Britain is ‘broken and needs radical action’ say two thirds of voters
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/britain-broken-radical-action-bombshell-poll-5HjdBhP_2/
by tylerthe-theatre
Britain is ‘broken and needs radical action’ say two thirds of voters
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/britain-broken-radical-action-bombshell-poll-5HjdBhP_2/
by tylerthe-theatre
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Radical and Starmer might be a bit of an ask really.
We need a party who can magically stop all illegal immigration and cut taxes whilst managing to have no noticeable decline in public services and making the cost of living cheaper.
The main parties will go for the managed decline route instead of looking at ideas that might upset the boomers
Radical action: Farage. Like Brexit, he will create amazing solutions for the UK /s
Except Starmer can’t do anything without everyone having a breakdown like cutting WFA or trying to reform benefits
Can’t cut taxes or increase spending without the markets imploding so we’re just sleeping walking to oblivion
People in this country want the moon on a stick. World class public services while paying little in the way of tax.
The gap betweeen the have and have nots has massively widened. The growth of social media means it’s much easier for us all to see how the system gets played but also the huge inequalities in life – student debt, housing, opportunity, public services
It is broken. I’d like to hear sensible options to repair it as well, instead of soundbites. I think almost all the problems stem back to a lack of economic growth over the past (almost) 20 years. So, we really need to hear from people with suggestions that will stimulate growth…but that’s very likely to mean tax cuts and a Truss-like budget. The alternative of no growth/decline, is the status quo, which will take us to a dark place.
It’s not just Britain that is broken, it’s an entire system that is declining, but no one want to see it!
Problem is this has happened before, governments didn’t listen and we voted the same way again and again – it’s almost as responding to a poll is about all we can manage before apathy sets in. Until something drastic happens, nothing is going to change.
Ultimately, I think this is where Starmer is going wrong.
He’s on the record as basically saying that he doesn’t think the system is broken, and we can improve things through lots of little tweaks. When 2/3 of people think that we need radical reform, tweaking around the edges is always going to be considered disappointing.
I’m excited for potential NI on rent. That will definitely not just be immediately passed on to the renters.
I just love having another reason for my rent to go even higher than it already is.
Id rather just be taxed directly for renting at this point, at least it would be transparent and consistent
So, let’s vote Reform and all the people who got us into this massive turd dump in the first place.
Getting kinda sick of certain individuals who stand to gain a lot from “radical action” tell us that we need “radical action”.
This is the same population that couldn’t accept the winter fuel allowance being means tested.
People want radical change as long as it doesn’t effect themselves.
Members of Parliament can’t do anything radical anymore. The markets are far too sensitive.
Liz Truss tried something ~~radical~~ different, and then the market panicked and the pound fell. She was then outlasted by a lettuce. No matter who we elect no one is going to risk being the next Truss.
But the radical action will likely highlight the division that already exists as different groups want different things and refuse to compromise. For example, I want tougher reform on immigration but some people think that means sinking boats in the Channel and keeping immigrants in shanty towns; I would never back those policies. The only thing that crosses the divide is that we all agree the UK has stagnated and needs to change.
Working to rejoin the EU would probably be a good first step.
People really will swallow any old shit they’re fed by mainstream and social media won’t they
You guys are going to vote in bloody Nigel aren’t you? Geez.
Democracy is by the people, for the people, of the people. But what of the people are stupid?
Let’s break down dramatic action:
1.There is a massive welfare bill. Do you want to cut down on welfare benefits? Labour backbenchers will be properly outraged and we have seen it before.
2.Get rid of the pension triple lock. Reform and conservatives supported by all the pensioners who have nothing else to do with their day will be outside Downing Street clamouring for Starmer and Reeves’s heads.
3. Deport all immigrants. Yeah right. NHS will collapse. Global businesses in the UK will move their highly technical jobs out of the UK. What will the British STEM graduates do? Ecosystem is not created overnight
4. Get rid of the 100k cliff. Yeah and who is going to fund it? You help the people making more than 80k a year and watch people making below that cry about how unfair it is.
5. Reduce VAT registration limit. Small businesses will be hit with a massive cost out of the blue.
6. Increase VAT registration limit to help businesses expand their business. That might work but again that does not incentivise businesses to expand indefinitely.
7. Join back the EU. You won’t get the same deal.
8. Deport all illegal immigrants. Right. Who is going to pay for it? What is the cost of doing it?
Giving people too much of a say without making them individually responsible for their actions is how democracy will break Western society. Some sections of the British people clamoured for Brexit and now everyone, even the ones who did not vote for it and their future generations are going to pay for it.
