Has anyone started cutting yet? It’s giving a great weekend.
Oh I see it now, the opposition to this ban are in the pocket of the major turf cutters like Harte’s. Makes more sense now.
It’s funny how the whole proposal has been thrown up in there. A subset of people make money from the sale of turf but they have successfully made everyone believe that this is a ban on the burning of turf.
There is nothing stopping people from cutting and burning their own turf or giving turf to family or neighbours. They are just trying to stop people who make a handsome profit from selling turf.
And I’m no fan of Eamon Ryan or the Greens or any politician tbh! But this is annoying
Ryan came out the big man making a claim he was banning sale of turf.
Leo said it wasn’t going to happen.
Then the two of them decided to come up with something that allows both sides to claim they won.
Ryan is a clown and everyone in rural Ireland rightly hates the greens.
People always claim rural people are damaging to the environment, yet it’s rural people who have loads of flowers planted, loads of bees and birds around, bird feeders, lots of hedgerows and trees.
The people in towns and cities are the ones in concrete jungles with not a shred of biodiversity around them.
Always the stick, never the carrot
Two closed turf power station lying idle , because this as and his party Green fascist plans ,we are stuffering because of this clown ….he refused gas storage plans ….now we are in a fuel. Crises….yey approves data centers .
Wherever people stand on the argument it’s hard not to see shades of the Irish Water debacle in this, decrees from on high met with mass disobedience around the country. Irish water was as much a backlash against the bank bailouts as anything else, having come through a crisis of similar magnitude in Covid there is a risk of history repeating itself.
Fitzmaurice arguing about fuel poverty causing deaths when selling fuel is his business just feels wrong.
Everything that comes out of that man’s mouth is ridiculous. He’s making the Greens look foolish. When he came out with the idea of a village having a car pool with a rota, and people cycling in from the countryside to use it, I just lost the little respect I had for the man. He lives in a fantasy land
The whole turf ban is so tone deaf at a time when energy prices and the cost of living are insane, he needs to crawl back in his cave
I’ll stop burning turf if the government installs a heat pump for me, fair deal.
Cutting turf in ireland is analogous to the cutting down the amazon rainforest in brazil. It is the most unique ecosystem in ireland and has a lot of unique biodiversity and we have some of the last semi-pristine areas of it in europe. It may not be as glamorous and eye catching but it is similarly valuable in terms of carbon sequestration. It may be less in terms of biodiversity but it has many species. It is really sad that we are destroying this unique piece of irelands natural heritage that is very delicate and takes thousands of years to recover.
Can you imagine if Ireland still had a good area of old beautiful virgin natural oak forests left and people had been cutting them down for years for firewood, slowly whittling them away until we had only a small area left. Cutting down hundreds of year old grand old trees for firewood. I think it would be perfectly acceptable to say that you cannot cut them down anymore. It is just not acceptable or sustainable to do so even if it had been done for many years. And to think that cutting bog is worse than this because unlike a tree which many take a few hundred years to grow to maturity, bog would take thousands of years to recover to the level it was at.
It really deeply saddens me the lack of care and value many people place in the unique habitat that we have in ireland in the bogs, and the people would advocate for continuing to destroy it. Would you be the same if it was ancient native woodland, I think not. I hope this practice of destruction of this native habitat is stopped sooner rather than later.
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Has anyone started cutting yet? It’s giving a great weekend.
Oh I see it now, the opposition to this ban are in the pocket of the major turf cutters like Harte’s. Makes more sense now.
It’s funny how the whole proposal has been thrown up in there. A subset of people make money from the sale of turf but they have successfully made everyone believe that this is a ban on the burning of turf.
There is nothing stopping people from cutting and burning their own turf or giving turf to family or neighbours. They are just trying to stop people who make a handsome profit from selling turf.
And I’m no fan of Eamon Ryan or the Greens or any politician tbh! But this is annoying
Ryan came out the big man making a claim he was banning sale of turf.
Leo said it wasn’t going to happen.
Then the two of them decided to come up with something that allows both sides to claim they won.
Ryan is a clown and everyone in rural Ireland rightly hates the greens.
People always claim rural people are damaging to the environment, yet it’s rural people who have loads of flowers planted, loads of bees and birds around, bird feeders, lots of hedgerows and trees.
The people in towns and cities are the ones in concrete jungles with not a shred of biodiversity around them.
Always the stick, never the carrot
Two closed turf power station lying idle , because this as and his party Green fascist plans ,we are stuffering because of this clown ….he refused gas storage plans ….now we are in a fuel. Crises….yey approves data centers .
Wherever people stand on the argument it’s hard not to see shades of the Irish Water debacle in this, decrees from on high met with mass disobedience around the country. Irish water was as much a backlash against the bank bailouts as anything else, having come through a crisis of similar magnitude in Covid there is a risk of history repeating itself.
Fitzmaurice arguing about fuel poverty causing deaths when selling fuel is his business just feels wrong.
Everything that comes out of that man’s mouth is ridiculous. He’s making the Greens look foolish. When he came out with the idea of a village having a car pool with a rota, and people cycling in from the countryside to use it, I just lost the little respect I had for the man. He lives in a fantasy land
The whole turf ban is so tone deaf at a time when energy prices and the cost of living are insane, he needs to crawl back in his cave
I’ll stop burning turf if the government installs a heat pump for me, fair deal.
Cutting turf in ireland is analogous to the cutting down the amazon rainforest in brazil. It is the most unique ecosystem in ireland and has a lot of unique biodiversity and we have some of the last semi-pristine areas of it in europe. It may not be as glamorous and eye catching but it is similarly valuable in terms of carbon sequestration. It may be less in terms of biodiversity but it has many species. It is really sad that we are destroying this unique piece of irelands natural heritage that is very delicate and takes thousands of years to recover.
Can you imagine if Ireland still had a good area of old beautiful virgin natural oak forests left and people had been cutting them down for years for firewood, slowly whittling them away until we had only a small area left. Cutting down hundreds of year old grand old trees for firewood. I think it would be perfectly acceptable to say that you cannot cut them down anymore. It is just not acceptable or sustainable to do so even if it had been done for many years. And to think that cutting bog is worse than this because unlike a tree which many take a few hundred years to grow to maturity, bog would take thousands of years to recover to the level it was at.
It really deeply saddens me the lack of care and value many people place in the unique habitat that we have in ireland in the bogs, and the people would advocate for continuing to destroy it. Would you be the same if it was ancient native woodland, I think not. I hope this practice of destruction of this native habitat is stopped sooner rather than later.
Why do people care about turf so much?