed a solution that will probably work (ignoring cost) and many average people dont like young men coming as economic migrants who get free accomodation and support, something that is seen as not been given to uk people.
I know it’s bad but I just don’t care. They’re getting their asylum just somewhere else and all the associated benefits.
Legal immigration is most welcome, mass uncontrolled economic migration is not!
I’m assuming a lot of people here are very young. People don’t mind immigration but it has to always be the right kind. You import the missing skills and experience not a cheap work force. Blair opened the flood gates in 98 and sent everyone else to university under the guise of education, education, education. But what it really did was remove more manual skilled workers and told us to import more. Labour had no long term plan for immigration and they never have so they sell young voters an ideal instead. But those ideals are never backed by numbers. People talk about the conservatives cutting nhs funding etc yet the nhs has record funding again. The NHS doesn’t need immigration and it doesn’t need more money it needs a mass culling of management and directors and brought back in line with its original mandate. I was an avid Labour voter until my 20s when I started seeing the reality of them and I havent voted for them since. The last ge with corbyn and Abbott was a farce of stupid ideas trying to buy the votes of kids with free stuff and promises of unicorns and gold.
One point not being made anywhere, is that this has nothing to do with Brexit. The EU had nothing to do with the asylum system which is from a United Nations treaty.
The main change leaving the EU has caused is that we have left the Dublin Agreement, which offered a means for us to return channel-crossers to France or other EU country of transit. We didn’t use it except for in a flurry just before leaving the agreement.
Seriously what is the obsession with multiculturalism?
Lmao this thread is a dumpster fire, absolutely shocking open racism everywhere
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He’s at least half correct.
It’s one of those things that a median voter might like the sound of, but once Tory/Home office incompetence kicks in and some grizzly footage leaks, the median voter will be put off and might well decide it’s better to just grant asylum.
Good political judgement does just mean following polls, it also means predicting how they will change once you implement a policy.
Example: Before the NIC rise voters of all parties backed paying more taxes to fund NHS, but voters of all parties were against it once they announced the rise.
Personally I really don’t have an opinion. I have never knowingly met anyone who has floated across the Channel to get here. I know nothing about Rwanda. ELI5 why I should recoil?
Redditors from this subreddit will recoil
Steve the bricky from bolton could not give a fuck.
This pretty much sums up the Guardian, they haven’t got a fucking clue.
Wanna know why the conservatives keep winning elections even though they’re absolutely dreadful? Because normal people want something done about immigration, and Labour isn’t seen as being ‘tough’ on immigration. So no matter how bad the tories are, people still don’t want Labour in charge, doing nothing to prevent immigration.
You think people working in menial, low paying jobs give a fuck about half the policies the government have? They care about immigration, their own working conditions, and how much tax they have to pay. That’s about it.
There’s a reason the Sun, Daily Mail etc are Britains most read newspapers…
Reddit might be recoiling at the thought, but redditors were sure Corbyn was going to win, and the British public would rather a tory majority than a corbyn win…So let that be the end of reddits understanding of the British public.
It really is such a shocking waste of money.
Being proud of pissing away your country’s money like this is not the mark of a patriot.
Conservatives should recoil at the cost alone. “what about the economy?! Won’t somebody _please_ think of the economy!”
For a fraction of the price you could build the “Celebrity Cyclone” from “I’m a Celebrity…” but replace all the obstacles with sharp objects and grenades, then put it on Sky Box Office
You would probably turn a profit as the knuckle dragging Phil-Mitchell-Football-Factory wannabes crack one off.
I doubt it is popular and polling suggests it is not, but I also fear that it is not *unpopular enough* to spark off a sufficiently strong reaction to see it quashed before anything is implemented.
The voters who have been calling for a harsh immigration system aren’t going to suddenly kick off because they happen to find this idea goes further than they wanted.
People are paying human traffickers big money and then dying trying to make the channel crossing.
A lot of you need to get over the fact that Corbyn was shit.
Nothing is going g to be done. Tough times ahead and everyone wants to be done with immigration once and for all.
The policy is abhorrent but will be popular. The government have proposed a solution that will probably work (ignoring cost) and many average people dont like young men coming as economic migrants who get free accomodation and support, something that is seen as not been given to uk people.
I know it’s bad but I just don’t care. They’re getting their asylum just somewhere else and all the associated benefits.
Legal immigration is most welcome, mass uncontrolled economic migration is not!
I’m assuming a lot of people here are very young. People don’t mind immigration but it has to always be the right kind. You import the missing skills and experience not a cheap work force. Blair opened the flood gates in 98 and sent everyone else to university under the guise of education, education, education. But what it really did was remove more manual skilled workers and told us to import more. Labour had no long term plan for immigration and they never have so they sell young voters an ideal instead. But those ideals are never backed by numbers. People talk about the conservatives cutting nhs funding etc yet the nhs has record funding again. The NHS doesn’t need immigration and it doesn’t need more money it needs a mass culling of management and directors and brought back in line with its original mandate. I was an avid Labour voter until my 20s when I started seeing the reality of them and I havent voted for them since. The last ge with corbyn and Abbott was a farce of stupid ideas trying to buy the votes of kids with free stuff and promises of unicorns and gold.
One point not being made anywhere, is that this has nothing to do with Brexit. The EU had nothing to do with the asylum system which is from a United Nations treaty.
The main change leaving the EU has caused is that we have left the Dublin Agreement, which offered a means for us to return channel-crossers to France or other EU country of transit. We didn’t use it except for in a flurry just before leaving the agreement.
Seriously what is the obsession with multiculturalism?
Lmao this thread is a dumpster fire, absolutely shocking open racism everywhere