Media publications need to stop doing these polls. They are stupid. They don’t help anybody; if anything it detracts from people who can do some change from actually doing it.
And this sub Reddit does not help either. Get a job for God’s sake.
Maybe we need to go back to a time where the ruling party gets more than 20% of the national vote?
Childcare and ‘get women back to work’ I hate this statement. How about let women raise their children! Britain has been intentionally broken, to break the people! It’s all by design. Make us hate each other rather than address actual issues like the cost of living! Everyday I am more convinced that the UK isn’t run by the actual government.
We just want hope decent wages and a way to progress in life that’s all we’re sick. A big corporate is ripping us off constantly left right and centre with no recourse against them.
The thing that’s broken is politicians all rushing to be more reactive and short term driven than the next.
It’s always been the same, the left and right fight and the rich get richer.
Now more than ever.
No change other than massive change will end that.
They’re all still petrified of Murdoch.
It doesn’t matter who’s in power, policies etc etc.
I hear about how bad the country is, online you’d think we were at war, you go outside and it’s anything but that, yet people are still looking for someone to blame, look no further than they paymasters above MPs.
I want radical action and I think it’s broken, but I’m diametrically opposed to the flag shaggers who also think it’s broken and want radical action.
No Britain is not broken we are a normal mature democracy
They need to fix three main things tbh, the economy, immigration and the stupid online safety act.
We do need radical action.
Just not the kind of radical action being suggested by Farage or his flag shaggers.
You’d get a similar result if you asked the same question in most Western countries.
The fixes for the UK are relatively straightforward. Actually doing it with no political will is the problem. Ideology has completely overridden pragmatism in politics, in general.
The first three fixes are rejoining the single market, introducing a national ID scheme with linked social security number and population register and fixing the processing of asylum claims and removing the 30% without a valid application.
It’s kinda funny, Britain is as economically powerful as it has ever been, wages highest they’ve ever been, quality of life as high as it’s ever been, life expectancy as long as it’s ever been.
Yet the people in Britain can see none of it. Are we truly so blind? What more could we be seeing that we are not?
**Some parts of the voterbase:** Improve wages, bring down rents and improve the standard of living
**Other parts of the voterbase:** Deport all ethnics, Invade France, shag flags, stop trans people existing, become America 2.0
Deporting the boriswave would be a good start. Would solve native unemployment as well.
The same voters, that keep voting in the people that have broken it😂 Now, Farage is highest in the polls, the person that would do the most damage. People are so easily influenced, blaming everything on asylum seekers, not the bankers, that took all our money, or the big corporations, that avoid paying taxes.
I saw a comment in a thread about a ‘what if’ Hillary would have won, where it was said we need boring, competent, safe politicians.
That definitely applies here. Three word soundbites don’t fix fuck all, but it’s what people keep voting for.
Yeah but they don’t agree on what’s broken about it or what needs to be done.
Electoral Reform would fix soooooooo much. The death of FPtP would at the very least make it harder for successive governments to ignore huge chunks of the population, as it has done to date.
Honestly I think most of the world is broken at the moment. If an angel appeared with a scroll with seven seals I wouldn’t be surprised
Controversial opinion: it’s no worse than it was a year ago except possibly in terms of second-order impacts from international events (Russia, America, Gaza war) that we have no control over.
People are angry(er), yes, but they’re being fed especially over summer a constant stream of “you should be OUTRAGED about this” stories, none of which have been *actually* particularly shocking or scandalous in the scheme of things. We’ve had no horrific murder case, no mass killing terrorist attack, no bombs, iirc no big reveal about once-beloved British celebrity. I don’t buy it.
Maybe you shouldn’t have voted for regressive isolationist Tory policies since 1979 then?
Britain needs drastic action.
Literally, every voter from right to left
Jesus christ no! Not like that!
Just you wait, my pretties.
Left wing: how about better wages?
Government: HA! You should be so lucky. 😆
Right: How about some immigration reforms
Government: F*CK NO! 😜
Left and Right: You work for US!
Government: don’t be ridiculous. Oh, wait, THE U.S?
The government: Cut everything, but build a statue of someone the public hates on their pennies and then call them all horrid for being angry about it.
We need to find a way of convincing future MPs that treason doesn’t pay and comes with very severe, very drawn out, humiliating and painful consequences.
“yes, we want MORE racism and transphobia!” Is unfortunately what a decent majority of those people will think
Really surprising, cos normally people say everything’s fine and have no complaints.
Then when the government proposes radical action everyone cries about it.
Two thirds of voters didn’t say that. Two thirds of voters weren’t even asked
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